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  1. Kevin Grey

    ***Official THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Discussion Thread (including THE PASSION RECUT)

    I have no doubt that Mel will act again but I think it will be a while. This strikes me as one of those movies like Titanic that gets so much attention that its hard for the people associated with it to move on to a new project without outrageous expectations. After all of the filming and the...
  2. Kevin Grey

    ***Official THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Discussion Thread (including THE PASSION RECUT)

    This whole argument has made me strenuously against the concept of the NC-17 as it currently stands. I don't think there should be any rating that expressly forbids children from seeing a movie if their parent wants them to view it. Consider Requiem for a Dream. Its unrated cut certainly...
  3. Kevin Grey

    ***Official THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Discussion Thread (including THE PASSION RECUT)

    People who condemn the violence in Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill and any other action or horror film typically do it because they find it gratituous. They do not enjoy violence soley for the sake of entertainment. As has been stated numerous times in this thread, the violence in movies like...
  4. Kevin Grey

    ***Official THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Discussion Thread (including THE PASSION RECUT)

    Yeah, I expect the DVD to be very similar to the Schindler's DVD. Perhaps a bit of behind the scenes work (maybe that documentary thats been showing on PAX) but they will likely want to avoid anything that changes the focus from the film itself to the filmmakers. I certainly wouldn't expect any...
  5. Kevin Grey

    ***Official THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Discussion Thread (including THE PASSION RECUT)

    Chuck, I'm not following. Of course, neither Dogman nor Tempation deserved an NC-17. The rating was irrelevant, they didn't like the content. The protesting was never, ever about the violence in either of these films. In fact I can't remember the last film that was heavily protested due to...
  6. Kevin Grey

    ***Official THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Discussion Thread (including THE PASSION RECUT)

    The only people I see complaining about the ratings these days are film critics and film lovers, not the general populace. I can't recall the last movie that received widespread public controversy over its rating. At least not since Temple of Doom and Gremlins sparked the PG-13. There was...
  7. Kevin Grey

    ***Official THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Discussion Thread (including THE PASSION RECUT)

    And does Seth also complain about Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan? I know he mentioned them but unless he considers their ratings unjust then it isn't fair to single out The Passion. As to the same people protesting TLToC and Dogma being the same people viewing the Passion- you're...
  8. Kevin Grey

    ***Official THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Discussion Thread (including THE PASSION RECUT)

    Seth, I fail to see how this film is getting a pass. Its rated R. Maybe it should be NC-17 but as others have pointed out its hardly the first film to squeak by with an R due to subject matter/power of director. Most of the media focus has been focused on the brutality of it and its...
  9. Kevin Grey

    ***Official THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Discussion Thread (including THE PASSION RECUT)

    I think that quote A.O. Scott shows a common misconception about this film- that since its religious, it should be uplifting. Uplifting has been done and many of those movies have already been mentioned in this thread. That is not what Gibson wanted, however. Most religious films do focus on...
  10. Kevin Grey

    ***Official THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Discussion Thread (including THE PASSION RECUT)

    But wouldn't a 90 minute Normandy movie be just as valid? The Longest Day is pretty much just that (only longer and far less violent) and its a classic. Now 90 minutes of Normandy filmed like the first 20 minutes might be too much for an audiences to handle but that doesn't mean its not a...
  11. Kevin Grey

    ***Official THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Discussion Thread (including THE PASSION RECUT)

    Very true. There really isn't any story or plot here, at least in the conventional sense.
  12. Kevin Grey

    ***Official THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Discussion Thread (including THE PASSION RECUT)

    But that does seem to be Gibson's intention for the film: for people to have some understanding of the depth of his sacrifice by portraying the excruciating pain he went through. The violence seems to clearly be linked to the focus even though it will likely make most extremely uncomfortable...
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