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  1. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    No place in my town had it, so I had a local place order it for me. That's not real surprising given that the only major store in town that we have that sells DVDs is K-mart, no Wal-Mart until next june.
  2. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    I never gave up hope and I knew it would happen when it made good business sense for it to happen and I was right.
  3. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    As David VP said, I am one of those that will hold out hope that MTM season 2 will come out as long as I have hope to hold out. As for me not being alive to see the release, I'm 24 years old so I've got hopefully quite awhile to wait. Just like David Lambert I think this will be my last post in...
  4. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    Tressa, you asked some interesting questions and I wanted to try and answer them. Admittedly the guys over at TVShowsOnDVD.com know more than I do but these are my guesses. Keep in mind those numbers that were in my prior posts were estimates given in an article, and I will try and find it...
  5. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    Carlos, I was not intending to dash all your hopes for season 2. Truth be told, I still am holding out hope that they will find a way to release the show. If Fox can find a way to make money off of MTM then they'll make money off MTM. I didn't give those rough numbers of sales so that people...
  6. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    See, I don't know if I buy this either. I mean look at the overall number of households that have DVD players. What percentage of those households are also on the internet actively looking for news about what series will or won't be released in future seasons? If as you claim the release coming...
  7. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    John, got you, I figured that's what you meant, but wanted to make sure. Just to add to what John said in his response to this post, I agree that MTM wasn't really marketed all that well but TV releases weren't really marketed all that well at the time. How many shows even get commercials...
  8. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    I don't know where you heard that the discs were already done, but as far as I have heard this is not the case. The extra features were already produced, and I think that the episodes themselves may have undergone a restoration, but I don't think that necessarily means that the discs...
  9. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the sampler discs weren't for a combination of shows, but were instead one show per sample disc...so if that's right then the fact they're releasing a Buffy sampler disc would have nothing to do or no impact on the sale of the MTM sampler. I could be...
  10. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    Show me the Fox quote where someone from the studio said that they expected MTM to sell like the Simpsons? Until I see that quote, I don't think the question is necessary. I have one though. Why is it that if a show from fox under performs and they don't continue making seasons people...
  11. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    Wow, it looks like we've got our first octuple post. Again Lambert brings the awesome. That whole post was great, and I will definitely reference it in the future when this kind of argument comes up, and it will come up again...but that particular quote was the awesomeness all combined in to...
  12. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    I wouldn't pin my hopes of an MTM season 2 set on the fact that the Dick Van Dyke Show has seen the release of the complete series. Its 2 different shows from 2 different studios with 2 different sets of circomestances. Part of me wishes Fox would just take a shot with a season 2 release. It...
  13. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    You can disagree with it all that you want, but it doesn't make the statement any less true. Shows sell in the same range for each season, at least that's what Fox has found with their shows, and I'll be willing to bet they're not the only ones. TV ratings for good or bad don't dictate or even...
  14. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    As Randy mentioned, TV on DVD was hardly a novelty back in September 2002. I know this because there were already several TV shows on the market that I had been buying including The Simpsons, Friends, M*A*S*H, All in the Family, Sanford and Son, The Jeffersons, and there were a lot more I knew...
  15. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    David or anyone else, which episode has the one where PHilis becomes Ted's agent and gets him those endorsement deals? Farmer Ted cracks me up, especially Lou's reaction. I also love how Ted had an accountant that went to some high school.
  16. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    David, your Green Acres comparison has given me an idea. Has anyone thought of trying to buy MTM season 2 from a Mr. Eustace Haney? I mean seriously, he always seemed to have whatever Oliver needed, and if he knew that I needed the DVD for season 2 of the Mary Tyler Moore show I'm sure he'd...
  17. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    Um, Chris, if they didn't worry about money money money money money etc...and went bankrupt guess how many DVDs that studio would then be able to release? That's right, 0. I can't imagine why people would be surprised by this, I mean the singular goal of a business is to make money. Studios...
  18. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    I would just like to remind those that are hoping Fox is reading this thread, and that it will help convince them of the show's viability on DVD that it doesn't quite happen that way. 10 people talking about this in this thread will convince them of nothing, you can't just assume that because it...
  19. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    Music rights from what I understand can be a real tricky thing. To obtain clearance for sindication purposes might cost you a certain amount of dollars, and to clear it for home video release might cost you a different number of songs. It could be just that one song that got held up in rights...
  20. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    This is not surprising, as discussed many times TV on DVD doesn't get a lot of advertising in general. I've seen commercials for Friends during episodes airing in sindication, and a few other shows commercials on TV Land and stuff. Fact is most shows don't sell enough and aren't expected to sell...
  21. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    Unfortunately, fox does not release specific numbers for a show like this. You can bet that if another company had been handling the Dick Van Dyke show on DVD that it would've been done way different. Look at what Columbia does with its releases of older TV shows, they're looking at releasing...
  22. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    Carlos, I want you to read my first post in this thread in which I quote Mr. Staddon on another Fox show that wasn't supposed to hit DVD and is now coming out. I haven't seen Cathy use any facts to explain her reason for having such a pesamistic attitude towards future releases of MTM, whereas...
  23. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    I have my doubts that they will learn much of anything from sales of this release in terms of demand for season 2 of MTM and here's why. 1. There is a difference between spending $10 and $30-40 on a season set. Some people that buy this will do so because of the cheap price, and those people...
  24. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    I'm pretty sure that the answer to this question is yes. I'm not sure she ever said it, but I believe there were certain scenes where it was implied. I'll bet David VP has the right info.
  25. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    David VP, thanks for the episode list Ep. 32 is one of my favorites from the series. AndrewG right on with your comment about the DVD audience growing and expanding from when MTM season 1 was released. The advertising point is a good 1 and has been discussed before. David Lambert: I agree...
  26. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    Doesn't matter, they don't need more bonus material for this show, barebones will be just fine, as I and several others have said countless times. David VP in fact has said that the documentary on season 1 really covers it all up through season 1 and well beyond so what else could they do? Not...
  27. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    David VP, I was thinking the same thing when reading that email, those words jumped out at me. Maybe it will be fruitless to latch on to those few words as a sign of hope, but I've already been called dilusional so why not continue down that road?
  28. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    optemistic, opptimistic opptamistic, opptomistic opptumistic, ahptemistic and so on and so forth...
  29. Casey Trowbridg

    Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 coming in July (CONSOLIDATED DISCUSSION)

    I'll take acception to this. I have optamism about a release of future seasons of MTM, maybe not this coming year but eventually. I even pull up an old quote from Mr. Staddon regarding In Living Color to support my optamism and yet I'm still accused of living in a world that is not reality...
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