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I am not here to crap on these Sony mega box releases. I know how many people enjoy them.
My personal take however is that the sets are very, very expensive and would normally be a huge draw if the films offered weren't all over the place.
There could be up to five really good titles and then they throw in one or two that you can't quite figure out why they have been included.
If you wait long enough you could probably pick these up as singles one day though to date, only DR. STRANGELOVE has been released as a single from the original set.
My personal take however is that the sets are very, very expensive and would normally be a huge draw if the films offered weren't all over the place.
There could be up to five really good titles and then they throw in one or two that you can't quite figure out why they have been included.
If you wait long enough you could probably pick these up as singles one day though to date, only DR. STRANGELOVE has been released as a single from the original set.
I'm a little disappointed in the titles, yet again. There are several movies more deserving of 4K than Stripes or Anatomy of a Murder. I'm not saying they are bad films - but do they really need 4K and HDR?
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This is so disappointing. It's so long overdue for the Three Stooges to get their own Blu-Ray boxset. The DVDs were great for their time but that was 10-15 years ago now.
It's very irritating to see Sony relegate these shorts as extras or bonuses. Six Stooge shorts are extras on a Noir set that's region B locked, and here they put Disorder in the Court, a public domain short. These Stooge shorts are main attractions and some of the most valuable assets in Sony's catalog.
It's nice to see the Chase shorts and Umpa but Man Bites Lovebug is one of the weakest shorts Chase made at Columbia (I've seen all of them). Instead of having these miscellaneous shorts as extras, they should put out a separate set of non-Stooge shorts... even if it's just a best of over a few discs. Charley Chase, Buster Keaton, Harry Langdon.... it's long overdue for the Langdon's to see the light of day.
It's very irritating to see Sony relegate these shorts as extras or bonuses. Six Stooge shorts are extras on a Noir set that's region B locked, and here they put Disorder in the Court, a public domain short. These Stooge shorts are main attractions and some of the most valuable assets in Sony's catalog.
It's nice to see the Chase shorts and Umpa but Man Bites Lovebug is one of the weakest shorts Chase made at Columbia (I've seen all of them). Instead of having these miscellaneous shorts as extras, they should put out a separate set of non-Stooge shorts... even if it's just a best of over a few discs. Charley Chase, Buster Keaton, Harry Langdon.... it's long overdue for the Langdon's to see the light of day.
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...and were some of these on the list of titles Sony wanted feedback on a year or two ago when considering the future of their 4k output?!
I mean, who gave them feedback that they wanted to see THE SOCIAL NETWORK in glorious 4k UHD?
I mean, who gave them feedback that they wanted to see THE SOCIAL NETWORK in glorious 4k UHD?
dukiejosh54
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Wow Oliver! In 4k. Did they end up releasing these as individual releases with the first set? I'm mostly just interested in Oliver.
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Only one thus far and it was a rather long wait to get DR. STRANGELOVE, the only title out of that set, released as a 4k single
I'm of the same opinion, Ron. I did buy the first set (at a great price) and don't regret it at all, but this second release contains even fewer films that interest me than the initial box did. I wish that Columbia would select the included titles for these based on different criteria. It's like subscribing to cable or satellite TV - you have to pay for 120 channels you'll probably never watch just to get the dozen or so you really want.
I don't know, but apparently the first set sold well enough for them to stick with the formula, as misguided as it seems to be.
dukiejosh54
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Damn, such a weird mix of movies. They could of at least put Oliver in a box set with other Sony musicals. I think these would sell a lot better individually.
I’m really looking forward to seeing “Oliver!” in the 4K/UHD format; which also is touting a full restoration “from the Original Camera Negative”.
Not at all a deal-breaker if absent, but I would be highly interested in knowing if Grover Crisp and his team had located the lost stems.
Surprised to not see the presence of another Best Picture winner; or another companion musical, such as “1776” or “Funny Girl”; but, nonetheless, I see 4 out of 6 desirable titles in this set that makes it worthy of my purchase and support.
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Not at all a deal-breaker if absent, but I would be highly interested in knowing if Grover Crisp and his team had located the lost stems.
Surprised to not see the presence of another Best Picture winner; or another companion musical, such as “1776” or “Funny Girl”; but, nonetheless, I see 4 out of 6 desirable titles in this set that makes it worthy of my purchase and support.
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Keith Cobby
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I'm still waiting for singles from the first set, this second set is an even easier pass.
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"1776" is available in 4k digital...
...but here is where Sony screwed up with that...
They only offer the theatrical cut. The hugely anticipated extended cut they went out of their way to offer to fans as had been requested for years on end is non-existent in that format. Sony could have offered both on digital and they didn't.
I suspect that when Sony releases "1776" to disc they will offer both versions in that format knowing the popularity. And, if they had included it in this set, I would have bought the whole damn thing knowing how much of a mixed bag this offering is.
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Ron, how are these sets 'very, very expensive' ? Anybody with access to this forum likely found the first box for $100 which is less than $20 per title. Expensive if you're only buying it to get one title, but otherwise a pretty good deal if you have very wide taste in films. I really only wanted 4 of the six titles in box # 1 but was more than happy to watch the other two in 4k Atmos since they were still terrific films.
In Sony's defense, the titles chosen for this set were based on customer surveys. That and available elements, which may be the case with 1776.
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It seems odd for Taxi Driver to not be available day 1 individually.
Many said the same thing about Lawrence of Arabia from volume one.
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It's very expensive if you are not interested in all the films being offered, which I imagine a lot of people aren't.
If there were six solid films that I felt would really benefit from the 4k treatment to want to upgrade, then absolutely, worth it.
Despite the survey, it seems highly unlikely that those who voted for “Stripes” and “ The Social Network” would also be of the same viewership who are willing to commit to a bundle purchasing of “Oliver!”, “Anatomy of a Murder” or “Sense and Sensibility”, as well.
ONLY “Taxi Driver” seems to be the clear bridge between both groups and appeals.
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