The Brady Bunch 50th Anniversary. Might we finally see a Brady Blu-ray

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Well folks, the 50th Anniversary of the 1969 premiere of the iconic TV series The Brady Bunch (1969-1974) is fast approaching ( September 26th, 2019 to be exact). Will the powers that be (Paramount unfortunately) finally set for to release this all important TV series in high definition onto Blu-Ray?

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  1. The BB label along the edge fell off my shag box. I need a pep talk from Mike Brady.

    I think every fan here would preorder an HD set. Maybe we could start up a petition and send it to Paramount. Include Gilligan, which would be like Twilight Zone and Lost in Space in HD.

  2. What I would like to see in this Blu-Ray updating is the original spring 1969 test-screen version of the pilot episode "The Honeymoon." Well, that, plus the pilot episode of the 1981 follow-up series The Brady Brides, called The Brady Girls Get Married.

    Also: restore the epilogue to two episodes: "The Honeymoon" (the original broadcast cut) and "Greg Gets Grounded."

    ~Ben

  3. Neil S. Bulk

    Wouldn't it be CBS now and not Paramount?

    If by that you mean that CBSTD would have its logo on it, instead of the Paramount Television logos of the time, then that's the way I think these Blus would be released (if in fact they are released at any time in the future).

  4. bmasters9

    If by that you mean that CBSTD would have its logo on it, instead of the Paramount Television logos of the time, then that's the way I think these Blus would be released (if in fact they are released at any time in the future).

    I guess I should have quoted the original post.

    Kyrsten Brad

    Will the powers that be (Paramount unfortunately)

  5. Kyrsten Brad

    Well folks, the 50th Anniversary of the 1969 premiere of the iconic TV series The Brady Bunch (1969-1974) is fast approaching ( September 26th, 2019 to be exact). Will the powers that be (Paramount unfortunately) finally set for to release this all important TV series in high definition onto Blu-Ray?
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    Unfortunately they didn’t release a HAWAII FIVE-O 50th Anniversary Blu-ray set last year, though I know firsthand that CBS DVD exec Ken Ross was pitched the idea (for a blu Ray Best-Of set to test the waters) and had considered it. And the DVD sets sold well. <sigh>

    So the chances aren’t great for a 50th BRADY BUNCH set, I suspect. Maybe digitally? I’d buy it in a heartbeat.

  6. ClassicTVMan1981X

    restore the epilogue to two episodes: "The Honeymoon" (the original broadcast cut) and "Greg Gets Grounded."

    I wasn't sure about Greg Gets Grounded but always thought that The Honeymoon episode has it's tag scene missing on the DVD.

    As far as a blu ray set of the series, I wouldn't be in for that because I don't own a blu ray player so a blu ray set would be useless to me. I'm fine with the DVD's, they're good enough for me.

  7. Ethan Riley

    I thought they couldn't do a blu ray because the original elements were chopped up prior to syndication and no longer exist? That's why the dvds look so hodge-podge in terms of editing.

    And that which possibly explains why some of the Paramount logos on scattered episodes of the season 2 DVD set do not match up right with their original air dates.

    Specifically, the visual versions… the one with the copyright below the Gulf+Western byline (first seen in the link I posted above at 0:21) was only seen six times on this series originally, but on the DVD it's placed on a few incorrect episodes (though the logo jingle is the right one):
    2.11 = What Goes Up… (12/11/1970)
    2.16 = The Drummer Boy (1/22/1971)
    2.20 = Lights Out (2/19/1971)
    2.22 = Double-Parked (3/5/1971)

    The only correct episodes to have that, in the same set, are…
    2.2 = The Babysitters (10/2/1970)
    2.4 = The Un-Underground Movie (10/16/1970)
    2.5 = Going, Going… Steady (10/23/1970)
    2.7 = The Treasure of Sierra Avenue (11/6/1970)

    ~Ben

  8. Ethan Riley

    I thought they couldn't do a blu ray because the original elements were chopped up prior to syndication and no longer exist? That's why the dvds look so hodge-podge in terms of editing.

    When Paramount issued the DVD sets, I have to give them credit for piecing the episodes back together as best as possible to restore them to full length. Aside from The Honeymoon episode missing it's tag scene, I believe "Pass The Tabu" might be missing a few seconds also, along with a few other little snippets missing here and there. But for the most part, the episodes were restored to full length for the DVD's.

  9. Lecagr

    When Paramount issued the DVD sets, I have to give them credit for piecing the episodes back together as best as possible to restore them to full length. Aside from The Honeymoon episode missing it's tag scene, I believe "Pass The Tabu" might be missing a few seconds also, along with a few other little snippets missing here and there. But for the most part, the episodes were restored to full length for the DVD's.

    Specifically, if I know right the season 1 and 2 episodes originally had the same 10-second opening "IN COLOR" bumper placed before the closing credits when ABC originally aired the series.

