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Paul - You make some pretty good points. One thing, though... a blind test with, say, 12 people, will be MUCH more uniform as to what is "best" than 12 people staring at the speakers. The most fun in a blind test is when Mr. "My speakers are the best" picks another brand than his own, we know...

Robb ... Working as a contractor for SVS ... CONGRATS !!! ... :)

Wow ... So THIS is what happens when one goes to bed at 11 ... Peter Marcks, The Hsu forum has become a MUCH better place since you showed up.... :) ... And yes, the VTF-3.2 stacks up VERY well against SVS ... In fact, it actually WON the DBT with a 25-31 pc+ in our original shootout...

Paul ... The treatment of SVS fans on the Hsu forum is "off the charts" worse than what happens with Hsu guys here ... Peter Marcks has helped in this in the past couple of months ... but some of the things said about Ed Mullen there were just plain horrible. Hopefully Peter can keep...

Dave ... I have not seen anyone complaining about your posts ... am I missing something ? I WOULD recommend AlanZ see someone on a professional basis... :D

AXU ... At 20 Hz, It would require one VTF-3 Mark II to match the clean output of one PB1-ISD, and the VTF-3 has a strong, usable output to 16 Hz. Add into that the no-cost maple option for a $699 subwoofer ($100 more than the PB1-ISD) AND variable tuning, and it is a tough choice.

WayneO ... Several times on AVS, when asked about both Hsu and SVS subwoofers ... MY typical response has been: "Whichever you get, you will not possibly believe that other company's subwoofer could POSSIBLY be this good" ... They are both fine companies, with little competition (PSB provides...

Curtis ... Yep, You had what I call a "Harlem Globetrotters" test. We KNEW the winner before the game began ... :D Trust me, you are not the ONLY one who has done this. Stereophile dis-avowed blind testing YEARS ago. It was costing them ad revenue. Anyway, As measured, TWO VTF-3 Mark II's...

Has anyone done a DBT between a PB2+ and a pair of VTF-3 Mark II's ? Hsu will discount a pair of VTF-3 Mark II's to $1248 for the asking ... about a wash in price.