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  1. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    5:3 = 15:9 so you're right, our 16x9 is even a tad wider. BTW, something else to consider that often gets forgotten: When the aspect ratio was being chosen for HD (regardless of who's system), not only were considerations of "a good fit" for academy aspect ratio programs, 1.85:1 & 2.35:1...
  2. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    Oh...just rain on my constant-height/variable-width parade why don't you... :D And I suppose *your* suggestion was issue-free? ;) In all fairness, I'm not expecting the studios to adopt my solution...and if it were rather than *any* horizontal resolution being allowed it could even...
  3. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    Oh...if I got that aspect ratio of Saw II wrong my appologies...if it really is just 1.85:1 then there is NO ISSUE with open-matting to 1.78:1. Cropping should not be tolerated because it would shave off a bit of visible L/R info...but open-matting to such a small degree should not affect...
  4. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    *edit* Travis, it's not a 1.85:1 movie. It's more like 2.35 or 2.4:1 OAR.
  5. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    Agreed. It doesn't seem like a big deal to most people right now, but in 5-10 years when affordable 4K displays are for sale and/or 2.35:1 constant-height projection becomes more commonplace in high-end home-theater applications, it will become much more obvious that an opportuntity was...
  6. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    That's right...but it only affects displays that have "phosphers that glow" like Plasma and CRT displays. LCD, DLP, LCOS, and SXRD chip-based displays have no burn-in issues at all since there are no glowing phosphers to wear out unevenly. It's one reason that those other technologies are...
  7. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    Dee, I think that some plasmas have done just that...I remember seeing something somewhere that used the same color and contrast of whatever was in the picture to fill-in-the-masking areas. Personally, it's one of the reason why I love LCD/SXRD/DLP because burn-in is an issue that's such a...
  8. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    Yes, that's why Toshiba used to use light-gray bars that had a reasonable "average" phospher use to side-box 4x3 stuff on their CRT RP sets. Agree with Dee that mechanical masking is THE way to go with any set where burn-in is an issue and/or absolute black level cannot be acheived to make...
  9. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    Leo, very interesting. For 'multi-aspect-ratio' programme material I think that constant width is the best way if you at least have a 16x9 screen to start if your goal is to replicate the *effect* that wider was intended to be more dramatic. Of course, this means that all 1.85 and...
  10. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    It's understandable to feel that way. However a "monitor" is not the reference point for Home-Theater for many reasons...the one key weakness being that the "impact" and scale of the image can't generate a theatrical-experience unless one moves up quite close to the screen (closer than most...
  11. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    That's entirely untrue. 2.35:1 works very well in home-theaters, even when "compromised" by reducing the height of the image in a constant-width 16x9 environment. Mechanical masking can remedy the black bars for serious viewers to produce stunning results. And do keep in mind that as HT...
  12. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    :laugh: Again...I'm only talking about *director* approved *added* picture. Wait a minute, What am I saying? I've been seduced by the dark side! Help me O-B-Wan...you're my only hope... And I *used* to have a six-pack. Then I got too comfortable in my relationship and let the...
  13. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    Dee, many "special effects" movies like T2 and Titanic "hard matted" the special effects sequences but not the live-action...so an "open matte" 4x3 or 16x9 version would involve some scenes that are adding picture to the top/bottom and some scenes that are cropping the L/R (the special...
  14. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    Got it. I'm also of like-mind on this. Don't *crop* hard-matte 1.85 films on the L/R to fill the 1.78:1 screen...but I have no problem with slightly opening the matte for soft-matte 1.85:1 movies to remove the small black bars--image composition, as you say, is in no-way ill-affected. I...
  15. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    Hey Dee, what exactly do you mean when you say "redone for 16x9"? Do you mean the film-tape transfer was "opened up" for 16x9?
  16. DaViD Boulet

    OAR is again in danger for HiDef

    Well, early on DVD was aimed that the videophile movie collector who cared about OAR and we *still* got some MAR discs mixed in with the OAR ones. :D So I don't think that Juan's concerns should be totally dismissed. Juan...and GREAT digrams and examples! I'm sure that the issue...
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