    ~Ben

  10. If this was happening, I likely would have heard something by now, and I haven't. Of course, if it was happening, I couldn't say anything, because people who spill the beans in forums don't get hired.

    I think Ethan Riley is correct, however. They don't have the elements to do it even if they believed it would be financially viable, which it would not, sad to say. Maybe several years ago it would have been, but not today.

    I'm with you guys, though. I'd sure like this jewel in my library, uncut in HD.

  11. If I Love Lucy wasn’t financially viable for release on Blu-ray (and sadly, it wasn’t), I’m not sure that there’s going to be a market for any vintage sitcom on Blu-ray going forward. There isn’t even really a viable market for modern sitcoms on Blu-ray. I don’t like it but I think that’s the reality of the situation.

  12. ClassicTVMan1981X

    Specifically, the season 1 and 2 episodes originally had the same 10-second opening "IN COLOR" bumper placed before the closing credits when ABC originally aired the series.

    ~Ben

    That's interesting, I know that the season 1 and 2 episodes start off with the "IN COLOR" bumper, but don't remember that the bumper was seen again prior to the closing titles in the original airings.

    As far as edits go on the DVD's, season 4 seems to have the most issues, one being the small edit in Pass The Tabu, and a few other episodes with minor omissions. Seasons 2, 3, and 5 appear to be edit free with all scenes intact. Season 1 appears to be edit free also, aside from The Honeymoon episode missing the tag scene.

  13. Neil S. Bulk

    I guess I should have quoted the original post.

    Actually I’m not so sure myself who has the rights to TBB. I was figuring Paramount but it might just be CBSTD.

    At this point I’d take streaming in HD if that’s the only viable way we get TBB in HD.

  14. Paramount Television was spun off into CBS.

    And yes, I'd buy it as streaming as well.

    Regarding the edits and missing footage, do we know for certain what was used for the DVD? The show was finished on film, so I've got to imagine the uncut negative survives and would be the source for a new HD transfer. It sounds like the DVDs were sourced from video masters.

  15. Josh Steinberg

    If I Love Lucy wasn’t financially viable for release on Blu-ray (and sadly, it wasn’t), I’m not sure that there’s going to be a market for any vintage sitcom on Blu-ray going forward. There isn’t even really a viable market for modern sitcoms on Blu-ray. I don’t like it but I think that’s the reality of the situation.

    Having spoken to a Paramount insider, the sales of television shows on Blu-ray are considered to be disappointing at best. Even at this stage, they find that when an item is released on both DVD and Blu-ray, the DVD version outsells the Blu-ray 10 to 1.

  16. John Karras

    Having spoken to a Paramount insider, the sales of television shows on Blu-ray are considered to be disappointing at best. Even at this stage, they find that when an item is released on both DVD and Blu-ray, the DVD version outsells the Blu-ray 10 to 1.

    That matches my experiences as well.

    A big problem for something like I Love Lucy, which basically killed CBS’s classic Blu-ray plans – Season 1 on Blu-ray had a retail price of about $120 (and was priced at about $80 on store shelves in its first week), and at the same time, you could buy the complete series on DVD for about $50. That’s just a really difficult sales pitch to make to a mass audience, especially when you can see episodes for free every day on broadcast and cable networks and streaming services.

    If CBS was gonna do Brady in HD, a single season would probably cost what the complete series DVD set would be. I think there’s a small number of dedicated collectors willing to pay that but not enough of them to make it worthwhile.

    I’ve been loving the chance to see classic shows in HD quality so it’s disappointing news to me. I hope that there might be another revenue stream for shows like Brady Bunch to pay for the remastering costs. Fox recently remastered MASH in HD but it wasn’t for Blu-ray, it was to be able to keep the show viable for continued licensing for reruns and streaming. So my hope is that they’ll keep making the investment in remastering even if the disc release dry up.

  17. Josh Steinberg

    That matches my experiences as well.

    A big problem for something like I Love Lucy, which basically killed CBS’s classic Blu-ray plans – Season 1 on Blu-ray had a retail price of about $120 (and was priced at about $80 on store shelves in its first week), and at the same time, you could buy the complete series on DVD for about $50.

    Why would one season's worth of Lucy on Blu cost more than the all-in-one DVD?!

  18. bmasters9

    Why would one season's worth of Lucy on Blu cost more than the all-in-one DVD?!

    That's a great question. I can't speak for I LOVE LUCY, but mastering season one of THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW in HD cost a ton of money. The source material was a little soft to start with, which made it even worse. And there were other things: the cost of the rights to getting the theme music to play over the BD menus was outrageous, to say nothing of the cost of simple images for box and disc art (hence the results). That set was priced a lot less than LUCY, but even at $70, it's almost a non-starter when you could get the entire DVD series for less.

