Oppo Bids Farewell

In today’s news is the shock announcement that Oppo Digital – the undisputed stalwarts and standard-bearers for high-quality Blu-ray and multi-disc players – is ceasing manufacture. Apparently the company no longer has ‘the resources’ to develop and release new products. There are two threads related to this already here on the forum, but here is Oppo’s statement in full:

FAREWELL

It has been 14 years since we established OPPO Digital in the United States, and with the support of our customers, technical partners, and movie/music studios, we produced many award-winning Hi-Fi audio products and universal disc players, spanning three generations from DVD, Blu-ray, to 4K UHD.

As our latest 4K UHD players reach the pinnacle of their performance, it is time to say goodbye. We are proud to have made such well-regarded products and to have served the enthusiast community. Without our customers’ suggestions, encouragement, and support, we could not have accomplished these achievements.

Though OPPO Digital will gradually stop manufacturing new products, existing products will continue to be supported, warranties will still be valid, and both in-warranty and out-of-warranty repair services will continue to be available. Firmware will continue to be maintained and updates released from time to time. Customers can rest assured that they will continue to receive the high quality service and support that they have come to expect from OPPO Digital.

We greatly appreciate the opportunity to have developed such exciting products for our customers. It has been an honor.

Best regards,

All of us at OPPO Digital

Frequently Asked Questions:

As announced on April 2nd, 2018, OPPO Digital will gradually stop manufacturing new products. Existing products will continue to be supported, warranties will still be valid, and both in-warranty and out-of-warranty repair services will continue to be available. Firmware will continue to be maintained and updates released from time to time. Customers can rest assured that they will continue to receive the high quality service and support that they have come to expect from OPPO Digital. The following FAQ provides answers to questions that may arise from the announcement.

How do I receive technical support for my OPPO product?

Technical support will continue to be available. Please visit the product support page on the OPPO Digital web site (https://www.oppodigital.com/Support.aspx) for self-guided support, and use the following contact form to submit your customer service request: https://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx

How do I set up in-warranty or out-of-warranty repair service for my OPPO product?

Repair service will remain available for OPPO Digital products. Please use the following contact form to submit your repair service request: https://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx

Will there still be firmware upgrades for my OPPO products?

Yes, products will continue to receive firmware upgrades from time to time when new features or bug fixes warrant such an upgrade. Newer products such as the UDP-203 and UDP-205 will likely receive more frequent upgrades while mature products such as the BDP-103 and earlier models will only get firmware upgrades if there are critical fixes. If your player is connected to the Internet, you can check for firmware upgrades by going to the Setup Menu / Device Setup / Firmware Upgrade / Via Network. New firmware will also be posted on the support pages of the corresponding products (https://www.oppodigital.com/Support.aspx)

I purchased my OPPO product less than 30 days ago. Am I still able to return it for a refund?

OPPO Digital continues to offer its 30-day Money Back Guarantee for products purchased directly from OPPO Digital within the last 30 days. If you would like to return your product for a refund, please use the following contact form to submit your refund request: https://www.oppodigital.com/ContactUs.aspx

I am still interested in OPPO’s products – how can I purchase one?

OPPO Digital’s products can still be purchased through the OPPO Digital web site, OPPO Digital’s authorized resellers and OPPO Digital’s overseas distributors. As we gradually stop manufacturing new products, certain models may go out of stock and no longer be available sooner than other models.

Will OPPO Digital develop and release future generation of products?

From now on, OPPO Digital will focus our main effort on organizing and ensuring long term support for the existing generation of products. As such, we will not have the resources to develop and release new generations of products.

 

 

 

 

 

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269 Comments

  1. Wow, now THAT is a surprise! This is terrible news.

    I wouldn't be too sure about being able to sell at a profit. While Oppo is currently saying that their existing products will continue to have support and warranty coverage, there is no guarantee that they can honor that in the future.

  2. dpippel

    Wow, now THAT is a surprise! This is terrible news.

    I wouldn't be too sure about being able to sell at a profit. While Oppo is currently saying that their existing products will continue to have support and warranty coverage, there is no guarantee that they can honor that in the future.

    Idiots were buying the 103D for $900 when the 203 came out. Never lack faith in the stupidity of your fellow man! Now, of course oppo was still around, but I have seen this movie before. Once they dry up, you will see people buying them left and right for way more than $549.

    I'll prob just wait and sell my for more, this will push me into the UB9000. If anything we will stop getting FW updates, and that I am not happy about with UHD disc quirks.

  3. Wow, this is a surprise. I was considering buying their UHD player in a few months, but this announcement will probably have me looking elsewhere. While Oppo says they will be maintaining firmware, you have to wonder how long that will last. With no new income, staff will move on to other opportunities.

  4. Scott Merryfield

    Wow, this is a surprise. I was considering buying their UHD player in a few months, but this announcement will probably have me looking elsewhere. While Oppo says they will be maintaining firmware, you have to wonder how long that will last. With no new income, staff will move on to other opportunities.

    I could not agree more.

    The gravity defying resale value of Oppo players was predicated on the fact that their service was second to none, and you could get any generation player repaired at reasonable cost.

    I have a 93 which is still in service, but I don’t see a 203 or 205 in my future. The state of play in the HT video space is still in flux, and at some point, they will disconnect the phones.

  5. Scott Merryfield

    Wow, this is a surprise. I was considering buying their UHD player in a few months, but this announcement will probably have me looking elsewhere. While Oppo says they will be maintaining firmware, you have to wonder how long that will last. With no new income, staff will move on to other opportunities.

    Possibly not if they scoped out a new market to move into. Sometimes small companies like this stay together because, as a team, they like working together. They're engineers. Quite possibly they are already progressing in a new market, and see the player market as nothing more than a legacy system they will maintain along as it maintains some cash flow.

  6. As far as I'm concerned this is really disappointing news as they produced great products and provide service which is second to none! Probably will buy another 203 before it's too late. However I would like to understand why they are shutting down as it's not clear to me – not making enough profit to finance further development ? Want to pursue other more profitable/newer technologies as the 4K market moves to a lower profit basis ? Just want to tend to the garden ? (That's fine as well 🙂 ) Or ..?

    Regards,

  7. mattCR

    You have to wonder though what they do with their intellectual property. You have to figure someone out there is a buyer for the company's design schematics if nothing else.

    I would be quite surprised if anybody would still be interested in their old dvd and/or bluray player intellectual properties.

    In the case of 4Kbluray, the question is how similar was their player design to other bog standard generic 4Kbluray players (ie. LG, Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, etc …).

  8. Really a surprise for me! I've never owned an Oppo player, but I always assumed one day I would get one for its vast array of features. Never even considered they wouldn't be around selling their premium machines. Big, big shock over this.

  9. OK, I can't be the only one asking a question… that's treading on the line of what discussion is allowed on HTF. Consider current events and trends. The timing seems like a mighty bigly coincidence.

  10. JohnRice

    OK, I can't be the only one asking a question… that's treading on the line of what discussion is allowed on HTF. Consider current events and trends. It's probably just due to poor management, but the timing seems like a mighty bigly coincidence.

