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  1. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    Can I ask a simple question? Deduce this for yourselves. What is the primary distinction between an open matte live action film and an animated feature? Answer that, and you probably already know why this "open matte" analogy is DOA.
  2. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    The above was condescening and rude. No more so than that extended to me. You give it, be ready to take it. The question is a simple matter of whether or not the film was composed for the more constrictive widescreen ratio and protected for 4:3 or whether it was composed for 4:3 without...
  3. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    As you might be able to deduce from my name, I have no intention of revealing my identity, so you can further deduce I have no intention of being more specific regarding my knowledge of American animation or the Disney studios. You'll just have to take my word for it and use your own eyes and...
  4. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    What do you think of CASPER or DEATH BECOMES HER? All of the non-effects shots are open matte 1.33:1, but any shots involving special effects are 1.85:1 hard matte. A completely moot point as Robin Hood was shot entirely in 4:3, no differing aspect ratios for differing f/x shots. The point is...
  5. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    Disney animated features were almost never shown on television before the video era, ALICE IN WONDERLAND being one exception that comes to mind. Alice in Wonderland and Dumbo were both show in the initial seasons of the Walt Disney anthology TV show, as well as slews of shorts from his...
  6. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    I wonder what you think of the Super 35mm format I wonder how gloriously arrogant you are that you think I'm not aware of the S35 format. Robin Hood was not shot open matte, it was cropped for theatrical release. The 4:3 aspect ratio is its true aspect ratio. That's the truth, ruth.
  7. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    "In any case, as I recall, Robin Hood had some of its important sequences rotoscoped from previous Disney animations, which would make it difficult to establish a preferred aspect ratio other than the theatrical." Which is a statement singularly ignorant of the animation process. The ability...
  8. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    I admit that Disney animation has not been an emphasis for me, but the statement that Quote: The "whole image" is the "whole originally photographed image" is as generally erroneous with respect to animated films as in the case of live-action motion pictures shot flat since 1955, if you mean...
  9. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    Provide MORE evidence? What, you don't trust your own eyes? (see the link from UltmateDisney's review in the first post on this thread). You admit ignorance of Disney Feature Animation production techniques? That's no surprise, most people are. I don't ask Robert Harris to put up or shut up when...
  10. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    1) I'm not Orson Welles, but I don't have to provide strong evidence as to why colorizing Citizen Kane would be a bad thing. Just because you are ignorant of the production processes of Disney animated features post-1959 doesn't mean everyone else should accept cropping of their films as...
  11. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    Was the entire point of this thread to tell us what we're supposed to like? Was the HTF founded on acceptance of cropping footage to fit a home theater aspect ratio? That's what Disney has done. I can't believe people I respect like you and others are kowtowing to it...unless you just like...
  12. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    a) Good to know I am in the minority as regards to artist's rights, and the cropping of films to suit whatever aspect ratio is prevailing at the moment. Siskel and Ebert were wrong to fault Disney for cropping Snow White. The theatrcial ratio is definitive. In fact, Robert Harris was wrong to...
  13. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    And you sound like people at my local blockbuster complaining about the black bars. I will repeat myself since you selectively ignored the question. I posit to you, with BOTH aspects in mind, which is BEST? The version that gives you ALL the information (like the 4:3 version), or the...
  14. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    Yeah its just you, since Walt Disney is famous for shooting his 1954-55 TV shows like Davy Crockett and others in color even though he was airing in black and whie medium. He knew (from experience with film) that B&W TV wouldn't last.
  15. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    I really doubt Disney would produce a major feature film in 1973 that isn't intended for at least 1.66:1 theatrical matting. Patrick -- since the production of the animated episodes of the Disneyland TV series in the mid-50s (the great "Mars and Beyond" and others), the battle between 4:3 and...
  16. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    This is not "soft matte". This is 4:3 chopped for wide-screen. Your analogy ends there. Could proponents of MAR argue that films composed for both 4:3 as well as theatrical widescreen, and therefore, people advocating for the letterbox version -- they should also be silent, because the...
  17. Jambalaya Gumbo