  19. Carabimero

    That's a great question. I can't speak for I LOVE LUCY, but mastering season one of THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW in HD cost a ton of money. The source material was a little soft to start with, which made it even worse. And there were other things: the cost of the rights to getting the theme music to play over the BD menus was outrageous, to say nothing of the cost of simple images for box and disc art (hence the results). That set was priced a lot less than LUCY, but even at $70, it's almost a non-starter when you could get the entire DVD series for less.

    I never knew there were all those costs behind the making of Lucy's Blus (as far as they've been released)! No wonder they cost as much as they did!

  20. Carabimero

    That's a great question. I can't speak for I LOVE LUCY, but mastering season one of THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW in HD cost a ton of money. The source material was a little soft to start with, which made it even worse. And there were other things: the cost of the rights to getting the theme music to play over the BD menus was outrageous, to say nothing of the cost of simple images for box and disc art (hence the results). That set was priced a lot less than LUCY, but even at $70, it's almost a non-starter when you could get the entire DVD series for less.

    Not to mention the costs of authoring, disc pressing, marketing and distribution. In the enthusiasm for the release of a title, people sometimes lose sight of just how costly a project can be.

  21. Ethan Riley

    I thought they couldn't do a blu ray because the original elements were chopped up prior to syndication and no longer exist? That's why the dvds look so hodge-podge in terms of editing.

    True and since they tried classic TV on Blu Ray with the 1st two seasons of I love Lucy, 1st season of Andy Griffith and The Honeymooners and those didn't sell well even at the bargain prices I think they are done with classic TV on Blu Ray. With the huge remastering cost that would be needed for Brady Bunch I don't think they will even consider it unfortunately.

  22. Neil S. Bulk

    Paramount Television was spun off into CBS.

    And yes, I'd buy it as streaming as well.

    Regarding the edits and missing footage, do we know for certain what was used for the DVD? The show was finished on film, so I've got to imagine the uncut negative survives and would be the source for a new HD transfer. It sounds like the DVDs were sourced from video masters.

    Given the differences in PQ on some episodes on my DVD sets of The Brady Bunch and The Partridge Family, I’d say you’re correct about the video masters.

  23. John Karras

    Not to mention the costs of authoring, disc pressing, marketing and distribution. In the enthusiasm for the release of a title, people sometimes lose sight of just how costly a project can be.

    I authored classic TV on DVD discs for years and it seemed like with each new project, my mouth dropped at all the expenses I'd never thought about–most of them to do with rights issues and legal clearances.

    After I was given permission to publicly post FIXING THE FUGITIVE, I got steady work. My first job was for a different studio, but on a beloved, long-awaited DVD set. I wasn't hired to author it but to produce special features for the bonus disc. I was told I had 62 minutes of screen time on the disc, given a list of cleared topics and sources, a ticking clock of 42 days, and a small production budget of a few thousand dollars.

    I was determined to come in on schedule and under budget, which I did. Then I was told, "Eight minutes have opened up on the disc if you want them."

    Hell yeah I wanted them. While I had come in under budget, it wasn't by much. As luck had it, however, once upon a time I had read scripts for one of the principal actresses in the show. I called her and asked if she'd be willing to do an interview for the special features disc (no one had thought to contact her earlier, and she hadn't been one of my assigned packages). She said she'd love to.

    I had $500 left in my budget and gave it to her. Luckily I had my own production equipment, so it was a simple matter to take a couple of soft boxes, a tripod, my camera, and a mic, and go do the interview at her house. I shot three hours of raw footage, then worked a couple of 15-hour days cutting it into a seven-minute package. I reasoned that I could use clips from the series to make my transitions. After all, I believed, the studio owned the series.

    I submitted the package. A week later I received this message: "We can't include your featurette since it would require 17 clearances at an estimated cost of $124,000."

    When I asked for details, I learned that rights issues are so complex and convoluted that the conversation quickly became a waste of my time, which would better be spent cutting out those clips and doing a straight interview package. Which I did and delivered with a few hours to spare.

    I thought since I'd made my deadline, they'd use the package, in which the star had answered the best fan questions I had received for her.

    Two weeks passed. I heard nothing. When I inquired, I was told that lawyers had to review the interview. Of course by the time they did and cleared it, it was too late to be included on the set.

    Once the set came out, I thought I could post the interview on YouTube so at least the fans could see it. But what a lot of people don't understand is that when I get hired to work on these sets, it's a work for hire. Yes, the studio employs me, but I don't get health insurance and ANYTHING I produce is their property. So they owned the interview. And once it was explained to me, I understood that.

    I learned a lot from that job, mostly that everything cost way more than I ever thought, and took way longer to clear than I ever imagined. My perceptions on the outside of the door as a fan were so completely naive compared to the realities of actually being in the room and producing those sets that it still humbles me to this day.

  24. Neil S. Bulk

    Regarding the edits and missing footage, do we know for certain what was used for the DVD? The show was finished on film, so I've got to imagine the uncut negative survives and would be the source for a new HD transfer. It sounds like the DVDs were sourced from video masters.