    As in Oppo's parent company being more interested in cell phones than bluray players? 😉

  11. jcroy

    As in Oppo's parent company being more interested in cell phones than bluray players? 😉

    The two companies are completely unrelated. Oppo Digital is an American company.

    Correction… they are the same company. I had no idea. My original comment seems even more likely to me now.

  12. In regards to recent events having to do with this, I've heard the company decided to do this last year but nobody was allowed to disclose that until now.

    Regardless, this just plain sucks- they were one of the last quality-minded electronics companies out there, and I'd hoped they would've eventually made a no-nonsense display (not a TV) that kept in line with their other products.

  13. When we were travelling through China last year huge Oppo displays in Mandarin and English were extremely prominent at Guangzhou Airport. And all the copious advertising was for cellphones. I think they have just decided China is their home and premium market.

  14. I've been putting off my Oppo purchase due to our recent move and I wanted to get closer to our planned purchase of a new big-screen UHD TV (Vizio 75" M-Series). This news is quite depressing and now I may have to consider Sony's UBP-X700 player, region-free of course.

    That and two more months and I could have bought the Oppo on credit card points alone.

    Anyone want to convince me to stay the course for the Oppo in the face of this shutdown?

  15. Kyrsten Brad

    I've been putting off my Oppo purchase due to our recent move and I wanted to get closer to our planned purchase of a new big-screen UHD TV (Vizio 75" M-Series). This news is quite depressing and now I may have to consider Sony's UBP-X700 player, region-free of course.

    That and two more months and I could have bought the Oppo on credit card points alone.

    Anyone want to convince me to stay the course for the Oppo in the face of this shutdown?

    I am in a similar position, Brad. While I already have a Sony X800 UHD player, I had planned on upgrading to something with Dolby Vision support and moving the Sony from the main home theater to our master bedroom. I was leaning heavily towards the Oppo, as I own one of their 980H DVD players which still gets used, and Oppo's player is one of the few current models which supports both SACD and DVD-Audio. I was waiting for a couple of things: (1) building up Amazon credits via my credit card (similar to you), and (2) reviews and feedback on Panasonic's new players, which will be available supposedly in June (I've had great luck with Panny DVD and BD players).

    Everyone has to decide how much risk they are willing to take under these circumstances, but I won't be buying an Oppo UHD player based on this news. One of Oppo's strong points has been their service and support, and I cannot see how that will be maintained at the same level anymore, despite the company's promise of continued support. The 4k/UHD technology is still in it's "bleeding edge" stage, so support is even more important than with a more established format such as Blu-ray or DVD.

  16. For the tin foil hat theory, posters at AVS that have been accurate before said this decision was made last year. Certain folks do not want to admit it, but the 203 launch was rough, they had bugs well over 90 days in (marketing wanted it released to early?), took them forever to get HDMI in working right, and they still do not have their HDR to SDR conversion right (UB900 has been doing this for 2 years). The drive's are wonky and there have been plenty of returns.

    I think they bit off more than they could chew trying to maintain the "play everything" drive with the new UHD format. I do not see pricing as a big deal, they have had their following for years, with people buying the 93, 103 and 103D when Sonys were $99. There is more to it. I felt at $549 this was their most fairly priced player yet considering all it does.

  17. Are they nuts?!!! They are taking away the goals of people like me who are trying to save and keep up with the excellence of our HTF aficionados who have inspired me for quite some time. I almost got their $550 player, but opted to go for the ultimate perfection of the $1,200.00 player.

    Which model now will prove to be my best OPPOrtunity?:unsure:

  18. Presumeably they will be able to be imported from China. If the potential niche market is big enough surely some bright distributor will import in bulk. Unless of course OPPO is getting out the player market worldwide and concentrating on Mobile Phones in China and India.

  19. I can't remember who the company was, but didn't someone use the guts of the old Oppo BDP-83 and make it look real fancy on the outside at some point in time (early in the lifecycle of that product)? Maybe someone will do the same thing with the current Oppo line up. Unfortunately they'll be marked up quite a bit with that luxury nameplate on the case…

  20. skylark68

    I can't remember who the company was, but didn't someone use the guts of the old Oppo BDP-83 and make it look real fancy on the outside at some point in time (early in the lifecycle of that product)? Maybe someone will do the same thing with the current Oppo line up. Unfortunately they'll be marked up quite a bit with that luxury nameplate on the case…

    That was Lexicon. Pretty big scandal at the time.

  21. Scott Merryfield

    Wow, this is a surprise. I was considering buying their UHD player in a few months, but this announcement will probably have me looking elsewhere. While Oppo says they will be maintaining firmware, you have to wonder how long that will last. With no new income, staff will move on to other opportunities.

    Same here and I have the same reaction as you too. I don't like owning unsupported products and it would just be a matter of time.

    Very sad news as I had been salivating over the 203 since its release. 🙁

  22. stuartfanning

    Presumeably they will be able to be imported from China. If the potential niche market is big enough surely some bright distributor will import in bulk. Unless of course OPPO is getting out the player market worldwide and concentrating on Mobile Phones in China and India.

    Oppo's announcement said they will cease manufacturing products. If they don't make a product, there is nothing to import.

  23. One of the reasons Oppo has been so successful with their disc players is because they occupy a niche that no one else really does. They are a Swiss army knife, and lots of customers like that.

  24. RobertR

    The 9000 looks good, but it won't satisfy the "I love OPPO because it supports all my favorite formats" people.

    When one goes out of business, then one can no longer lay claim to supporting any format, at all.;)
    Now, with that said, I'm hearing 2 votes for the Panasonic 9000…am I hearing any others for the same?:)

  25. Matt Hough

    Most people are banking on the Panasonic 9000.

    RobertR

    The 9000 looks good, but it won't satisfy the "I love OPPO because it supports all my favorite formats" people.

    BTW, did you both mean 900?

  26. RobertR

    No, there's a new flagship called the 9000.

    https://www.techradar.com/news/panasonics-new-high-end-blu-ray-player-sets-oppo-in-its-sights

    Many thanks, RobertR. Yah, I just went to your supplied link and – in their own words – they wrote "not to be confused with the 900". Looks like its too late, Panasonic; the confusion by one digit, alone, has already begun. Makes one wonder why they simply didn't call it the 9001. Again, so sad to see Oppo go; but, hey, I'm not going to invest any further energies on mourning or being a part of any run on an exiting model. Panasonic was there before and will remain, thereafter; so I, myself, will go to where there's long-term support. Plus the end of 2018 is when the Panasonic 9000 is due to be out, which now gives me plenty of financial time to prepare.

    My best regards to Oppo and my thanks for raising the standard.:thumbs-up-smiley:

  27. It'll be interesting to see if the new Panasonic models can be made region free as easily as the Oppo players. I doubt it. The only way their current players can go down that road is by installing hacked firmware.

    Easy region free modification is one thing that's always set Oppo apart for me. Converted my UDP-203 to region free for $50, and it will truly play anything I throw at it. I don't think there's another player on the market that has it all in one box like the 203 does. I'm sorry to see them go.

