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  1. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    I didn't express myself well. What I meant was, how can an honest plan along these lines be differentiated from a scam? I'm not saying it was a scam, but we have no way of knowing. Anyone can do this kind of thing and then claim, "Hey, I INTENDED to restore a TV series (or whatever), I just...
  2. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    How is it not a scam? Can I announce I'm going to restore some old TV series and collect the money and never do anything? How can he get away with this?
  3. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    Gary16 is correct about O&H's ratings. In the '50s and '60s, the trade paper Variety would report on national ratings, and also provide city-by-city ratings. In some cities, ABC had far and away the most shows in the Top 20. Nationally, it didn't do well, solely because ABC only had a...
  4. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    As I always point out: O&H began on TV in 1952, which is 65 years ago. In 1952, "65 years ago" was 1887. Imagine how many people in 1952 were clamoring for the mediocre popular culture of 1887, and you'll get an idea of how many people today have an interest in the "adventures" of O&H. It...
  5. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    I'm wondering if you hate the "line of reasoning" because it tells you something you'd rather not believe. It seems like a reasonable line of reasoning to me, even though I don't like it any better than you do.
  6. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    We'll never do better than Mill Creek. It's more likely than not that Nelson's project is more Up the Creek. "Ozzie and Harriet" premiered on television 64 years ago. The median age for an American is 37 years. So the show is from a generation before the average American was even born. Do...
  7. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    I've watched several episodes on YouTube. If you want "moron" disattached from the name of Ozzie Nelson, you'll have to come up with a different reason.
  8. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    I assumed jimmyjet was of my generation (i.e., old) because I don't know many "kids" who are interested in "Leave It to Beaver" and "Ozzie and Harriet." ("Many"? I don't know ANY!) How old are you, jimmy? Any "kid" who likes the old shows is ok in my book.
  9. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    Since impressions are so important to you, do you care about the impression you're making on me? I know -- for a fact -- that you're a very intelligent and discriminating person, and I'm somewhat shocked that you're taking this rather shallow view of things.
  10. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    Now tell me how I'm to be responsible for how others see or interpret what I say? I've seen time and time again that on the Internet, sarcasm (for instance) isn't understood, and the person who's kidding is read as being deadly serious. Maybe we should all start giving each other the benefit...
  11. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    OMG, this is so unfair it's mindboggling. It's a flat statement: "Give me one example ..." If you READ it as angry or controntational, I can't help that. And since you brought it up ------------ I'm still waiting. The things that were named weren't exactly calculated to have people fall out...
  12. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    Since criticism was invented (probably by the ancient Greeks), it was acknowledged that what the critic was saying was an opinion, not a fact, without the necessity of him stating it every time he wrote. A critic writing on Shakespeare might say, "Hamlet is a great play," and it's understood...
  13. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    Back in 1952, the television critic for the New York Times hated most of the new sitcoms that premiered that year: "My Little Margie", "Our Miss Brooks", "I Married Joan", etc. He had this to say about "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet": "A bright new hit has come to television. The...
  14. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    Every source I checked said the only reason it got passable ratings during its last eight or so years is due to the number of teenage girls who watched it to see Ricky. I'm sorry, but this show did not get renewed by ABC as long as it did because so many people thought it was funny, or even...
  15. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    Just because someone says something here doesn't mean it's true. I don't know if O&H is all P.D. or not. I'm only saying that just because some self-proclaimed expert here says something, that doesn't mean it's true, and that goes for me, too. After all, this same person confidently said that...
  16. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    Of course it's in the eye of the beholder. What we like and dislike says something about who we are, too. I know why people would like O&H and not, for instance, "All in the Family." You don't have to be a genius to figure that out. I like the O&H type of shows. I love "Father Knows Best"...
  17. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    I don't think it's true that O&H wasn't put into syndication until over a decade after going off the air, which would be after 1976. I was looking through a Los Angeles TV Guide from 1968 yesterday, and O&H was on daily there, which I assume means it was syndicated. The real problem with O&H...
  18. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    According to the online sources I checked, Season 1 and 2 of "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet" both had 39 episodes. However, this series was filmed very much out of broadcast order, and it's possible 40 episodes were actually filmed each season, so maybe two of the "80" mentioned above...
  19. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    Yeah, so what's the story on THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES? Don't leave us hanging. Now I have a compulsion to comment on: "Going back to the elements for a show that lasted 14 or 15 seasons and had something like 39 episodes for most seasons ..." The number of seasons it lasted isn't a mystery...
  20. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    I'll give you all a gift. Usually, when I say something, the opposite happens, so here goes: I honestly feel, and fearlessly predict, that OZZIE AND HARRIET will never be released on DVD, at all. At best, there may be one season, but sales will be so low, there will never be another. Facing...
  21. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    I don't follow this. Folgers coffee started in 1872! I can't ever think of Folgers coffee without remembering that one of the heirs to the Folgers fortune, Abigail Folger, was one of the five people killed by the Manson followers at the Polanski/Tate house on that horrible night in August of...
  22. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    I heard after he became a rock 'n' roll star, Ricky wanted to leave the series after each season. And every time, Ozzie would tell ABC, which promptly said, "It's been nice working with you." So Ricky agreed to stay on. In other words, most of this series' record for longevity is due to...
  23. Joe Lugoff

    Ozzie & Harriet

    For those who want an O&H fix while we're waiting, all of these episodes are available to watch on archive.org. Some of them have the original commercials in them. ------1952------ 10-3 The Rivals 10-17 The Pills 10-24 The Fall Guy 10-31 Halloween Party 11-7 Riviera Ballet 11-14 David the Baby...
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