    Ok, from what I remember from the various discussions about the edits and the fluctuating picture quality this is why the DVDs look the way that they do.

    When Paramount was preparing the series for DVD release, they did indeed intend to include the series as it was originally broadcast complete and uncut. In order to do that they had to locate all of the missing footage. Sadly, there were no 35mm or video tape versions of the complete episodes. While the original negatives may or may not still exist, if I remember correctly, it would have been too costly to make new prints. Additionally, the negatives also needed restoring which added more cost to the project. There were 16mm versions available that were more complete. Not 100% complete but at least more complete than the then current syndicated prints. So, it was decided to utilize the missing footage from the 16mm versions inter cut with the better quality syndicated prints to reassemble the episodes as closely to original broadcast length as possible. As has been noted, not all of the missing footage was located and the fill in squares at the end of the Grand Canyon (part 1 & 2) and Hawaii (part 1 & 2) episodes are also missing. Paramount did release a statement at the time explaining part of this so that is how we knew 16mm versions were used and 35mm versions (or complete video tapes) could not be located. Since it has never been stated otherwise, it is assumed that the original 100% complete negatives do still exist. What it would cost today to strike new uncut prints (and restore the negatives) is still unknown. I doubt the cost has gone down all that much since the DVDs were released.

    So, on the plus side the DVDs did indeed include footage that hadn't been seen in over 30 years but as stated they were not perfect.

  25. At this point, in 2019, I don’t see the need to strike new prints – that expense can be saved by scanning the original negatives, which certainly makes more sense in terms of asset protection.

    Scan the original negatives and you have a new archival asset that can be leveraged and repurposed in countless ways. Scan a print and you get a new video master of limited use.

  26. I'm pretty sure they were saying, at the time the dvds came out, that the original negative do not exist. The syndication prints were edited right from the original negatives, cut up and the footage was discarded. Maybe someone can dig up old threads because I can't find the one we were discussing that on, years ago.

  27. I don't know if the negatives exist, but as of 2014, they were not in the Paramount vaults. I know because I checked when I was working on another project. But they could easily be somewhere else. That said, my opinion is that they are not extant.

  28. So was the Brady Bunch shot on 35mm film? Along with the other shows mentioned in this thread? Otherwise wouldn’t this mean a DVD upconvert to blu-ray? I realize many things where shot on film back in the day and who has the negatives if the show was on film? This is a show I grew up with so I would most likely love to have it on blu-ray. And hopefully this is not one of those cases where the content was not stored in bad conditions and the film stock rotted. Anyone know if Brady Bunch was shot with film and where is the film negatives now?

  29. Sorry did not read through all the post so I will amend part of my post since I am not able to edit it. So Brady Bunch at one time had 35mm prints and 16mm prints. So where are they being kept and are the 35mm prints really gone?

  30. If the original negatives are indeed gone, then that complicates matters. The existing 16mm prints may be the only thing close to the original broadcast episodes left. Sad that such an iconic show has been partially lost.

    I watched a few episodes on MeTV a couple of years ago and they were using new syndicated cuts that contained some of the 16mm footage that was on the DVDs. I don't know if Paramount has made new syndicated tapes or if these were done by MeTV. The older syndicated tapes were looking pretty shabby. I remember those from TV Land and they looked awful. Really, really grainy and washed out color. Plus TV Land rarely (if ever) showed the Subject Was Noses (Marcia and the football) and Her Sister's Shadow (Marcia, Marcia, Marcia) episodes. I don't know why. I taped the series from TV Land at the time. TV Land cycled through the series three times while I was attempting to get every episode, and they didn't show those episodes once.

  31. Brian Himes

    If the original negatives are indeed gone, then that complicates matters. The existing 16mm prints may be the only thing close to the original broadcast episodes left. Sad that such an iconic show has been partially lost.

    I watched a few episodes on MeTV a couple of years ago and they were using new syndicated cuts that contained some of the 16mm footage that was on the DVDs. I don't know if Paramount has made new syndicated tapes or if these were done by MeTV. The older syndicated tapes were looking pretty shabby. I remember those from TV Land and they looked awful. Really, really grainy and washed out color. Plus TV Land rarely (if ever) showed the Subject Was Noses (Marcia and the football) and Her Sister's Shadow (Marcia, Marcia, Marcia) episodes. I don't know why. I taped the series from TV Land at the time. TV Land cycled through the series three times while I was attempting to get every episode, and they didn't show those episodes once.

    At least one other episode is rarely shown on TV now: "What Goes Up…" It is the one where Carol misidentifies Peter as Chris (as in Christopher Knight: the real name of the character's portrayer).

    ~Ben

  32. ClassicTVMan1981X

    At least one other episode is rarely shown on TV now: "What Goes Up…" It is the one where Carol misidentifies Peter as Chris (as in Christopher Knight: the real name of the character's portrayer).