  28. Scott Merryfield

    Panasonic is also coming out with a UB820 model which is supposed to support Dolby Vision and HDR10+. This unit should be much lower priced than the new flagship 9000.

    Yes, it seems that the only difference between them is that the 820 lacks the "audiophile" features of the 9000.

  29. It is bizarre for a company to just come out of the blue that I thought was doing so well just to all of a sudden say they are calling it quits. They talk about support of customers, studios, technical partners and producing award winning products and that there latest 4K players have reached the pinnacle of their performance. But then it is time to say goodbye. So what actually happened? No company says we have reached the best we can do and it is time to call it quits! There has to be a reason they are not telling us! If they have run out of capitol to keep coming out with new product what happened to this 14 year old company? I have to say that even though I do not own any Oppo gear I was planning on upgrading my Samsung 4K player to a Oppo after I upgraded my Pioneer Elite receiver to a Marantz. So now I find myself wondering what player am I going to get now that Oppo is calling it quits? Something is not right in how this just came out and as far as I can see out of nowhere!

    So anyone who was planning to get an Oppo 4K player later this year before this announcement? What player will you go with now? What player out there will come close to the Oppo?

    Farewell
    It has been 14 years since we established OPPO Digital in the United States, and with the support of our customers, technical partners, and movie/music studios, we produced many award-winning Hi-Fi audio products and universal disc players, spanning three generations from DVD, Blu-ray, to 4K UHD.

    As our latest 4K UHD players reach the pinnacle of their performance, it is time to say goodbye. We are proud to have made such well-regarded products and to have served the enthusiast community. Without our customers' suggestions, encouragement, and support, we could not have accomplished these achievements.

    Though OPPO Digital will gradually stop manufacturing new products, existing products will continue to be supported, warranties will still be valid, and both in-warranty and out-of-warranty repair services will continue to be available. Firmware will continue to be maintained and updates released from time to time. Customers can rest assured that they will continue to receive the high quality service and support that they have come to expect from OPPO Digital.

    We greatly appreciate the opportunity to have developed such exciting products for our customers. It has been an honor.

    Best regards,

    All of us at OPPO Digital

  30. PMF

    BTW, did you both mean 900?

    I didn't. The 900 is already out and doesn't support Dolby Vision. The 9000 is supposed to be their top of the line model for 2018. The 820 is the step-down model. Both will have Dolby Vision, but neither is certain to be sold on this side of the world. We're waiting to find that out.

  31. Dave Moritz

    There has to be a reason they are not telling us!

    Of course there is. Probably several.

    But why should they tell us? What is, is.

    I went all in last year and bought a 203. I've been absolutely thrilled with the player (I'm one of those guys who listens to SACDs, DVD-As and such) even though I don't yet have a 4k display.

    I'm a little concerned about any future needs of support…but I hope that the player lasts a very long time.

  32. Very bumbed that this company is going away and at some point I hope to have my Pioneer SC-05 replaced with a Marantz receiver with Atmos & X decoding with 4K video switching. After that I will try and focus on upgrading my current Samsung 8500 and the goal was to at least get a Oppo 203 like you purchased. So maybe I will see what else is available or maybe I will seek out a seller that has a Oppo 203 even if it is used, not sure currently.

    I am concerned like you are with future support and that is why I may opt to go with another brand. But my main goal is to get my Pioneer Elite SC-05 replaced as soon as I can.

    Upgrade Plans
    Marantz SR 6012 or SR7012 Receiver
    Oppo 203 4K Player or ???
    Bowers & Wilkens Bookshelf Speakers for rear channel
    4K Projector or 82" – 85" 4K UHD TV to replace current 55" Samsung 4K UHD TV

  33. Dave Moritz

    So anyone who was planning to get an Oppo 4K player later this year before this announcement? What player will you go with now? What player out there will come close to the Oppo?

    I was planning on getting an Oppo 203 later this summer as a Dolby Vision upgrade and moving my Sony X800 to our master bedroom. With this announcement, I am awaiting news on the Panasonic UB820 — the 9000 will be overkill for me, especially since I don't think it supports SACD and DVD-Audio. If I get the Panny, I may leave the Sony X800 in my main setup for its SACD/DVD-A capabilities and instead relocate my old Panasonic BD player out of that system to the bedroom. My wife is the only one who uses a disc player in the bedroom, and on the rare occasion she uses it the films she watches are not on UHD anyway. It's just that the Sony BD player in that room is an early generation model which is slow loading discs and is getting a little noisy. I also have an Oppo 980H in my main system that can be used for SACD/DVD-A, but it's getting old so I'd like to have a 2nd option for those formats.

  34. As somebody as already mentioned, on top being quality products (build, performance, service, functionality …) it is very easy to enable them to be multi region – since I have an increasingly larger Region B collection then this an additional critical reason for me as to why I will buy another 203 while I can. Definitely share the concerns of the future availability of firmware upgrades but I am happy to roll the dice on this one.

    Regards,

  35. Dave Moritz

    […]No company says we have reached the best we can do and it is time to call it quits![…]

    Daniel Day-Lewis did the same last year. They must be neighbors.

  36. John Dirk

    I don't like owning unsupported products and it would just be a matter of time.

    I would be thinking the same thing if it was a complicated "swiss army knife" premium disc player like Oppos.

    For something generic such as a cheapo Sony/LG/Samsung or a lawnmower, toaster, etc … I probably wouldn't care as much about it being "unsupported" after the warranty expires. Basically throw away the old toaster when it dies, and buy a new one.

  37. If anything I have "dies" when it's not very old, its replacement does NOT come from the same company. Some of my equipment is now over 30 years old and still working, I won't reward a company for cutting costs and making stuff so cheap it doesn't even last a fraction of that.

  38. Jonathan Perregaux

    With this news, I finally pulled the trigger and ordered the 203, shipping this week. Fare thee well, Oppo. *Salutes their sinking ship*

    I own three different OPPO player models which are 93, 103 and 203. With this news, I decided to retire my 93 player and buy another 203 model that I'll place in my bedroom and move my 103 model to my Office HT setup.

  39. SAhmed

    I pulled the trigger on my second 203 yesterday – should be here tomorrow! The region free kit should be here Monday.

    Regards,

    Where did you order your region free kit? Is it the external one?

    Thanks

  40. Randy_M

    Where did you order your region free kit? Is it the external one?

    Thanks

    Yes its the external one from the seller, GradeExchange, on Ebay – I have bought and successfully used their kits ( 93, 203 ) before without any issues. Very easy to install.

    Regards,

  41. Robert Crawford

    I own three different OPPO player models which are 93, 103 and 203. With this news, I decided to retire my 93 player and buy another 203 model that I'll place in my bedroom and move my 103 model to my Office HT setup.

    SAhmed

    I pulled the trigger on my second 203 yesterday – should be here tomorrow! The region free kit should be here Monday.

    Regards,

    I trust by now that both of you have seen my Want Ad upon this thread. Jealous and yet inspired.

  42. SAhmed

    I pulled the trigger on my second 203 yesterday – should be here tomorrow! The region free kit should be here Monday.

