I’ve been thinking about sharing this for quite a while now – how about we discuss my idea for a Blu-ray successor to the Walt Disney Treasures DVD series?
Here’s a wiki article I wrote about it.
I’ve come up with countless ideas for the collection, most of which are listed in the link above. The collection would consist of (largely) Walt-era animated and live-action shorts, feature films (not sure whether to include the “Disney Vault” titles or not), and television shows.
Do you have any ideas for the collection? Additional titles/sets? Bonus features? Cover art? Pack-ins?
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Well good luck.
I have a feeling we won’t see anything like those old Special Collection from Disney again.
I have a feeling we won’t see anything like those old Special Collection from Disney again.
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I have a feeling you're (for the most part) right...
(Between re-releasing certain titles over and over again, ditching certain bonus features, and messing with both the video and/or audio of some of their films, Disney didn't make good use of the Blu-ray format very much. They clearly should've tried a lot harder)
Anyways, anybody here have any ideas for this collection idea of mine? Do you know of anybody who can come up with some cover art for certain sets?
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A natural would be the classic animation looking like film, without all of the digital “cleanup”.
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That'll (or that'd) definitely be a given, especially regarding shorts and movies that were excessively cleaned up or DVNR'ed when first released on Blu (Steamboat Willie, Ye Olden Days, Thru the Mirror, Pluto's Christmas Tree(?), Mickey's Christmas Carol, a few color "Silly Symphonies", The Sword in the Stone, etc.).
Every set would come with a program booklet, a set of six lithographs, and a pack-in replica. Which posters/production art/etc. could be on some of the lithographs?
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Ryan I think I have 12 of those Disney DVD Tins, how many did Disney release altogether?
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Ambitious. At this point I'd be happy if they'd just release Melody Time and Make Mine Music on Blu-ray (club exclusives are fine), and both Fantasias on UHD. Naturally I'd prefer that they restore and remaster EVERYTHING and release it on UHD, but that ain't gonna happen.
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I take no joy in saying this, but Disney has largely moved on from physical media. They see streaming, and more specifically Disney+ as the future of home entertainment. Any wish that they will create extensive special edition releases like they used to is a very nice one, but extremely misplaced. They're happy to reissue their most famous catalog titles in 4K and stripped-down Blu-rays for those of us who still want to pay for that, and I'm sure their new theatrical films will continue to get disc releases because they'll take our money if we want to give it to them. But they're including less and less content even for premium priced releases. I would love to be wrong, but I just don't think they're going to do anything with the ideas you're pitching here. They haven't even gotten around to a Signature Collection re-release of The Jungle Book, and everything else in the former Platinum/Diamond Editions line has come out already, and all of the films are available on Disney+.
The Walt Disney Legacy Collection is already the name of a product line that Walt Disney Records did, featuring complete scores for I want to say something like 16 of their films. But even that has ground to a halt. The most recent release, which itself came out of nowhere, was for Beauty and the Beast in February 2018. They haven't done any others in over two years now, so it doesn't seem to be a priority for them at all.
The Walt Disney Legacy Collection is already the name of a product line that Walt Disney Records did, featuring complete scores for I want to say something like 16 of their films. But even that has ground to a halt. The most recent release, which itself came out of nowhere, was for Beauty and the Beast in February 2018. They haven't done any others in over two years now, so it doesn't seem to be a priority for them at all.
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There were 30(!) Treasures sets released. The lineup consisted of:
- Mickey Mouse in Black and White (two volumes)
- Mickey Mouse in Living Color (two volumes)
- The Chronological Donald (four volumes)
- The Complete Goofy
- The Complete Pluto (two volumes)
- The Adventures of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit
- Silly Symphonies (two volumes)
- Disney Rarities: Celebrated Shorts - 1920s-1960s
- Walt Disney on the Front Lines
- Behind the Scenes at the Walt Disney Studio
- Your Host, Walt Disney
- Davy Crockett
- Legendary Heroes: Elfego Baca and The Swamp Fox
- Dr. Syn: The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh
- Disneyland U.S.A.
- Tomorrowland
- Disneyland: Secrets, Stories & Magic
- The Mickey Mouse Club: Week One
- The Adventures of Spin and Marty (The Mickey Mouse Club)
- The Hardy Boys (The Mickey Mouse Club)
- The Mickey Mouse Club Presents: Annette
- Zorro (two seasons)
There was still a lot of stuff we could've gotten out of the series, like the remaining Donald/Goofy/"special" shorts, countless television serials and episodes, a set about Walt Disney World, etc. etc. etc., but what we did get was pretty solid!
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And I proudly own all 30.
As do I!
You can almost follow the beginning of the end of physical media just by looking at the certificates included in each set - the further into the series the company got, the fewer copies of each new title were made available.
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Thanks for the list I do have 14 tins.
