Join Brian Dobbs and Sam Posten as they talk about titles in their collection that they now wonder why they spent actual money on.
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I wasn't sure we could make a compelling show out of this topic at first but maaaaan we had a lot of fun talking about the stinkers we have in our library and the worst movies we have ever seen. @Brian Dobbs brings out the best in me!
For me the worst movie is Waiting for Guffman. What's the worst thing you've ever seen???
For me the worst movie is Waiting for Guffman. What's the worst thing you've ever seen???
Stickied!
I have a feeling that a lot of Sam's faves would fall into my "stinker" category.
And vice versa.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, for example.
Any guesses whose stinker and whose cherished piles that one goes in?
And vice versa.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, for example.
Any guesses whose stinker and whose cherished piles that one goes in?
Stinker for me
...yet I think it's one of the very best movies of the entire decade.
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Think I saw some of this, but I can't remember it that well.
I rest my case.
Hey @Brian Dobbs I reviewed Hannibal after our discussion. Now I remember liking it, especially Ray Liotta's stir fry ==)
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/hannibal-uhd-review.362341/#post-4748011
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/hannibal-uhd-review.362341/#post-4748011
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Sweet. I forgot about Gary Oldman being in this movie. Now I want to go back and watch all these, except for Hannibal Rising.
Technically I think he's just a disembodied voice =)
I'm listening to the final cut and I am DYING over here on your cut of 'I drink your milkshake' LMAO
I'm listening to the final cut and I am DYING over here on your cut of 'I drink your milkshake' LMAO
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Yeah, it's funny how so many ideas come up during the edit that don't necessarily occur to me while we record.
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I don't have the capability of listening to podcasts at this moment, but wanted to comment on the following, which is something I've been thinking a lot about lately:
I think the first question here is, how you define "bad". If "bad" simply means, "title that I get enjoyment from that is not appreciated by critics and/or the general public," I don't see any issue at all. Sometimes we like things that go against the grain.
But if "bad" in this context means, "title I didn't enjoy that I have no desire to revisit," having a digital copy you can't get rid of ends up being more clutter. I've yet to figure out if there's a way to remove an unwanted title from iTunes/Vudu/MoviesAnywhere/Ultraviolet. Over the years, as different services have sprung up and offered different perks for joining, I've gotten a bunch of free titles, and it turns out that I disliked a few of them. I'll never watch them again, and yet, they're still there in my digital locker. On the one hand, it's not taking up and shelf space, but it's just something else to be responsible for and to sort through. It makes browsing through one's digital library a bit clunky, because the titles I don't want are taking up just as much screen real estate as titles I do want. It's cluttered and inelegant, and it can make it harder to choose something to watch when I'm faced with options I'd rather not have in the first place.
But I didn't always think that way. I used to be more along the lines of "the more the merrier" and I felt strongly that I was doing some kind of civic duty all these years by collecting titles (both physically and digitally) that ultimately was more about reflecting what I had seen rather than what I liked, or reflecting that I had knowledge of film history rather than reflecting which historical films were enjoyable to me.
Over the past year or two, it's like a switch has flipped in my head, and I'm no longer interested in being a repository of everything that exists, or everything I've ever come in contact with. I now simply want to collect things that I enjoy and that I might want to revisit. And having a digital collection with titles that don't fall into that category just gets in the way of what I'm trying to do.
(As a sidenote to this, I've been converting a lot of DVDs that I still had to digital formats - when you can go from a non-anamorphic DVD copy of something like Field Of Dreams to a 4K UHD stream for just $5, that's a no-brainer. Major upgrade on the quality of the content, wallet savings, and shelf space saving, that's a clean win. But I've also looked long and hard at DVDs that simply haven't been touched in 10, 15 or even 20 years. Is it really worth buying a digital copy, even if it's only $5, for a movie I haven't touched in 20 years? I've decided in many cases to simply get rid of the DVD, and wait to see if I ever get the urge to see the film again, rather than needing to have the content upgraded before being willing to get rid of the DVD. While I wouldn't call all of these "bad movies," it was a similar dilemma - why pay money now for something I'm not planning to use?)
I think the first question here is, how you define "bad". If "bad" simply means, "title that I get enjoyment from that is not appreciated by critics and/or the general public," I don't see any issue at all. Sometimes we like things that go against the grain.
But if "bad" in this context means, "title I didn't enjoy that I have no desire to revisit," having a digital copy you can't get rid of ends up being more clutter. I've yet to figure out if there's a way to remove an unwanted title from iTunes/Vudu/MoviesAnywhere/Ultraviolet. Over the years, as different services have sprung up and offered different perks for joining, I've gotten a bunch of free titles, and it turns out that I disliked a few of them. I'll never watch them again, and yet, they're still there in my digital locker. On the one hand, it's not taking up and shelf space, but it's just something else to be responsible for and to sort through. It makes browsing through one's digital library a bit clunky, because the titles I don't want are taking up just as much screen real estate as titles I do want. It's cluttered and inelegant, and it can make it harder to choose something to watch when I'm faced with options I'd rather not have in the first place.
But I didn't always think that way. I used to be more along the lines of "the more the merrier" and I felt strongly that I was doing some kind of civic duty all these years by collecting titles (both physically and digitally) that ultimately was more about reflecting what I had seen rather than what I liked, or reflecting that I had knowledge of film history rather than reflecting which historical films were enjoyable to me.
Over the past year or two, it's like a switch has flipped in my head, and I'm no longer interested in being a repository of everything that exists, or everything I've ever come in contact with. I now simply want to collect things that I enjoy and that I might want to revisit. And having a digital collection with titles that don't fall into that category just gets in the way of what I'm trying to do.
(As a sidenote to this, I've been converting a lot of DVDs that I still had to digital formats - when you can go from a non-anamorphic DVD copy of something like Field Of Dreams to a 4K UHD stream for just $5, that's a no-brainer. Major upgrade on the quality of the content, wallet savings, and shelf space saving, that's a clean win. But I've also looked long and hard at DVDs that simply haven't been touched in 10, 15 or even 20 years. Is it really worth buying a digital copy, even if it's only $5, for a movie I haven't touched in 20 years? I've decided in many cases to simply get rid of the DVD, and wait to see if I ever get the urge to see the film again, rather than needing to have the content upgraded before being willing to get rid of the DVD. While I wouldn't call all of these "bad movies," it was a similar dilemma - why pay money now for something I'm not planning to use?)
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Right, definitely with you here.
Totally. FoD non-anamorphic DVD sucks!
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Wow, they made a sequel? This reminds me, I need to pick up the original.
You guys mentioned Movie 43 in the podcast - it's on Netflix currently.
A sequel in name only (one of the running themes of the show, right?).
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