    Regards,

    Yeah, I bought my third of the exact same Mod Kit on Ebay too. It's the same Mod Kit used on the 103/105 models.

  43. Hey guys, this is amazing news. I’m really surprised Oppo is shutting down. Seems the best guess everyone is saying is downloads and the end of physical media is the reason.

    I was going to wait a bit before picking up a 4K player as I’m not set up yet. But I’m thinking of just getting one now while I can. I have the Oppo 105 since it was released and it’s been working great! I’ve only done two firmware updates. Haven’t checked recently if any new updates are out but I might check now.

    With this news, I’m considering picking up the 205. I bought my 105 from Best Buy but I see they do not carry Oppo anymore after doing a search on their app.

    How are you guys buying your players? Direct from Oppo?

  44. Hey guys, this is amazing news. I’m really surprised Oppo is shutting down. Seems the best guess everyone is saying is downloads and the end of physical media is the reason.

    I was going to wait a bit before picking up a 4K player as I’m not set up yet. But I’m thinking of just getting one now while I can. I have the Oppo 105 since it was released and it’s been working great! I’ve only done two firmware updates. Haven’t checked recently if any new updates are out but I might check now.

    With this news, I’m considering picking up the 205. I bought my 105 from Best Buy but I see they do not carry Oppo anymore after doing a search on their app.

    How are you guys buying your players? Direct from Oppo?

  45. Hey guys, this is amazing news. I’m really surprised Oppo is shutting down. Seems the best guess everyone is saying is downloads and the end of physical media is the reason.

    I was going to wait a bit before picking up a 4K player as I’m not set up yet. But I’m thinking of just getting one now while I can. I have the Oppo 105 since it was released and it’s been working great! I’ve only done two firmware updates. Haven’t checked recently if any new updates are out but I might check now.

    With this news, I’m considering picking up the 205. I bought my 105 from Best Buy but I see they do not carry Oppo anymore after doing a search on their app.

    How are you guys buying your players? Direct from Oppo?

  46. Hey guys, this is amazing news. I’m really surprised Oppo is shutting down. Seems the best guess everyone is saying is downloads and the end of physical media is the reason.

    I was going to wait a bit before picking up a 4K player as I’m not set up yet. But I’m thinking of just getting one now while I can. I have the Oppo 105 since it was released and it’s been working great! I’ve only done two firmware updates. Haven’t checked recently if any new updates are out but I might check now.

    With this news, I’m considering picking up the 205. I bought my 105 from Best Buy but I see they do not carry Oppo anymore after doing a search on their app.

    How are you guys buying your players? Direct from Oppo?

  47. Hey guys, this is amazing news. I’m really surprised Oppo is shutting down. Seems the best guess everyone is saying is downloads and the end of physical media is the reason.

    I was going to wait a bit before picking up a 4K player as I’m not set up yet. But I’m thinking of just getting one now while I can. I have the Oppo 105 since it was released and it’s been working great! I’ve only done two firmware updates. Haven’t checked recently if any new updates are out but I might check now.

    With this news, I’m considering picking up the 205. I bought my 105 from Best Buy but I see they do not carry Oppo anymore after doing a search on their app.

    How are you guys buying your players? Direct from Oppo?

  48. Hey guys, this is amazing news. I’m really surprised Oppo is shutting down. Seems the best guess everyone is saying is downloads and the end of physical media is the reason.

    I was going to wait a bit before picking up a 4K player as I’m not set up yet. But I’m thinking of just getting one now while I can. I have the Oppo 105 since it was released and it’s been working great! I’ve only done two firmware updates. Haven’t checked recently if any new updates are out but I might check now.

    With this news, I’m considering picking up the 205. I bought my 105 from Best Buy but I see they do not carry Oppo anymore after doing a search on their app.

    How are you guys buying your players? Direct from Oppo?

  49. Nelson Au

    Hey guys, this is amazing news. I’m really surprised Oppo is shutting down. Seems the best guess everyone is saying is downloads and the end of physical media is the reason.

    I was going to wait a bit before picking up a 4K player as I’m not set up yet. But I’m thinking of just getting one now while I can. I have the Oppo 105 since it was released and it’s been working great! I’ve only done two firmware updates. Haven’t checked recently if any new updates are out but I might check now.

    With this news, I’m considering picking up the 205. I bought my 105 from Best Buy but I see they do not carry Oppo anymore after doing a search on their app.

    How are you guys buying your players? Direct from Oppo?

    I bought mine directly from Oppo right before the announcement. Build quality is amazing.

  50. Nelson Au

    Thanks guys. I’ll look into ordering direct from Oppo. Oppo is up the freeway from me, but I suspect they don’t actually have stock there.

    FYI, the price on Amazon is pretty close to the same, if you have any Amazon credits you want to leverage. That was how I bought my old Oppo 980H DVD player, and how I was planning on buying the 203 before the announcement that they were closing up shop. If you have no Amazon credits, then I think direct from Oppo is a few dollars less expensive, but not by much.

  51. I had never heard of OPPO before joining this community and have never seen a player. I was going to investigate the merits of these high end players but have yet to get around to it.

    I can afford one with no problem, but I would have to convince myself, as does most of the public I expect, that it is worth spending the money, when I can say buy many $50.00 Samsung blu ray players for the same amount as one OPPO and toss them in the trash and replace them when something goes wrong.

    I have had 3 of these cheezie blu ray players for 4 or 5 years and had almost no problem with them. I assume if 4K takes off there will be cheezie ones available as well. Picture quality seems excellent to me also.

  52. I had one year’s ago (BDP-80) and I always ran into disks not playing. I really wasn’t too impressed. I bought it and the model I chose ended up being discontinued as soon as it got to my house nobody mentioned that when I ordered it. I probably would have passed had I known. I ended up buying a Sony that outperformed it in every way and the Spears and Munsil disk also backed me up. It was like a $50 player and that’s kinda sad. I’m sure everyone will roast me for saying it but I owned it and it sucked.

  53. TJPC

    I had never heard of OPPO before joining this community and have never seen a player. I was going to investigate the merits of these high end players but have yet to get around to it.

    I can afford one with no problem, but I would have to convince myself, as does most of the public I expect, that it is worth spending the money, when I can say buy many $50.00 Samsung blu ray players for the same amount as one OPPO and toss them in the trash and replace them when something goes wrong.

    I have had 3 of these cheezie blu ray players for 4 or 5 years and had almost no problem with them. I assume if 4K takes off there will be cheezie ones available as well. Picture quality seems excellent to me also.

    Your not wrong…

  54. Nelson Au

    Hey guys, this is amazing news. I’m really surprised Oppo is shutting down. Seems the best guess everyone is saying is downloads and the end of physical media is the reason.

    I was going to wait a bit before picking up a 4K player as I’m not set up yet. But I’m thinking of just getting one now while I can. I have the Oppo 105 since it was released and it’s been working great! I’ve only done two firmware updates. Haven’t checked recently if any new updates are out but I might check now.