    ROBIN HOOD -- Cropping Full-Frame Films for the Widescreen Future

    Ultimate Disney.com has posted a review of the new release of Disney's 1973 (74?) Robin Hood animated feature ("Robin Hood: Most Wanted Edition") and they convincingly make the case that the previous full frame version has been cropped top and bottom to allow for a new wide-screen 16x9...
  18. Jambalaya Gumbo

    Walt Disney's TRUE LIFE ADVENTURES -- Thoughts on the Restoration?

    Oops. Double thread post. I'm on satellite. Lock this double thread. Sorry.
  19. Jambalaya Gumbo

    Walt Disney's TRUE LIFE ADVENTURES -- Thoughts on the Restoration?

    I've been reading several reviews praising the digitial overhaul of these classsic Oscar-winning films. Being an idiot when it comes to such things, I thought I should seek out the experts on the HTF and ask them (including the great Robert Harris) what they thought of the work done to bring the...
  20. Jambalaya Gumbo

    Walt Disney's TRUE LIFE ADVENTURES -- Thoughts on the Restoration?

    I've been reading several reviews praising the digitial overhaul of these classsic Oscar-winning films. Being an idiot when it comes to such things, I thought I should seek out the experts on the HTF and ask them (including the great Robert Harris) what they thought of the work done to bring the...
  21. Jambalaya Gumbo

    Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007)

    Would you like a cookie?
  22. Jambalaya Gumbo

    Peter Pan Platinum Edition in March 2007

    I'm still pissed that "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea" didn't have all the classic material from the Disney show on it. That should be the point of these releases: archival/historic representations of the films that put Walt Disney on the map, not pimping out some piece of shit direct to DVD...
  23. Jambalaya Gumbo

    Blu-ray Disney info on "Cars" DVD

    Please don't trot out the old "Disney is evil" for their vault policies tripe. Disney doesn't do anything other studios don't, and considering they are protecting the long-term value of their library, they are correct to maximize their sales of these titles on home video. Bash Disney for...
  24. Jambalaya Gumbo

    Peter Pan Platinum Edition in March 2007

    If it doesn't retain the commentary track from the SE release, every single one of you should pass on it. Roy Disney, Kathryn Beaumont, John Canemaker and others appear on the SE commentary track and its a real joy. The Disney PE's have sadly abandoned commentary tracks...none on Lady and the...
  25. Jambalaya Gumbo

    Superman: The Ultimate Collection DVD Set

    This is why I like the extension to the Brando scene. Brando cautions Clark against vanity, and it is Clark's vanity that almost gets him killed. Superman endures these brutal physical attacks in Luthor's lair with ease, but it is his over-confidence that is harder to tackle. Luthor tells...
  26. Jambalaya Gumbo

    DVD Review HTF REVIEW: The Little Mermaid - Disappointingly NOT Recommended

    Reasonable people will usually make reasonable decisions. I hope that John Lasseter and the new people at Disney will do the right thing and release non-censored versions of Saludos Amigos, Make Mine Music, and Melody Time. Those alterations were far more egregious to my mind than "fixing" the...
  27. Jambalaya Gumbo

    Sleeping Beauty S.E. DVD not properly Scanned!!!

    Don't know if this helps or not, but Sleeping Beauty was announced by Walt himself as being shot in "Technirama 70", the same process used for The Black Cauldron. I don't know what the hell Technirama 70 is, or what impact that would have on the discussion. Just thought I would throw it out...
  28. Jambalaya Gumbo

    DVD Review HTF REVIEW: The Little Mermaid - Disappointingly NOT Recommended

    By removing it they almost admit the story is true. No, they just rid themselves of a silly urban legend created by people who didn't know what they were looking at. The offstage "Good Kitty" line in Aladdin was scrubbed as well.
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