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  1. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    Even what Bilbo observed before he was knocked out was pretty epic. The book spends only 4 pages on it, but each page is loaded with stuff happening. And once Bilbo wakes up, there's another page where Gandalf explains what he missed. I think it would make perfect sense to show all the...
  2. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    Here's the challenge -- if the Hobbit was to be adapted into one 3-hour movie, Smaug's death would happen around the 2.5 hour mark (in the book it happens at 85%). That leaves 30 minutes for the falling action after Smaug's death, the build up to the battle of the 5 armies, the battle itself...
  3. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    The character of Elrond was changed from how he was in the book. That's not Weaving's fault, and the change doesn't bother me that much. The changes to Elrond added additional tension to the conflict to Aragorn & Arwen's romance. Elrond's portrayal is similar to the character of Thingol in...
  4. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    I'm assuming that 3D is something the studios pushed hard for. Only a director who is really against it, like Christopher Nolan, would have resisted. Jackson either likes 3D or is willing to go along with it to make the studios happy. I'll be seeing it in 2D.
  5. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    Is there some reason that Hugo Weaving isn't mentioned in that press release?
  6. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    You want production shut down because you don't want to see a certain take the material? Will its existence bother you so much that simply not seeing it won't be good enough? Are you just as ardent in hoping that paintings, songs, video games, etc. that "expand on" Tolkien's creation don't get...
  7. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    Matthew, Tolkien stopped because some of the people who offered feedback didn't like it because it wasn't The Hobbit that they knew. I wouldn't say that it didn't work. We don't have the finished result in order to make that judgment. If the portions of The Unfinished Tales related to the...
  8. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    In addition to the title, the producers will need to think about whether they want to prefix the movie with "The Hobbit:" or "The Lord of the Rings:". I would think that the studio would want them to, to make it clear to the public that the movie is part of the LOTR franchise. And since the...
  9. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    There are a lot of events that happen between the end of the Hobbit and the beginning of LOTR. Just looking at the timeline at the end of ROTK shows a lot of cool things that would make good cinema, such as the destruction of the Moria's dwarf colony, as you mention. One of the main challenges...
  10. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    Keep in mind that Tolkien was not a novelist, and he does a lot of things that a professional writer wouldn't do. For instance, the council of Elrond is a long board meeting featuring a lot of speaking characters who were not previously introduced (Tom Shippey cites this example in Tolkien -...
  11. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    I find it hard to believe that Jackson and Walsh have every moment of the Hobbit films planned out, especially the second movie which will contain material that Tolkien wrote relatively little about. I think that at best they have is a broad outline of the movies, and maybe more detailed ideas...
  12. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    Stefan, do you think audiences and fans would accept the story of the Hobbit being stretched out to two movies? I wouldn't mind, but I think a lot of people would object. Even a lot of people on this thread want a self-contained Hobbit movie that's faithful to the book. Jackson himself seems...
  13. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    I don't think showing the attack on Dul Goldor would take away from the battle with Smaug. For one thing Smaug is a lot more powerful than Sauron at the time. Smaug's attack on Laketown should be much more intense and climactic than Dol Guldor. Hundreds, if not thousands, of men are involved...
  14. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    I don't want to see The Hobbit changed, I would just rather see a movie that encompasses both the events in the Hobbit and the other events happening during that period of time. They could call it "The Quest of Erebor" so that people wouldn't go in thinking that it was a strict adaption of The...
  15. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    In addition to the scenes in the book, I would like a Hobbit movie to depict events surrounding the story that Tolkien expounds upon in "The Quest of Erebor" from the Unfinished Tales and The Lord of the Rings: [list=a]Smaug's attack on the Dwarves of Erebor.Gandalf finding Thorin's father...
  16. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    Don't forget Christopher Lee and Cate Blanchett. If the movie shows the attack on Dol Guldor, which takes place during the events of the Hobbit, then Saruman and Galadriel will be there in addition to Gandalf and Elrond.
  17. Ben Osborne

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

    If The Hobbit does get made it should include some of the things that the book hinted at but did not depict, or things described in the appendices of LOTR as happening concurrently with the events in The Hobbit. Things like Gandalf infiltrating the dungeons of The Necromancer, or The White...
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