    With this news, I’m considering picking up the 205. I bought my 105 from Best Buy but I see they do not carry Oppo anymore after doing a search on their app.

    How are you guys buying your players? Direct from Oppo?

    I think I bought my 203 from Amazon, but Oppo was the 3rd party seller. Got Prime too.

  55. I considered Oppo a couple times over the years, but could never justify the expense since I'm not into the high-res music formats. For only blu/DVD play, it seemed like there were more economical options.

  56. Nelson Au

    Thanks guys. I’ll look into ordering direct from Oppo. Oppo is up the freeway from me, but I suspect they don’t actually have stock there.

    Actually, you have the option of picking up your player at Menlo Park if you so desire. I would call Oppo to see if that option is actually available to you.

  57. Malcolm R

    I considered Oppo a couple times over the years, but could never justify the expense since I'm not into the high-res music formats. For only blu/DVD play, it seemed like there were more economical options.

    I don't really use the high-res music formats (though Mike Frezon was kind enough to give me an introduction to them), but I find the Oppo enormously useful for its ability to play just about anything. It's great for viewing PAL or 1080/50i or 25p material. I know I can get a region-free player from most brands, but I'd be really upset to lose the conversion abilities built into the Oppo. I don't even know what (if any) other brands can do those conversions that the Oppo can. (Definitely open for suggestions and recommendations on that point.)

    I also appreciate how great an upscaler the machine has for DVDs – standard definition DVDs look better using the Oppo for upconversion than they do from another brand of player.

    I genuinely don't know what to do here. I have the 103, and wasn't planning on upgrading anything to UHD for the foreseeable future. Since UHD is region free, I probably won't need a 203 for UHD playback. But I will need something that can play DVDs and BDs from other regions and other playback formats. I'm just not sure if it's worth spending $500+ now on a machine that I won't be using for several years — that seems like a waste. I'm not completely opposed to the idea but I'm not sure how much sense it makes either.

  58. Something Oppo players don't get enough credit for is their error handling. I have DVDs with bad spots that lock up my other players to the point where the power cable has to be pulled. My Oppos will pause at the bad spot and apparently search ahead for good data and resume there. It's not as good as having a good disc, but if it's OOP it may be as good as you can get.

  59. Josh Steinberg

    …It's great for viewing PAL or 1080/50i or 25p material. I know I can get a region-free player from most brands, but I'd be really upset to lose the conversion abilities built into the Oppo. I don't even know what (if any) other brands can do those conversions that the Oppo can. (Definitely open for suggestions and recommendations on that point.

    I've found LG machines consistently play pretty much everything, including PAL-NTSC and 1080/50-1080/60 conversion. Panasonic and Sony almost never do and Samsung is hit and miss.

  60. Josh Steinberg

    …It's great for viewing PAL or 1080/50i or 25p material. I know I can get a region-free player from most brands, but I'd be really upset to lose the conversion abilities built into the Oppo. I don't even know what (if any) other brands can do those conversions that the Oppo can. (Definitely open for suggestions and recommendations on that point.

    I've found LG machines consistently play pretty much everything, including PAL-NTSC and 1080/50-1080/60 conversion. Panasonic and Sony almost never do and Samsung is hit and miss.

  61. Josh Steinberg

    …It's great for viewing PAL or 1080/50i or 25p material. I know I can get a region-free player from most brands, but I'd be really upset to lose the conversion abilities built into the Oppo. I don't even know what (if any) other brands can do those conversions that the Oppo can. (Definitely open for suggestions and recommendations on that point.

    I've found LG machines consistently play pretty much everything, including PAL-NTSC and 1080/50-1080/60 conversion. Panasonic and Sony almost never do and Samsung is hit and miss.

  62. Worth

    I've found LG machines consistently play pretty much everything, including PAL-NTSC and 1080/50-1080/60 conversion. Panasonic and Sony almost never do and Samsung is hit and miss.

    Now that you mention it, that's my experience with LG and Sony as well. My LG Blu-ray player was pretty decent as far as functionality went, but I absolutely hated the clunky interface and the built-in apps never worked. Still, it makes for a good player for the bedroom TV now that it's been exiled there.

    If it's going to be an Oppo-free future, I might one day just get a decent UHD player, and then buy an LG BD player inexpensively and get it modded, and use that solely for multi-region discs.

    It's probably dumb to buy the 203 right now solely because I'm worried about not having anything to do PAL-NTSC and 1080/50-60 conversions five years from now, right?

    There's a part of me that really wants to just buy the 203 now, but it seems more like an indulgence than a necessity at this point. Who knows how long the 103 might last — I got it in 2014 and it's still working perfectly. I had an Oppo DVD player from 2007-2014 that worked perfectly until the day I sold it. I kinda regret letting it go, actually.

  63. dpippel

    There's nothing wrong with a little indulgence now and again Josh. 😉

    True, but the problem is – the 103 was already my indulgence purchase! Unfortunately, I'm just not sure I can justify this purchase for a need which may never arise for me.

    I think the question has to be – if my Oppo 103 were to die overnight, what would it cost to get that functionality replaced? Would I need to buy multiple machines to handle all of the tasks that it does, or would a lower cost machine basically replicate all of the functionality? And, as much as I hate to admit it, a $100 LG player would probably do the job. So, it's hard to justify spending $500+ just to hedge my bets on a replacement.

    And who knows, maybe when/if I'm in the market for UHD in a couple years, maybe a new company will spring up and produce something as awesome as the Oppo. Or maybe UHD discs will require a firmware update to operate correctly that Oppo ultimately is unable to provide. I'd feel much more comfortable picking up an extra 103 at this point (if they were still sold) than a 203 for a hypothetical future scenario.

  64. Robert Crawford

    Actually, you have the option of picking up your player at Menlo Park if you so desire. I would call Oppo to see if that option is actually available to you.

    Robert, thanks for the suggestion. I’ll look into it. Though I looked at the Oppo website store and only saw the 203 available.

    I’ve been thinking, 4K will be cool and having the player will mean I’m ready for when I upgrade to a 4K display. But I didn’t realize that 8K is on the horizon. Though I grant that it’s probably many years off before consumers can get an 8K display! So if one did upgrade to 4K today, the question does linger in my head. My guess is a nice new Oppo player today should provide 10 years of service if well cared for.

    Well, I’ll continue to ponder the question. And I’ll check on Oppo and purchasing through them.

  65. Nelson Au

    Robert, thanks for the suggestion. I’ll look into it. Though I looked at the Oppo website store and only saw the 203 available.

    I’ve been thinking, 4K will be cool and having the player will mean I’m ready for when I upgrade to a 4K display. But I didn’t realize that 8K is on the horizon. Though I grant that it’s probably many years off before consumers can get an 8K display! So if one did upgrade to 4K today, the question does linger in my head. My guess is a nice new Oppo player today should provide 10 years of service if well cared for.

    Well, I’ll continue to ponder the question. And I’ll check on Oppo and purchasing through them.

    I forgot you wanted the 205 so perhaps it's best to call them to find out its availability.