    ~Ben

    Kinda wondering how often the episode “Two Petes In A Pod” has been shown. Especially considering the scene where Pete’s “twin” is initially smitten with Jan Brady and how Jan can’t believe her brother is actually being nice to her for a change.

  33. Carabimero

    I don't know if the negatives exist, but as of 2014, they were not in the Paramount vaults. I know because I checked when I was working on another project. But they could easily be somewhere else. That said, my opinion is that they are not extant.

    I wonder if the original negatives might be in the hands of Sherwood Schwartz estate.

  34. Gilligan's Island didn't have those same problems on DVD, and there are multiple parties involved in the ownership of that.

    I still can't believe that Paramount at any time in its history over the past 50 years would have pulled such a stunt like this, especially when The Odd Couple, Happy Days, and Laverne and Shirley didn't face that kind of treatment.

    Love American Style
    also got irreversibly cut up between network and syndication from what I've heard.

  35. MatthewA

    Gilligan's Island didn't have those same problems on DVD, and there are multiple parties involved in the ownership of that.

    I still can't believe that Paramount at any time in its history over the past 50 years would have pulled such a stunt like this, especially when The Odd Couple, Happy Days, and Laverne and Shirley didn't face that kind of treatment.

    Love American Style
    also got irreversibly cut up between network and syndication from what I've heard.

    In the case of Love, American Style, I believe the initial damage occurred when the series was first prepared for reruns on ABC's daytime schedule in the fall of 1971.

    ~Ben

  36. Pmprod7

    I'm still upset that CBS/Paramount didn't remaster the Brady Kids cartoon series on their release. It still has the same faded picture the syndicated prints had on the DVD.

    The only real difference being the replacement of the original customized Paramount Television logos after the Filmation logo with the CBS Television Distribution logo.

    ~Ben

  37. ClassicTVMan1981X

    The only real difference being the replacement of the original customized Paramount Television logos after the Filmation logo with the CBS Television Distribution logo.

    ~Ben

    Why would they do that on The Brady Kids, yet leave that red Paramount Split Box on the animated 70s Star Trek?

  38. MatthewA

    Because it's Star Trek, that's why.

    S'what I thought– I think what you're saying is that Star Trek is more revered and remembered in America's entertainment consciousness than The Brady Bunch, so they'll treat it better; that's what you mean, isn't it?

  39. Good Day. I was inspired to post this by the Classic TV in DVD Coming To An End thread since I’ve been recently viewing my Brady Bunch DVDs on this nifty new Naxa 22” portable HDTV (1080p). Makes for great DVD and Blu-ray (with added Blu player) watching while away from home on business.

    Anyway I just watched two S4 BB episodes that I’d never yet seen (“Goodbye Alice Hello” and “Greg’s Triangle “) which thanks to DVD, I could watch. What fantastic episodes. Especially fun seeing Greg get the snow job from the cute cheerleader Jennifer angling to become head cheerleader (Greg was presiding over the selection committee). Problem was that Marcia was also trying out for head cheerleader as well.

    Anyway other than DVD for now, is there really any other way to get TBB and have total control over what you watch and when you watch it?

    As for a hopeful Blu-ray (or even HD streaming) release, still keeping my fingers crossed as September approaches.

    Which begs a question. Couldn’t a HD streaming offering be set up on say VUDU with an option to purchase a MOD Blu-ray if so desired?

  40. bmasters9

    S'what I thought– I think what you're saying is that Star Trek is more revered and remembered in America's entertainment consciousness than The Brady Bunch, so they'll treat it better; that's what you mean, isn't it?

    Certainly more revered than The Brady Kids. 🙂

  41. Pmprod7

    I'm still upset that CBS/Paramount didn't remaster the Brady Kids cartoon series on their release. It still has the same faded picture the syndicated prints had on the DVD.

    If you check on disc 2, the last few episodes that have the bumper at the start, those bumpers are in great quality. Sadly shows how awesome the series would have looked if they restored the episodes for the set.
    This show was one of my holy grail titles. I love the snide retorts people make when conversing with Fleetwood.

  42. ClassicTVMan1981X

    They still need to get both The Brady Brides (1981) and The Bradys (1990) worked on…

    ~Ben

    Yep, I could never understand why they didn't do a "Season Six" box with those two short series, and of course the Christmas movie.

  43. Kyrsten Brad

    Good Day. I was inspired to post this by the Classic TV in DVD Coming To An End thread since I’ve been recently viewing my Brady Bunch DVDs on this nifty new Naxa 22” portable HDTV (1080p). Makes for great DVD and Blu-ray (with added Blu player) watching while away from home on business.

    Anyway I just watched two S4 BB episodes that I’d never yet seen (“Goodbye Alice Hello” and “Greg’s Triangle “) which thanks to DVD, I could watch. What fantastic episodes. Especially fun seeing Greg get the snow job from the cute cheerleader Jennifer angling to become head cheerleader (Greg was presiding over the selection committee). Problem was that Marcia was also trying out for head cheerleader as well.