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Yeah, I remember when Leonard Maltin was fighting tooth and nail to get the last couple of waves released. This was after Roy Disney had acrimoniously left the company over what he saw as Eisner's mismanagement of it. I remember because, up until that time, Roy had been the main cheerleader for the Treasures releases. Sadly, Eisner's replacement may have made the stockholders a lot of money, but the company has continued to lose any sense of existing for any reason other than to maximize profits. I have to admit to being bitter about what has happened to the theme parks under Iger and Chapek's reign, though. Never thought I'd see the day when Epcot would demolish a classic attraction to put in an IP-based roller coaster.
I'm holding on for dear life to the Treasures sets I have. Sadly, I wasn't able to get all of them.
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I appreciate all of the posts about the Treasures and how downhill Disney has gone, but perhaps we could focus at least a bit more on this collection idea of mine, shall we...?
I've been thinking about commissioning cover art for certain sets. Do you know of anybody here who can cook up some decent covers for the sets listed in the link above (in my original post)?
I've been thinking about commissioning cover art for certain sets. Do you know of anybody here who can cook up some decent covers for the sets listed in the link above (in my original post)?
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I'm not really sure what you're asking.
For reasons we have already discussed, most of us don't believe that your hypothetical collection is something that Disney will actually produce. So you want us to have a strictly hypothetical discussion about a hypothetical collection that Disney won't produce, and you want to create cover art for releases that will never actually exist? I'm not trying to be mean here, but I don't understand the point.
For reasons we have already discussed, most of us don't believe that your hypothetical collection is something that Disney will actually produce. So you want us to have a strictly hypothetical discussion about a hypothetical collection that Disney won't produce, and you want to create cover art for releases that will never actually exist? I'm not trying to be mean here, but I don't understand the point.
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Throw in actually uncut versions of Bedknobs and Broomsticks and Pete's Dragon and the collection would be a dream come true.
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I think there's a lot of factors on how likely Blu-rays could be, but there's definitely a market.
Use Steelbook packaging and consolidate some of the multi-volume sets (i.e. have all the Silly Symphonies in one 4-disc set). Packaging-wise, I've seen some impressive stuff with steelbooks with a clear slipcase and a booklet.
Use Steelbook packaging and consolidate some of the multi-volume sets (i.e. have all the Silly Symphonies in one 4-disc set). Packaging-wise, I've seen some impressive stuff with steelbooks with a clear slipcase and a booklet.
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Although I am aware of the fact that Disney most likely wouldn't produce anything as ambitious as my collection idea today (and I haven't discretely said that they will do anything with any of my ideas), I thought it would be cool if any custom cover artists around here would create hypothetical cover art for certain sets. Hey, I've seen some cover art for movies that, in reality, haven't made it onto Blu-ray at all yet (Song of the South, Make Mine Music, Melody Time, and Victory Through Air Power), so you might as well make the same case for those, too...
(If you still don't understand, I apologize)
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Laserdisc was never bigger than a niche even at its peak, yet that didn’t stop Disney from doing their best with them during the 1990s. The one thing you won’t be able to replicate with any new format is the thrill of finally being able to own the top-tier Disney animated Classics and watch them on your own time instead of when they want you to.
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Hi Waltwiz , I'm another holder of all 30 Treasures sets. Weren't there some further sets which included the nature series . They weren't tins , but rather plastic cases about the same size as the Treasure releases .
Everything you propose sounds great to me, but you have to wonder if the people who run Disney would consider them . Other than that , I wouldn't change very much of what you propose .
Meanwhile, I'm still hoping that we'll get the remainder of the "Walt -Era " feature films on BD somehow - either as Disney Movie Club Exclusives ( best shot ) , or as general release ( not likely ). I'm talking about things like Darby O Gill, Shaggy Dog Great Locomotive Chase, That Darn Cat , many others which I'd like to get Blu-ray releases, Then, there are also lots of TV episodes from the Anthology Series like Andy Burnette, Kilroy Was Here Daniel Boone etc. I'd love to see those as well, even if it's on DVD.
If the sets you propose ever happen I'll be one of the first to pre-order. but things at Disney , look hazy .
Everything you propose sounds great to me, but you have to wonder if the people who run Disney would consider them . Other than that , I wouldn't change very much of what you propose .
Meanwhile, I'm still hoping that we'll get the remainder of the "Walt -Era " feature films on BD somehow - either as Disney Movie Club Exclusives ( best shot ) , or as general release ( not likely ). I'm talking about things like Darby O Gill, Shaggy Dog Great Locomotive Chase, That Darn Cat , many others which I'd like to get Blu-ray releases, Then, there are also lots of TV episodes from the Anthology Series like Andy Burnette, Kilroy Was Here Daniel Boone etc. I'd love to see those as well, even if it's on DVD.
If the sets you propose ever happen I'll be one of the first to pre-order. but things at Disney , look hazy .
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