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  1. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    Your post just clarified the differences for me between the way we both see the PT Doug. And just like with Russell I think we can agree to disagree here because we clearly aren't going to sway each other. For the record, though here are my thoughts on some of what you found to be strengths: I...
  2. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    That's where we'll agree to disagree, Carl Russell. While upon initial viewing I was wowed by many of those scenes due to the effects, ultimately the convoluted plot, hollow and unsympathetic characters, and poor dialogue all conspired to reveal those scenes (and many others in TPM) for what...
  3. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    Actually if you want the blow-by-blow breakdown: First viewing: stood in line all day on release date, saw the 7:30PM showing at Mann Village in Westwood. If you've ever been in that atmosphere, in that theater, with the Star Wars fandom in full dress and regalia (from the OT costumes since...
  4. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    Absolutely agree 100%. And don't forget that Lucas had a brilliantly (and I mean this sincerely and positively) move of re-releasing the OT special editions just 2 years before TPM. People were lined up around the block to see those, why wouldn't they carry that over to at least TPM (which made...
  5. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    Don't feel bad, Carl. I saw TPM 4 times, AoTC 2 times and RoTS 1. Own all 3 on DVDs which I have never watched all the way through. I think I've shown the pod race a couple of times when the DVDs came out as reference material to show off my A/V system. I have contributed greatly to the B.O...
  6. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    Actually I'd argue there was group think at the time of release in favor of TPM. I remember really liking it the first two times I saw it in a packed theater on release week. The excitement of a new SW movie, lightsabers, space fights, Yoda, etc. It was all grand and golden. Then on subsequent...
  7. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    I would counter the "PT more critically praised than OT" with this: Today's critics are by and large nowhere near as knowledgeable or critical as those in the 70s and early 80s. Film was scrutinized much more closely then (just go to your local library and check out film reviews from that...
  8. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    Admittedly not an absolute quantifier of quality, but an insightful look nonetheless: Movie / IMDb score Star Wars: 8.8 ESB: 8.8 RoTJ: 8.3 TPM: 6.4 AotC: 6.8 RotS: 7.8 Rotten Tomatoes Movie : Freshness Critic%/Audience% SW: 94/93 ESB: 97/94 RoTJ: 78/93 TPM...
  9. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    I don't think the GFII was an unfair comparison. Sure it's telling a past and future story in parallel, but if you add up all of the prequel-ish parts, it's nearly a full length movie (especially when you add in the footage from the Godfather Saga/Trilogy versions). Yes GFII is not a true...
  10. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    Bad effects are bad effect, practical or computer generated. If it pulls you out of the story, or unduly catches your eye, it hasn't served its purpose. Effects are there to serve the story. Lucas is fond of reciting that mantra. Unfortunately somewhere between 1983 and 1997 he lost sight of...
  11. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    I don't know...Coppola did okay with the "Prequel" parts in Godfather Part II
  12. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    Remember when Lucas said that Star Wars would never be released on DVD? Well he backtracked on that, and while he would never admit it, one would have to say that the internet and respected forums like this (don't forget we have a bona fide, highly respected film restorer in our midst, as well...
  13. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    Actually the whole interplay of who could understand whom made the OT very exotic. Han could understand Chewy and Jabba, but not R2. Luke could understand seemingly everyone. So could Obi-wan. Leia, not so much initially but progressed through the trilogy. Etc., etc. And it...
  14. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    I never took any of those "aliens with accents" as racist in nature. I figured they were just too lazy to create alien languages (and subtitle them) like they did in the OT. Which is a real shame because those alien languages played a huge part in making the Star Wars universe feel like it had...
  15. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    The way I see it, there are three camps: 1. People who complain about the lack of an OOT are doing it out of a love of either the original films, or the preservation of film, or both. Agree or disagree, this camp at least have a valid, thoughtful reason for feeling how they feel. 2...
  16. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    I just think it's odd that whenever there are retrospective pieces about important historical films that he cares about (especially Kurosawa films) Lucas is usually front and center about film history, preservation, integrity, etc. It's so out of line with the way he treats his own works...
  17. Carlo_M

    TCFHE Press Release: Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Blu-ray)

    Original Trilogy for me (too bad about the lack of OOT). But hey I do have to give props that LFL isn't making me buy the PT in the same bundle. I'll have to see a breakdown of the exclusive "extras" for the Saga, but it would take an awful lot for me to buy it due to my feelings on the PT...
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