  66. Robert Crawford

    Don't do that! Buy the following linked kit as it also works on the 203/205 models.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/160942653070?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

    Thank you for the heads up on that!

    I haven't decided what to do about the Oppo situation yet myself, but given the info on that eBay page, I'm wondering if my 93 kit that's worked so perfectly all these years might also work on the 103 and 203. The description says this "103" one works on the 93 series as well, so one really has to wonder if these are all the same thing and would work on ALL the players.

  67. Charles Smith

    Thank you for the heads up on that!

    I haven't decided what to do about the Oppo situation yet myself, but given the info on that eBay page, I'm wondering if my 93 kit that's worked so perfectly all these years might also work on the 103 and 203. The description says this "103" one works on the 93 series as well, so one really has to wonder if these are all the same thing and would work on ALL the players.

    I read that the 93 kit which I have on my 93 doesn't work on the 103, therefore, I doubt it works on the 203.

  68. Robert Crawford

    I forgot you wanted the 205 so perhaps it's best to call them to find out its availability.

    I did already. For those of us interested in the 205, we are S.O.L.
    I'll keep the 95 I have for music and upgrade to UHD later with another player.

  69. Josh Steinberg

    […] I'm not completely opposed to the idea but I'm not sure how much sense it makes either.

    Yah, but like it or not, they live within our thoughts;
    including all that we say and all that we write.;)

  70. Just fired up the BDP- 93 for old times sake and shed a tear. Still works great, when I use it for SACD's and DVD Audio discs (the Yamaha BD-A 1060 I have produces a better picture). But when the 93 went I was going to upgrade to the top of the Oppo line for a 4K humdinger with all the fixin's. Now it looks like the Cambridge Audio 4K Blu-ray player at a much higher price. Ah – the humanity! This new fangled "streaming" is taking a toll on the customer base and really starting to get me down.

  71. Jesse Skeen

    Another great feature of Oppo players is having NO layer change pause on DVDs. I can spot them a mile away, but they never show up on the Oppos. I'd hate to have to go back to that now.

    I haven't experienced a layer change pause since my very first Sony DVD player circa 1999. Every other DVD and BD player I've had since then (Oppo, Sony, Samsung, LG) has read DVDs without an issue at the layer change. I think you will likely be fine.

  72. Doug Smith

    Now it looks like the Cambridge Audio 4K Blu-ray player at a much higher price. Ah – the humanity! This new fangled "streaming" is taking a toll on the customer base and really starting to get me down.

    You mean there’s a player that costs more than Oppo?

  73. Cambridge is ultra high end and comes from the U.K. A little on the pricey side. Looks and sounds fantastic in the show room and is a multi-dimensional player like the top end Oppo. If you're interested check out the Cambridge Audio 4KUHD Universal Blu-Ray Player CXUHD. As an aside I was wondering if anyone else had noticed a small delay on DVD A and SACD discs on the BDP-93? It started happening after the last firmware update.

  74. Jesse Skeen

    Another great feature of Oppo players is having NO layer change pause on DVDs. I can spot them a mile away, but they never show up on the Oppos. I'd hate to have to go back to that now.

    FYI, my Sony X800 UHD player has no pause on the DVD layer change, either. I use it or my Oppo 980H for DVD playback, as my Panasonic BD player does pause at the layer change.

  75. Scott Merryfield

    FYI, my Sony X800 UHD player has no pause on the DVD layer change, either. I use it or my Oppo 980H for DVD playback, as my Panasonic BD player does pause at the layer change.

    My first OPPO was a DVD player, but for the life of me, I can't remember that model number. I believe it was the 980H.

  76. The Amazon site shows the Oppo 205 going for $5,999.99 through a third party seller known as A-B-C Media. I hope it never sells. I hope it sits there gathering dust. And I hope that A-B-C Media witnesses an equal model that rises to the surface; but long after they drop the price back down to its original price where, even then, not a buyer will bite. Disgusting.

  77. Hey folks, this remains sad news; especially for a model that's not even a half year old. But after seeing A-B-C Media's advertised greed, one must also be reminded that this unavailable item is now being played up in price as if the Apocalypse, itself, were eminent. I assure you all, this is not the Apocalypse; so we needn't be pulled and swayed by ratings-grabbing meteorologists who get the populace all stirred up over storms that pass. Fear not, we do not need to hoard all the milk, water, bread and food supplies for a forecast that signifies nothing. And there's certainly no need to voluntarily drive yourselves onto a highway that's already filled and at a standstill. My own evacuation plan is to ride it out by sitting at home. Do nothing and do not get pulled into the "to buy or not to buy" furor. Really, friends, relax. There's always another bus, taxi or train to be caught. I, myself, am certain that by the time I have my initial 205 monies actually saved, we will see the inspirational appearance of Opps's heir apparent. So, with that said, we can all be pressure free. Breath out, breath in and take in the sky above.:)

  78. I’m thinking of just trying to buy a 205 and if I do get one, saving it for when I do upgrade to a 4K display. If I should get lucky and find a 205, it will of course play regular 2D and 3D blu rays, so it could be used right away. But if I play a 4K disc to my regular HD plasma, I’ve read the image might not look that great. Is that true?

    I’ve also read the audio portion for HI-FI audio playback maybe not be audibly improved over the 105 which I currently own. The reason I wanted to get one of these was for the 4K, and as a secondary benefit, the audio playback. I’m sure a lot of factors play into that opinion about audio. The acoustics of the room, the hardware and the listener and how he/she perceives the sound. So I’ll have to hear it myself to decide.

    Philip, just saw your post and I agree.

  79. Nelson Au

    I’m thinking of just trying to buy a 205 and if I do get one, saving it for when I do upgrade to a 4K display. If I should get lucky and find a 205, it will of course play regular 2D and 3D blu rays, so it could be used right away. But if I play a 4K disc to my regular HD plasma, I’ve read the image might not look that great. Is that true.

    I have a UHD player connected to a 60" Panasonic plasma. I only have a handful of 4K discs, but I haven't seen a noticeable difference between them and standard blu-rays. Also, I think virtually every UHD disc comes with a blu-ray as well, so it shouldn't be an issue.

  80. Scott Merryfield

    Yes, Oppo made both a 980 and 981, which were available at the same time. It's been so long I can't remember the difference between the models, or why I chose the 980.

    I bought both. At the time, Oppo recommended the 981 for larger displays, such as they were then, but I disagree and found the 980 to be the superior machine in the end, after all the FW updates, even on a contemporary PJ, and certainly on a plasma. The 980 also outputs DSD over HDMI, the 981 converts it to LPCM…there's one diff. The 980/1 are IMO the "prettiest looking" Oppos, so sleek, nice display, too bad about that obnoxious power LED (cured here). The 983 was far superior though, a wonderful DVD player, as good as the 83 for that.

    Sad news though. I guess it was to be expected, premium disc players are a niche product in what is obviously becoming a niche market as a whole i.e. anything disc-related.

