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I watched the HD Digital on iTunes this morning. I need to compare the Blu-ray to the digital as the latter looks better than what I remembered of the BD. Perhaps, my mind/memory is playing tricks on me. Also, I'm hoping iTunes upgrades it to 4K.
 

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I watched the HD Digital on iTunes this morning. I need to compare the Blu-ray to the digital as the latter looks better than what I remembered of the BD. Perhaps, my mind/memory is playing tricks on me. Also, I'm hoping iTunes upgrades it to 4K.
Yes, I'm rooting for a 4K digital release on iTunes as well. Robert, I'll keep my eyes peeled in case you report back on whether the HD digital looks better than the current Blu-ray. Thanks!
 
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I think the present Blu-ray looks beautiful, as good or better than any of the VistaVision Hitchcocks in the Universal set. If your digital version morphs into 4K, please let us know!
I watched the "Thief" BD back in 2015 and also thought it looked great.

Probably a little room for improvement - like the removal of the minor print damage that persisted - but can't imagine it'll be a big step up in quality...
 

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If it isn't a reasonable increase in quality then Paramount are wasting their time. Continual reissues with new packaging won't work. What us disc fans want are previously unreleased films and/or UHD discs.

My fear is that this could be very short-lived. Paramount has run a similar program(s) before that didn't go beyond a few select titles. However, in fairness, I think they were titles already previously released.

There's definitely a small group of us that will buy these titles, but we still face the public-at-large who are only buying first-run releases and even then, available store storage racks are becoming more and more limited.

Let's keep our fingers crossed...
 

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Ordered. I’m supporting this for future physical releases.

I’ll buy a new version of airplane too!

I would’ve preferred 4k UHd releases as well.

paramount seems to be going all in on 4k digital releases for catalog titles?

Beverly Hills cop, Star Trek wrath of khan (?), war of the worlds...all in 4K digital only.
 

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Film stock in the 1970s and 1980s was not as sharp as in later years or as brightly lit and colorful as the years before it. On some level, though I hated to see an iconic and formerly innovative company brought to its knees, Kodak's bankruptcy is karma for all the corners they cut (and also for letting others profit off things they invented). They could have invented low-fade film stock years earlier than they did but subjected film labs, cinematographers, and directors to those crummy Color Reversal Intermediates. Bruce Kimmel could tell you stories since he was lucky to have one for The First Nudie Musical, which Paramount no longer owns.

But in real-world terms, how much of an improvement would 4k be for most movies from that era?
 
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Ordered. I’m supporting this for future physical releases.

I’ll buy a new version of airplane too!

I would’ve preferred 4k UHd releases as well.

paramount seems to be going all in on 4k digital releases for catalog titles?

Beverly Hills cop, Star Trek wrath of khan (?), war of the worlds...all in 4K digital only.

Matthew,

To risk a single person getting upset by me saying this..

Digital downloading is the future. The studios are obviously seeing they can move more titles through that venue at a much lower price point than release 4k discs.

At least that is the trend at this very point in time.
 
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The decline of big-box retailers is cutting down on impulse purchases. Those help fuel the sales of things like these.

If It's A Wonderful Life didn't sell well on UHD, then it's conceivable the contrast problem contributed to that. Grease had both 4k and UHD. I don't see why dual format discs at a $25 price point would be too objectionable. You say UHD is a niche, but without more content people actually want to buy, that statement is a self-fulfilling prophesy

But what about the special features on disc? Do they get carried over to the 4k digital downloads?
 

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The decline of big-box retailers is cutting down on impulse purchases. Those help fuel the sales of things like these.

If It's A Wonderful Life didn't sell well on UHD, then it's conceivable the contrast problem contributed to that. Grease had both 4k and UHD. I don't see why dual format discs at a $25 price point would be too objectionable. You say UHD is a niche, but without more content people actually want to buy, that statement is a self-fulfilling prophesy

But what about the special features on disc? Do they get carried over to the 4k digital downloads?
I bought it’s a wonderful life on UHd Blu Ray. I wanted to support the format.
I will continue to purchase paramount UHd Blu ray discs. I bought the kelvin UHd Blu-ray set and mission impossible box set as well.

I have come to realize that it appears most catalog titles will only be released from paramount on 4k digital.

in the coming months I plan on buying a 4k Apple TV device as well.
Wrath of khan and war of the worlds are 2 titles that I will purchase right away.

If to catch a thief and airplane come to UHd Blu ray I will purchase them again as well. As it stands I believe the best chance of seeing these in the 4k format will be digital only.

the market is changing. I’d like to hold out on UHd Blu Ray disc releases but it appears that paramount is moving to mainly 4k digital releases of catalog titles.

all that being said I am disappointed as I would much rather purchase the discs. That’s just me.

I think paramount should offer choice to consumers. Even if the UHd Blu ray titles are retailer exclusives.

I hope that paramount will eventually join movies anywhere as well.
 

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If the 4k versions are digital downloads only I'll gladly stick with discs. If they get rid of discs, I'll gladly stop watching movies altogether. I cut Disney out of my life, I'll gladly do the same for any other major studio.

Universal's UHD disc of E.T. is $15 on Scamazon now. That sounds more than reasonable to me. How much more expensive is it to press a UHD disc than a Blu-ray?
 
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If the 4k versions are digital downloads only I'll gladly stick with discs. If they get rid of discs, I'll gladly stop watching movies altogether. I cut Disney out of my life, I'll gladly do the same for any other major studio.
That's certainly easier said than done.

I can say in confidence as long as you have a decent Internet speed, it's probably impossible to tell the 4k digital from the disc.

But, I get it, people have different wants and needs. If you plan to eventually stop watching films altogether, that's your choice.
 
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1080p upconverted to 4k can look very sharp, natural, and film-like without being artificial. If that's all we get in physical media, than that's still something. It just feels like an unfair trade-off. That doesn't mean they won't make you double-dip again later. They did it before, they'll do it again.

I can say in confidence as long as you have a decent Internet speed, it's probably impossible to tell the 4k digital from the disc.
Not everyone has decent internet speed. Even mine still had trouble bouncing between resolutions when I watched Netflix or Hulu.
 

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When are they releasing Saturday Night Fever in 4K UHD ? I never cared for Grease and that they released for it's 40th anniversary.
 
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When are they releasing Saturday Night Fever in 4K UHD ? I never cared for Grease and that they released for it's 40th anniversary.
I don't think Saturday Night Fever is in 4k digital. I once checked. I could be wrong and it is now available.

I would think we will see a 4k disc release within the next year. It's that popular.

And, who is saying that the 4k we are being offered digitally is upconverted 1080p?
 
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I was talking about watching a Blu-ray disc on a 4k setup. My assumption is that they start with a 4K master and downsample it to 1080p for that format. Wouldn’t it save time and money just to do dual-format versions with a single SKU?
 

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I was talking about watching a Blu-ray disc on a 4k setup. My assumption is that they start with a 4K master and downsample it to 1080p for that format. Wouldn’t it save time and money just to do dual-format versions with a single SKU?
Okay. Thanks for clarifying that.
 
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Not a big deal, it’s just I should’ve mentioned that this 1080p source was a Blu-ray. It could easily have been from YouTube since even they offer a 4k option now. But I still feel like the quality of 1080p streaming is kind of an interim level between DVD and Blu-ray. At least with a disc, the resolution stays the same throughout. This is true no matter if it’s 480i, 576p, 1080p, or 4k.

As for Saturday Night Fever, wouldn’t they already have a 4K master since they did that Fathom screening for the directors cut?