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  1. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Unfortunately, the site suspended the "report alterations" feature.
  2. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Joe, This disc is running unopposed for that award. As a side note, I'm not too crazy about the picture quality on any of their releases of "The Waltons" or "Dallas" either, but at least THOSE shows appear to be unedited. Warner could have gone back to the 35mm negatives of these shows...
  3. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    What could make them think that the "uncut" versions ran under 22 minutes? Did they think the show was in first-run syndication from the start? Any TV reference book can tell you that was not the case. A glance of the running times of any network sitcom from the 1982-1983 season would have shown...
  4. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    I'm skeptical of the studio's response to this issue. I've been spoon-fed so many unconvincing excuses in this regard that it's natural for me to think that way. Anyone working on this release should have known: A) Seasons 1 and 2 aired on NBC from January 1983 to May 1984. It is not until...
  5. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Okay so they aren't evil. But they still dropped the ball and dropped it HARD on the feet of every Mama's Family fan on the planet. They have the ability to pick it up and make amends. Will they?
  6. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    It ultimately doesn't matter who has the responsibility, because whoever it is failed miserably. There's a furry little alien who wouldn't agree with that statement.
  7. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    They did re-do Kiss Me, Kate and promised to redo some of the Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes discs.
  8. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Well I don't buy the idea that Hamilton "can't" release the uncut episodes to the successor-in-interest to the contracted party (WB as successor-in-interest to Lorimar-Telepictures). The two parties need to work out an agreement no matter what, and whoever is to blame, they could have saved...
  9. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Perhaps so. Did they even try to negotiate a deal with John Hamilton? No. Did John Hamilton contact Warner Bros. saying he had the network-length copies? No. Can they do it and offer replacements for those who ask for them? Yes, and if they expect me to patronize their products in the...
  10. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    I agree 100% and stand by my statement that Warner could have made a deal for the DVDs with John Hamilton at any time.
  11. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    It turns out John Hamilton, son of the late Joe Hamilton, owns the rights. Read on and follow the link. http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6499
  12. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Great article, Jason. I just worry that our plea may fall on deaf ears. Of course, a tiny Canadian company can get another show from the same network and era right in regards to uncut episodes ("Gimme a Break"), but the largest entertainment conglomerate in the world can't? Perhaps maybe...
  13. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    They accept it because they do not know that it is, in fact, cut. Why should they know when it is S.O.P. to cut all shows for syndication, with the uncut versions only available to archives and those smart enough to tape it in the original run (or, in the case of filmed shows, nab an uncut 16mm...
  14. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Or they could just slap a "syndicated versions" notice in 4 point print on the back. After, Lion's Gate got away with it on "ALF." Season 1 is defective, and like any defective disc it must be fixed. To not screw up further releases is a start. Warner must recall, repress, and repent...
  15. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Gord, I appreciate you going out to find the answers, but I suspect that they may of course be covering their asses. They could have acquired the rights at any time. They just didn't feel like it.
  16. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    This thread seems to have died down (people must have used up their outrage on The Little Mermaid and Grease, which are badly remixed but not missing footage), but all I can say at this point is: Keep those letters and phone calls up. It's the only chance of changing this unacceptable...
  17. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Allison, Warner apparently doesn't consider it part of the series because it never aired in the syndication package as three episodes, as it would have.
  18. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    If they did it to The Cosby Show (which, in that case, WAS the fault of the supplier), then don't think for a second they wouldn't do it to any other show that ever aired. I still haven't bought a single solitary disc from Lion's Gate after the "ALF" debacle, where both supplier and...
  19. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    I'd have it arrested for breaking and entering.
  20. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    I see no reason why JHP (which I assume now only produces Carol Burnett Show reunions and administers copyrights for Mama's Family) wouldn't want to supply network tapes. They also own the 1982 "Eunice" special, which was never added to the syndication package of Mama's Family for reasons I...
  21. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Personally, I think WB should not have released it at all if they were not going to at least try to present it uncut.
  22. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Jason, The Wikipedia entry means that Lorimar was not involved in the production of the NBC episodes (and I was the one who put it there). They got US syndication of all 130 shows, but all episode copyrights (per the Library of Congress Telnet Site) appear to be in the name of Joe Hamilton...
  23. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    I imagine the cutting would have been done by Lorimar-Telepictures as soon as a set of unedited dubs were delivered to them by Joe Hamilton Productions. Syndication cutting tends to be unique to this country. Who owns the TV distribution rights outside the US? Anyway, if you don't want to...
  24. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6470 Warner's official excuse. Time for the pitchforks and torches.
  25. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Also add something about the butchering in the title if you could, pretty please.
  26. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    If the past is any indication, they won't. They didn't release a non-cropped season 1 of Kung Fu. But it doesn't hurt to ask them.
  27. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Gord, I must commend you for this one. As far as I can recall, the only confirmed edit on a TV DVD from Warner is one episode of The Flintstones, and since the Hanna-Barbera library has gone from Screen Gems/Columbia to Taft to Worldvision to Turner to WB, I can see how that would have...
  28. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Pinto A more extreme example of the same principle.
  29. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    Darn, and I'd had the torches and pitchforks all ready when I realized you weren't serious! :D
  30. MatthewA

    "Mama's Family" ratings on i Network boad well for DVD releases!

    It is possible, too, that the uncut versions are only on analog tape and they didn't want to pay for the transfer to a new digital tape master.
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