  81. Guys, I was wondering how hard it was to find an Oppo 203 and 205. I went to my local Best Buy Magnolia store today and asked for an Oppo 205 and the sales guy said sure. He looked it up on the computer and there is stock in their warehouses. They have them. So I suspect people might have forgotten there are still brick and mortar stores out there where you can buy stuff. :). I put my money down on one and it will be shipped to the Best Buy in a couple of days and I’ll go pick it up. This was definitely nuts, it is something I planned to do eventually, but this was way sooner then I planned. And the price was MSRP, no crazy marking up the prices. Now I just hope it goes as planned.

    And I had a look at the Oppo site for the 205 and there is now a red button you can click to register for a potential future production run! So if you miss this current opportunity, there is still a chance. The site makes no promises. I think they are guaging interest and say the next production run could be in the July August timeframe, or there about. Then that’s it.

  82. CraigF

    I bought both. At the time, Oppo recommended the 981 for larger displays, such as they were then, but I disagree and found the 980 to be the superior machine in the end, after all the FW updates, even on a contemporary PJ, and certainly on a plasma. The 980 also outputs DSD over HDMI, the 981 converts it to LPCM…there's one diff. The 980/1 are IMO the "prettiest looking" Oppos, so sleek, nice display, too bad about that obnoxious power LED (cured here). The 983 was far superior though, a wonderful DVD player, as good as the 83 for that.

    Sad news though. I guess it was to be expected, premium disc players are a niche product in what is obviously becoming a niche market as a whole i.e. anything disc-related.

    Craig,

    It must have been the DSD over HDMI feature that had me select the 980 over the 981. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

  83. Nelson Au

    Guys, I was wondering how hard it was to find an Oppo 203 and 205. I went to my local Best Buy Magnolia store today and asked for an Oppo 205 and the sales guy said sure. He looked it up on the computer and there is stock in their warehouses. They have them. So I suspect people might have forgotten there are still brick and mortar stores out there where you can buy stuff. :). I put my money down on one and it will be shipped to the Best Buy in a couple of days and I’ll go pick it up. This was definitely nuts, it is something I planned to do eventually, but this was way sooner then I planned. And the price was MSRP, no crazy marking up the prices. Now I just hope it goes as planned.

    And I had a look at the Oppo site for the 205 and there is now a red button you can click to register for a potential future production run! So if you miss this current opportunity, there is still a chance. The site makes no promises. I think they are guaging interest and say the next production run could be in the July August timeframe, or there about. Then that’s it.

    Congratulations to Nelson Au. MSRP is all that should be encouraged. Thanks for doing it right.

  84. I wouldn’t have done it any other way, Philip. It had me wondering if people are just too focused on buying through the web and forgot about the old fashioned way!

    Jessie, I bought my first Oppo player at Best Buy, but it has to be a Best Buy with a Magnolia store as they sell the Oppo’s, not “Best Buy”.

  85. I'm trying to decide whether to buy a 203 while I still can. I do feel leary about purchasing an expensive player that may soon have no warranty or update support; however, the versatility and ease of making this brand of player region-free is still a draw.

  86. Nelson Au

    […]Jessie, I bought my first Oppo player at Best Buy, but it has to be a Best Buy with a Magnolia store as they sell the Oppo’s, not “Best Buy”.

    In my town, the closest Magnolia is found within the produce section.:(

  87. Nelson Au

    […]Jessie, I bought my first Oppo player at Best Buy, but it has to be a Best Buy with a Magnolia store as they sell the Oppo’s, not “Best Buy”.

    In my town, the closest Magnolia is found within the produce section.:(

  88. Nelson Au

    […]Jessie, I bought my first Oppo player at Best Buy, but it has to be a Best Buy with a Magnolia store as they sell the Oppo’s, not “Best Buy”.

    In my town, the closest Magnolia is found within the produce section.:(

  89. Nelson Au

    […]Jessie, I bought my first Oppo player at Best Buy, but it has to be a Best Buy with a Magnolia store as they sell the Oppo’s, not “Best Buy”.

    In my town, the closest Magnolia is found within the produce section.:(

  90. Edwin-S

    I'm trying to decide whether to buy a 203 while I still can. I do feel leary about purchasing an expensive player that may soon have no warranty or update support; however, the versatility and ease of making this brand of player region-free is still a draw.

    I bought one just a few days before the announcement. Don't regret it at all, as this is a solid player.

  91. Randy_M

    I bought one just a few days before the announcement. Don't regret it at all, as this is a solid player.

    If only I owned an OPPO; then I, too, would also be "a solid player" among the HTF afficianados.
    Congratulations to Randy_M, as well. (ya lucky dog!!):thumbs-up-smiley:

  92. Besides performance, the one other thing everybody says is a main reason to get an Oppo is the customer service (never used it myself). CS matters in this biz, FW updates are back to being very important. Oppo says this aspect will continue. As consumers we have no way of knowing how much and for how long… Does anybody think UHD is static? That the way it is now is the end game? The 203/5 have a lifetime like everything else, you have to purchase based on it doing what you want to do now, and consider any updates as a bonus. Buying something based on promises of some future capability…generally not a good idea.

    As far as region-free BD/SACD/DVD-A/3D/4K upscaling/etc. (not UHD), Sony makes perfectly "adequate" machines for a reasonable price, the common 3rd party vendors (multiple names, same outfit) are IME reliable and do a professional job. You won't mistake them for good quality hardware though. Other brands too, but I chose Sony, was the only easily-obtained brand for this in Canada at the time

  93. CraigF

    Besides performance, the one other thing everybody says is a main reason to get an Oppo is the customer service (never used it myself). CS matters in this biz, FW updates are back to being very important. Oppo says this aspect will continue. As consumers we have no way of knowing how much and for how long… Does anybody think UHD is static? That the way it is now is the end game? The 203/5 have a lifetime like everything else, you have to purchase based on it doing what you want to do now, and consider any updates as a bonus. Buying something based on promises of some future capability…generally not a good idea.

    Yup, its hard to imagine long-term job securities for Customer Service reps over all the rest.

  94. Edwin-S

    The problem with the SONY player is that it doesn't support Dolby Vision which (after seeing some content with DV) is a requirement in my book.

    If you're referring to what I said, I was only talking about a "general purpose" player for everything except UHD (i.e. the Sony all-region versions). I kind of lean towards the Panny UHDP these days (I mean if I was going to get a new one), but no experience, only Oppo and Samsung.

  95. Sorry for the confusion. I was referring to the UBP-X800 4K player from SONY. It is their native 4K player which is available as a region-free player from specialty shops such as 220 electronics in the USA.

  96. Edwin-S

    Sorry for the confusion. I was referring to the UBP-X800 4K player from SONY. It is their native 4K player which is available as a region-free player from specialty shops such as 220 electronics in the USA.

    220 Electronics.
    They're the very group that's selling the Oppo 205 for $3,500.
    Oh, yes, they specialize in many things, indeed.

  97. I wasn't commenting on their ethics, only on the fact that they sell modified region-free players that are generally not available directly from the manufacturer or mainstream retailers. It sounds like the 205 is becoming hard to come by so that particular retailer is trying to take advantage of the situation. It behooves people to actually take the time and research if any particular player is available from another source for a more reasonable price before dropping 3500 dollars on a purchase.