    Anyway other than DVD for now, is there really any other way to get TBB and have total control over what you watch and when you watch it?

    As for a hopeful Blu-ray (or even HD streaming) release, still keeping my fingers crossed as September approaches.

    Which begs a question. Couldn’t a HD streaming offering be set up on say VUDU with an option to purchase a MOD Blu-ray if so desired?

    Greg's Triangle was the television debut of Rita Wilson, who ended up winning the cheerleader competition.

  44. bmasters9

    S'what I thought– I think what you're saying is that Star Trek is more revered and remembered in America's entertainment consciousness than The Brady Bunch, so they'll treat it better; that's what you mean, isn't it?

    Yes, even though The Brady Bunch managed to last two years longer on network TV and did slightly better in the ratings.

    ClassicTVMan1981X

    They still need to get both The Brady Brides (1981) and The Bradys (1990) worked on…

    ~Ben

    That may be easier said than done. The former was done entirely on film, but the latter was shot on film and edited on tape the way many late 1980s/early 1990s shows are. If they can remaster MacGyver, then I'm sure it's doable, but I'd be surprised if they did simply because I'd be surprised to see them go to the expense of remastering a flop, even if it was a sequel to a hit.

  45. MatthewA

    Yes, even though The Brady Bunch managed to last two years longer on network TV and did slightly better in the ratings.

    That may be easier said than done. The former was done entirely on film, but the latter was shot on film and edited on tape the way many late 1980s/early 1990s shows are. If they can remaster MacGyver, then I'm sure it's doable, but I'd be surprised if they did simply because I'd be surprised to see them go to the expense of remastering a flop, even if it was a sequel to a hit.

    I know The Brady Brides is of far greater significance than The Bradys as it was the very last time all nine original cast members from the original 1969-74 series appeared together!

    ~Ben

  46. And if there is anything I find about the fifth and final season of the series that they cheapened out on, besides the last-minute addition of Robbie Rist as Cousin Oliver, it is the end title sequence: they just pasted the season 3 end title audio (including that of the Paramount logo) under the season 5 end title visual!

    ~Ben

  47. moviebuff75

    Everything but the variety show. No mention of restorations.

    And for obvious reasons… the 1977 Variety series featured renditions of certain popular songs sung by the then-current version of the cast (with Geri Reischl in Eve Plumb's place as Jan), which would make it too expensive to release in full. There had been a DVD set with two episodes, which has since been out of print.

    ~Ben

  48. TV Fanatic

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    Hmmm, It looks like Paramount is attempting to include the whole Brady Bunch franchise (minus the variety show) but I wonder. The Brady Brides was the series proper. The pilot was the TV movie The Brady Girls Get Married. Not to be a pessimist, but is this going to include The Brady Girls Get Married or just The Brady Brides series?

    Also, I'm sure that The Bradys and The Brady Brides might get a separate release. There are far too many of us that already own The Brady Bunch, The Brady Kids and A Very Brady Christmas (and maybe the movies too). Unless the price is too good to pass up, I can't see double dipping just for the two continuation (and they are a continuation rather than spin offs) series.

  49. Brian Himes

    Hmmm, It looks like Paramount is attempting to include the whole Brady Bunch franchise (minus the variety show) but I wonder. The Brady Brides was the series proper. The pilot was the TV movie The Brady Girls Get Married. Not to be a pessimist, but is this going to include The Brady Girls Get Married or just The Brady Brides series?

    Also, I'm sure that The Bradys and The Brady Brides might get a separate release. There are far too many of us that already own The Brady Bunch, The Brady Kids and A Very Brady Christmas (and maybe the movies too). Unless the price is too good to pass up, I can't see double dipping just for the two continuation (and they are a continuation rather than spin offs) series.

    I am sure that the pilot will be there!

    ~Ben

  50. ClassicTVMan1981X

    I am sure that the pilot will be there!

    ~Ben

    Brian Himes

    Hmmm, It looks like Paramount is attempting to include the whole Brady Bunch franchise (minus the variety show) but I wonder. The Brady Brides was the series proper. The pilot was the TV movie The Brady Girls Get Married. Not to be a pessimist, but is this going to include The Brady Girls Get Married or just The Brady Brides series?

    Also, I'm sure that The Bradys and The Brady Brides might get a separate release. There are far too many of us that already own The Brady Bunch, The Brady Kids and A Very Brady Christmas (and maybe the movies too). Unless the price is too good to pass up, I can't see double dipping just for the two continuation (and they are a continuation rather than spin offs) series.

    I really hope Brides and Bradys get separate releases. Only thing that could really sell me on this set is if Brady Kids has been restored since the DVD release a few years back.

  51. Sean Thompson

    I really hope Brides and Bradys get separate releases. Only thing that could really sell me on this set is if Brady Kids has been restored since the DVD release a few years back.

