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  1. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Richard: The other discrepancy in the "turn back time" ending of the Donner Cut: if he reset time to the point right before the missile smashes into the Phantom Zone, wouldn't the missile smash into the Phantom Zone again? They should have showed him diverting the missile just before it hits
  2. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Sean: That particular scene is actually screen test footage, which I presume was directed by Donner. Loved the Donner Cut overall. I don't know that it will be my "preferred" version of II, since it doesn't mesh with what Singer did in Superman Returns, but I will certainly own it and watch...
  3. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    My preference for Donner's vision was never because Lester used too much cheese, but because Donner just put better images and situations on screen. Should be getting the Donner Cut in the mail today...can't wait to give it a spin (after I watch Superman Returns with my wife, who's never seen it).
  4. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    What do you mean by the fact that it is presented as a "finished" film? Does the mere fact that they released it on DVD make it a "finished" film? Did you really expect that the quality would be the same as S:TM or SR?
  5. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Derek: In all fairness, they are marketing the DVD as the "Richard Donner Cut" and anyone following its progression was well aware that there would be rough edges.
  6. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    My expectations were very low from the beginning. This is an ambitious project which was, from its inception, virtually impossible to complete with any degree of polish. It's a curiosity to me and nothing more...I never expected it to replace the Lester version.
  7. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Looking more and more like I will just pick up single disc versions of SR and The Donner Cut. I already have S:TM.
  8. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    I thought the sound was decent (I don't have your technical knowledge, however). But the picture was fantastic.
  9. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Andy: I saw Revenge of the Sith at the Odeon Leicester Square last summer, and I thought it was a great presentation.
  10. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Sorry if this has been answered already, but does anyone know if the S:TM special edition is going to have a new transfer?
  11. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    What a night and day difference between Warner going all out for the fans in this case, and Lucasfilm doing the bare minimum for the fans in the case of the original versions of Star Wars. No Lucas basher here, either. I love all six films. But the difference is stunning...the effort that...
  12. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    I think the fundamental reason why Donner didn't come back is because he never finished filming the Superman II scenes on the original shoot. Once the first movie was in the can, didn't the Salkinds basically force the production to shut down?
  13. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Box office: advantage Ratner (though, truth be told, most of that comes from the foundation laid by Singer...I bet Singer's X3 could have flirted with $275-300M domestic) Critics: advantage Singer. HTF reaction: advantage Singer (my reading anyway). You can only make that statement if you...
  14. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    So how "different" is the Donner version going to be? How much of the film will the casual Superman II fan recognize when he watches the Donner cut?
  15. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Ratner kicked Singer's ass? Please.
  16. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Travis: I mostly agree. II was great at the time because of all the action, I think. And the villains were much more menacing. But in time the artistry of I has won me over. It's a bit like ESB and ANH, really...as a kid, I always liked ANH better, but as an adult I started to like ESB more.
  17. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Still, I'm sure that the Donner cut will be available stand-alone at some point in the future...maybe just not right away.
  18. Chris Atkins

    Donner Superman 2 SE (merged thread)

    Man, if it's half as good as the Alien Quad...we will be very pleased. I think that's the best DVD set I own, and I own a lot of them.
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