I’ve recently upgraded my DVDs of Casablanca & Mrs Miniver because the Blu-rays were inexpensive and the reviews impressive. These upgrades were worthwile. Should I upgrade other fullframe Warner DVDs to Blu-ray or should I wait for 4K UHD streaming versions? The movies are:<br />
1. The Adventures Of Robin Hood.<br />
2. The Treasure Of The Sierra Madre.<br />
3. Mutiny On The Bounty (1935).<br />
4. The Sea Hawk.<br />
5. Mildred Pierce.<br />
These movies are old transfers with modest bit rates, especially #1. I went through this exercise many years ago. I compared the DVD versus the Prime HD streaming version on a Roku 3 and concluded the small increase in detail was not worth the cost. I now realize, that due to frame rate conversion, the Roku 3 may not have been generating the very best picture quality. I now use the streaming app in my LG OLED TV. Perhaps I should do the comparison again?<br />
Has anyone done similar comparisons and can comment?
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It's a good question because reviews rarely give detailed comparisons with the DVD. I don't upgrade all my DVDs because if I did, I'd be broke and those I do upgrade I sometimes wonder whether it was worth it. Treasure of the Sierra Madre is a great film but I have to ask myself, did the Blu-ray really make much of a difference compared to the DVD to add to my enjoyment of it? I'm sure many will firmly disagree.
 

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It's a good question because reviews rarely give detailed comparisons with the DVD. I don't upgrade all my DVDs because if I did, I'd be broke and those I do upgrade I sometimes wonder whether it was worth it. Treasure of the Sierra Madre is a great film but I have to ask myself, did the Blu-ray really make much of a difference compared to the DVD to add to my enjoyment of it? I'm sure many will firmly disagreeI'm starting to think I should forget those old transfers (1-3) and spend on newer transfers like (4-5) and perhaps 'The Private Lives Of Elizabeth & Essex" (that I don't have on DVD).

I'm starting to think I should forget those old HD transfers (1-3) and spend on the newer transfers (4-5) and perhaps 'The Private Lives Of Elizabeth & Essex' (that I don't have on DVD)!
 

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Although Douglas R in post 2 makes a very good point, it should also be pointed out that some of the Warner Archive Blu-ray discs provide very large upgrades from the respective DVDs. The DVD of Out Of The Past, for example, was excellent and I doubted there was much scope for improvement. I was wrong! The Blu-ray disc is far better!
 

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Any of the WB widesceen historical films of the 50's and 60's would be incredible improvements in HD. Of course, WB shows no interest in most I'd be interested in like Helen of Troy, Land of the Pharaohs, The Prodigal and The Silver Chalice. Even pre-widescreen titles like Ivanhoe, Julius Caesar and Young Bess would be most welcome. I have no interest in 4K while beloved titles are remain in SD prison.
 

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I've recently upgraded my DVDs of Casablanca & Mrs Miniver because the Blu-rays were inexpensive and the reviews impressive. These upgrades were worthwile. Should I upgrade other fullframe Warner DVDs to Blu-ray or should I wait for 4K UHD streaming versions? The movies are:
1. The Adventures Of Robin Hood.
2. The Treasure Of The Sierra Madre.
3. Mutiny On The Bounty (1935).
4. The Sea Hawk.
5. Mildred Pierce.
These movies are old transfers with modest bit rates, especially #1. I went through this exercise many years ago. I compared the DVD versus the Prime HD streaming version on a Roku 3 and concluded the small increase in detail was not worth the cost. I now realize, that due to frame rate conversion, the Roku 3 may not have been generating the very best picture quality. I now use the streaming app in my LG OLED TV. Perhaps I should do the comparison again?
Has anyone done similar comparisons and can comment?

Robin Hood is one of my top 2 or 3 favorite films of all time, and I think it looks great on Blu-ray. I have those others on Blu with the exception of Mildred Pierce, which is a movie that does not have much replay appeal for me other than the occasional TCM airing (great movie, though). Because the others are such favorites I upgraded them unhesitatingly to Blu. Both the Flynn movies are better on Blu, IMO. I should also add that come of my Warner Blus are upgrades from their Red2Bly and DVD2Blu promotions (can't remember which ones).

Of recent releases, I did compare My Dream is Yours, Romance on the High Seas, A Tale of Two Cities and The Harvey Girls and found them all to be greatly improved over the DVDs. Because of the registration problems with the DVD of Elizabeth & Essex, the Blu upgrade is a no-brainer. Dodge City is the other Flynn Blu-ray that also looks great.
 

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I am struggling to think of any DVDs that haven't benefited from being upgraded to blu ray. Although I would like to have more catalogue titles on 4k, blu ray is the high point of home video due to the huge number of titles released and the big increase in AV quality over DVD. We have been blessed over the past 20+ years.
 

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I am struggling to think of any DVDs that haven't benefited from being upgraded to blu ray. Although I would like to have more catalogue titles on 4k, blu ray is the high point of home video due to the huge number of titles released and the big increase in AV quality over DVD. We have been blessed over the past 20+ years.
There are some like "The Strange Love of Martha Ivers" in which Paramount's 2005 DVD is superior to the Film Chest 2012 Blu-ray release.
 

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I am struggling to think of any DVDs that haven't benefited from being upgraded to blu ray. Although I would like to have more catalogue titles on 4k, blu ray is the high point of home video due to the huge number of titles released and the big increase in AV quality over DVD. We have been blessed over the past 20+ years.
The Blu-rays of THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD and THE HALLELUJAH TRAIL come to mind as being the same or even worse than the DVD. Ironically, these were both 65mm negative films so in a perfect budget-free world should have benefited greatly from Blu-Ray.
 

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How long after Blu-ray release do Warner Archive releases take to appear streaming in HD (Vudu, Prime etc)?
 

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The Blu-rays of THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD and THE HALLELUJAH TRAIL come to mind as being the same or even worse than the DVD. Ironically, these were both 65mm negative films so in a perfect budget-free world should have benefited greatly from Blu-Ray.
The Blu-ray of The Greatest Story Ever Told actually is a significant improvement as the DVD is that bad. This does not change the fact that subjectively it looks to have approximately DVD quality.

The Hallelujah Trail now has a pretty impressive streaming version out there that is a lot better than the incredibly disappointing Blu-ray. That is if one can forgive MGM that they have not revisited the original large format elements - the movie is still missing a big chunk of picture to the left and to the right.
 

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How long after Blu-ray release do Warner Archive releases take to appear streaming in HD (Vudu, Prime etc)?
For the most part, the video presentations on digital platforms outside of HBO Max are not derived from the same transfer as WA Blu-ray releases. Most of those iTunes, Vudu or Amazon are derived from older transfers.
 

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For the most part, the video presentations on digital platforms outside of HBO Max are not derived from the same transfer as WA Blu-ray releases. Most of those iTunes, Vudu or Amazon are derived from older transfers.
That may true in a few instances where multiple transfers exist: due to the film being worthy (Casablanca) or new elements discovered (The Sea Wolf) or Criterion like deluxe edition created (Mildred Pierce) but, in general, the cost of a new transfer is prohibitive. In general, I've avoided streaming those releases because the transfer provenance is unknown. In a few instances the old transfer is better than the new (Charley Varrick)!
I've always assumed releases followed a typical film release schedule: theatrical, physical media, cable then streaming with early adopters paying the most.
So does anyone know how long it takes Warner Archive releases to appear streaming?
 

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Robert’s answer was correct - the majority of the new masters created for Warner Archive’s Blu-rays have not been made available for streaming. This is true both for brand new discs from this year, as well as discs from when WA first entered the Blu-ray market.