    And as I said earlier, only The Brady Brides of these two follow-ups is of any real significance to the franchise as it was the very last time all nine cast members from the original 1969-74 series had appeared together.

    ~Ben

  52. ClassicTVMan1981X

    And if there is anything I find about the fifth and final season of the series that they cheapened out on, besides the last-minute addition of Robbie Rist as Cousin Oliver, it is the end title sequence: they just pasted the season 3 end title audio (including that of the Paramount logo) under the season 5 end title visual!

    Seasons 3 and 5 always had the same opening theme and closing theme. They went back to it because they weren’t happy with the season 4 versions.

  53. ClassicTVMan1981X

    I know The Brady Brides is of far greater significance than The Bradys as it was the very last time all nine original cast members from the original 1969-74 series appeared together!

    ~Ben

    That was just the 90-minute movie that started it. It's not clear whether they will include it with the 1981 sequel series, which Florence and Ann only occasionally appeared on and the men avoided altogether. This show was how Eve Plumb made up for skipping the variety series (also held hostage by the Music Rights Monster even though the godawful Pink Lady, also by Sid and Marty Kroft, escaped its clutches) for a Burger Chef commercial. It only ran a year because CBS's The Dukes of Hazzard trounced it and another Sherwood Schwartz production, Harper Valley PTA (starring Barbara Eden and based on the movie and song, but produced by Universal), yet when Grant Tinker took over as head of NBC and promised to rebrand it as a more highbrow network, the latter show got a second chance next season but not the former.

  54. dawnshadow

    So are there any special features that are exclusive to the the older set and missing from this one?

    Good question. I seem to recall that a few of the kids did commentary on at least two season 1 episodes. Be interesting to see if that makes it over to this new release.

  55. sjbradford

    Seasons 3 and 5 always had the same opening theme and closing theme. They went back to it because they weren’t happy with the season 4 versions.

    What was wrong with the fourth-season tracks?

  56. MatthewA

    That was just the 90-minute movie that started it. It's not clear whether they will include it with the 1981 sequel series, which Florence and Ann only occasionally appeared on and the men avoided altogether. This show was how Eve Plumb made up for skipping the variety series (also held hostage by the Music Rights Monster even though the godawful Pink Lady, also by Sid and Marty Kroft, escaped its clutches) for a Burger Chef commercial. It only ran a year because CBS's The Dukes of Hazzard trounced it and another Sherwood Schwartz production, Harper Valley PTA (starring Barbara Eden and based on the movie and song, but produced by Universal), yet when Grant Tinker took over as head of NBC and promised to rebrand it as a more highbrow network, the latter show got a second chance next season but not the former.

    Regardless of whether or not the pilot will be in this box set (my mind hopes it will be!), it will also be interesting to know if the original 1980 Paramount Television logo (the one where the word "Television" never appears) will remain or not…

    But this would be the intended version…

    ~Ben

  57. Kyrsten Brad

    Good Day. I was inspired to post this by the Classic TV in DVD Coming To An End thread since I’ve been recently viewing my Brady Bunch DVDs on this nifty new Naxa 22” portable HDTV (1080p). Makes for great DVD and Blu-ray (with added Blu player) watching while away from home on business.

    Anyway I just watched two S4 BB episodes that I’d never yet seen (“Goodbye Alice Hello” and “Greg’s Triangle “) which thanks to DVD, I could watch. What fantastic episodes. Especially fun seeing Greg get the snow job from the cute cheerleader Jennifer angling to become head cheerleader (Greg was presiding over the selection committee). Problem was that Marcia was also trying out for head cheerleader as well.

    Anyway other than DVD for now, is there really any other way to get TBB and have total control over what you watch and when you watch it?

    As for a hopeful Blu-ray (or even HD streaming) release, still keeping my fingers crossed as September approaches.

    Which begs a question. Couldn’t a HD streaming offering be set up on say VUDU with an option to purchase a MOD Blu-ray if so desired?

    Yes. I can watch it anytime via Hulu and CBS All Access.

  58. sjbradford

    Seasons 3 and 5 always had the same opening theme and closing theme. They went back to it because they weren’t happy with the season 4 versions.

    bmasters9

    What was wrong with the fourth-season tracks?

    My read was there wasn't anything technically wrong with the Season 4 tracks, just that Paramount wasn't esthetically pleased with them, for whatever reason.

    CHEERS! 🙂

  59. JQuintana

    Yes. I can watch it anytime via Hulu and CBS All Access.

    Only thing is, Hulu and CBS All Access (I subscribe to both services) are missing several episodes. I'm guessing there are content in the missing episodes in which streaming rights haven't been worked out.

  60. jim_falconer

    The “Brady-est” Brady Bunch collection arrived today. Awesome collection…terrible packaging

    I remain curious… do any episodes of The Brady Brides keep the original Paramount Television "Blue Mountain" logos, or not? Since these were not previously available on DVD, I may hint at them being not remastered and thus the original logos stayed.

    ~Ben

  61. jim_falconer

    The “Brady-est” Brady Bunch collection arrived today. Awesome collection…terrible packaging

    Is it the current CBS style which I have on The Streets of San Francisco and The Untouchables, among others?

  62. bmasters9

    Is it the current CBS style which I have on The Streets of San Francisco and The Untouchables, among others?

    Yep, it's the "one huge plastic case" that the Complete Series CBS/Wal-Mart are putting out now seem to be going to. Personally, I like them, but like many others I rip all of the episodes to network hard drives and then put the discs away for storage.

    I should get my set today. Has anyone looked at it yet? I'm curious if they used the syndication version of the "Brady Brides" movie with it broken into three parts, or did they use the original movie version? How about the Bradys? Did they use the original versions or the edited into three movie versions?

    I've seen one review on Amazon where the reviewer said they thought there was at least one edit to "Brady Brides"- a musical number being removed.

  63. cpalmer2k

    Yep, it's the "one huge plastic case" that the Complete Series CBS/Wal-Mart are putting out now seem to be going to. Personally, I like them, but like many others I rip all of the episodes to network hard drives and then put the discs away for storage.

    I should get my set today. Has anyone looked at it yet? I'm curious if they used the syndication version of the "Brady Brides" movie with it broken into three parts, or did they use the original movie version? How about the Bradys? Did they use the original versions or the edited into three movie versions?

    I've seen one review on Amazon where the reviewer said they thought there was at least one edit to "Brady Brides"- a musical number being removed.

    Correct, it's just one really big book-style package. As soon as you open it, discs start falling out. It's really nice to have all of this in one collection, but it'll sure be a pain to navigate thru such a mess of a package.

    I have not viewed anything from it yet. My schedule is pretty busy coming up, so not sure when I'll be able to get to it, but hopefully over the next few weeks I can start delving in.

  64. Deep Discount has it for $50, plus and additional 10% this week. I figured the packaging was inferior, plus i really dislike the cover art. My only reason for buying it is for the Brady Brides and The Bradys, so for less than $50 it's a good deal.

  65. Kyrsten Brad

    Well here it is, the 50th Anniversary of The Brady Bunch premiere and no Blu-ray.

    Curses Be Upon you Paramount Suits!:angry:

    But we did get "The Brady Brides" on DVD, so that almost makes up for it.

  66. I’m halfway thru the original series. While it’s an exact duplicate of the previous release, it’s fun revisiting these episodes after not seeing them since the initial release of the previous DVDs. Also, with all the interviews going around lately with “A Very Brady Renovation”, it’s fun to see the 6 middle age / senior Brady’s as kids again

  67. Albert71292

    Unfortunately they didn't do any remastering on "The Brady Brides". Looks like they might have used third generation dupes.

    I thought the same while watching it. It is too bad we have to settle for "something, or nothing at all" because the chances this extremely rare series ever surfaces again on physical home media are non-existent.

  68. jim_falconer

    The “Brady-est” Brady Bunch collection arrived today. Awesome collection…terrible packaging

    Are the individual DVD's in good condition?

    Is the packaging bad for storage or just hard to get to specific DVD's?

  69. crowe-t

    Is the packaging bad for storage or just hard to get to specific DVD's?

    It's just difficult to get to whatever DVD you want, because you have to remove the discs that surround the one you want, get the one you want, then replace the ones you just took out– it'll take some getting used to.

  70. bmasters9

    It's just difficult to get to whatever DVD you want, because you have to remove the discs that surround the one you want, get the one you want, then replace the ones you just took out– it'll take some getting used to.

    The Bewitched Complete Series DVD set from Sony is like this too. It has 2 spindles that hold 33 discs.

  71. Those cases aren’t wonderful from an ease of access perspective (terrible for cherry picking one-off episodes) but at least they condense a whole lot of discs into a small amount of shelf space.

    I’ve yet to have a disc damaged by one of them but they are clearly better suited for people who watch a series in order from start to finish vs wanting easy access to individual episodes.

  72. BobO’Link

    Even if you watch start-to-finish there are issues with those stacked disc pages. You'll either be removing some discs frequently to get to bottom ones or you'll have to leave discs out while those below are being watched. I can tolerate a single overlapping disc – it's inconvenient but not that bad. If I had to remove 2, or more, on the top stack and *then* one or more on the bottom to get to another disc I'd be saying bad things about the person who designed such a system. I think I'd rather deal with a couple of large spindles than these multi-disc spindle with overlapping disc affairs.

    That's a great point! Truth is, however, that Streets was such a remarkable show (all three major players [Malden, Douglas and Hatch] contributing mightily to that]) that I was more than willing to overlook how difficult the packaging was to work with in this release, and therefore I have deemed it more than worth the money.

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