  98. None of this would even be necessary if shit-stain studios such as DISNEY, LIONSGATE and others hadn't dropped domestic releases of 3D films, forcing domestic collectors to order region-locked 3D releases or 3D releases in general from foreign sources.

  99. Edwin-S

    […]that particular retailer is trying to take advantage of the situation.[…]

    Edwin-S

    None of this would even be necessary if shit-stain studios such as DISNEY, LIONSGATE and others hadn't dropped domestic releases of 3D films, forcing domestic collectors to order region-locked 3D releases or 3D releases in general from foreign sources.

    I sincerely doubt that ABC Electronics price hike has a thing to do with Disney, Lionsgate, et al.
    Nor do I believe that ABC Electronics holds an interest in gaining a long-term relationship with their customers.

  100. I think you have totally misunderstood what I was getting at. I wouldn't even have to look at purchasing a C$749 (before taxes and shipping) 203 blu-ray player plus the cost of the region-free plug-in board if asshold studios such as Lionsgate and Disney hadn't dropped support of domestic 3D releases.

    Thanks to the policies of shit-stain studios, like Lionsgate, I have to spend a pile of cash on a region-free player just so that I can watch my3D copy of Valerian even though I already own a perfectly capable 3D player in the form of a Samsung K-8500 UHD player. Do I think that purchasing a US$3500 dollar player (C$4500) is in support of some sort of cause? No. Would I spend that kind of money? No.

    I think there wouldn't have to be any reason to spend that kind of money if studios and TV manufacturers hadn't been assholes in dropping support of a format that has been in existence for six to eight years now.

  101. I'm sorry if I'm not feeling particularly magnanimous to studios when I have to look at spending 800 dollars to watch movies that I have purchased thanks to their policies. Anyway, I've said my piece.

  102. I think there's some confusion about whether one needs an Oppo to view imported 3D content. One does not. You can get a region-free modified player from brands like LG and Samsung that cost a small fraction of what an Oppo costs. A Blu-ray disc that's 1080p/24 will play on any machine in the world once the region locking is defeated. There's no conversion required.

    When you buy an Oppo, you're buying a lot more. You're buying a player that can convert video formats, which doesn't come into play with theatrically released 3D movies, but is a factor with PAL DVDs, and bonus features that are 25fps or 1080i/50. The Oppo also plays audio formats that are basically extinct, like SACD and DVD-A. The Oppo also has a tremendous upscaler, playing back regular SD DVDs better on an HD setup than most other players. I find value in all of that.

    But if your only goal for home entertainment is simply to watch a region locked 3D movie disc, the kind that the domestic branches of studios aren't distributing on disc in the US anymore, you can do that with a modded LG player that costs about $100.

  103. I don't want a rack full of players. I was only looking at this one because it is easily converted to region-free play without using hacked firmware that comes from who-knows-where. It also supports DV which the SONY, SAMSUNG, etc. hacked 4K players don't. I would prefer the Panasonic player when it comes out, but, again, it would require a firmware hack to be region-free and I don't know if it is going support DV.

    Edit: It looks like the upcoming Panasonic player does support DV. I may have to wait and see if a hacked region-free version shows up for sale. Not sure it makes sense to spend money on a brand that is essentially dead.

  104. I don't think any of the region-modified players for Blu-ray are using hacked firmware; my understanding, which may be incorrect, is that they all require a physical modification. It was DVD that could be hacked to be region free by using firmware, but when the Blu-ray spec was developed, the BDA (the group that designs the specifications and gives out the license to call a product "Blu-ray") required that the region coding couldn't be defeated with just software.

    Therefore, as I understand it, any player that's been made to operate as region free has had some kind of hardware modification to it. My understanding is that they all basically work the way the Oppo mod does, in that you need to enter a code in your remote and then restart the machine in order to switch it to another region, and then do the same thing to return it to the original region afterwards.

    The Oppo was unique in that the mod was more consumer friendly and could be added externally without opening up the box, whereas the other brands didn't have all of the external ports that the Oppo does, so they require the mod to be installed internally.

  105. Okay. That is good information to learn. I'll probably wait until Panasonic releases their machine. I'm pretty sure a modded region-free version will soon follow. If I have to spend the dollars then I'd rather it be on a product that I know will be supported.

  106. In the past couple days I've been looking at Bombay and 220 to see what my future options would be, and they're advertising on all of their players that they can have the firmware upgraded without defeating the mod (which is how it is on the Oppo too). I've never purchased from either, but their websites say they offer lifetime support for the product. If the region-free part stops working, they'll fix it.

    I know there are a lot of people on this forum and elsewhere who are region free but never went the Oppo route, so I'm not too worried about that.

    I'm more concerned about losing the conversion ability that the Oppo has, as well as the support for the dated audio formats like SACD and DVD-A. I don't have a ton of discs that require conversions or that are in those audio formats, but the ones I do have are important to me.

  107. Last night I thought I’d play an SACD on my Oppo 105. It was great I could, I don’t have very many SACD discs myself. I’ve been meaning to chase down a few more titles that are favorites.

    That’s well said about what the valuable aspects of an Oppo player is. I appreciate having one machine that can read FLAC and ALAC files which are what I mainly have. I have a few WAV files too. I’m reading about something I hadn’t known too much about and that is streaming music files from my home network straight to the Oppo. Though I like how I can now just pull files from a USB drive that’s directly connected to the Oppo.

    Buying a new Oppo now is certainly a risk. I’m gambling Oppo’s technical staff will keep my machine working for at least 5 years and longer if we’re lucky. If the disc transport system itself is solid, I imagine it will be good for a long time.

    Josh, I had forgotten about the upscaling feature too. As you know, I’ve been watching a lot of DVD’s of older titles on discs that are older transfers and so far the image quality has been great for what it is.

  108. Edwin-S

    None of this would even be necessary if shit-stain studios such as DISNEY, LIONSGATE and others hadn't dropped domestic releases of 3D films, forcing domestic collectors to order region-locked 3D releases or 3D releases in general from foreign sources.

    There are PLENTY of region-locked Blu-ray releases that aren't 3D, so it's far from the only thing driving the need. IMO a region-free player is a necessity if you're a videophile. I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't watch my Region B Studio Canal release of Quatermass and the Pit occasionally. 🙂

  109. dpippel

    There are PLENTY of region-locked Blu-ray releases that aren't 3D, so it's far from the only thing driving the need. IMO a region-free player is a necessity if you're a videophile. I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't watch my Region B Studio Canal release of Quatermass and the Pit occasionally. 🙂

    That's true. I forgot that there are a lot of people who import shows that have never seen or will never see a release over here and that most of those discs will be locked. I haven't imported too many discs. Ordering from the UK is not cheap for Canadians. The Valerian 4K combo pack and Planes: Fire and Rescue 3D was the first time I had ordered from the UK. I ordered the 4K/3D combo of Valerian from the UK because the ad copy gave the impression that the entire package was region-free while the truth was that the 3D copy was region B locked.

  110. Rack full of players…that's me. (And they think 8xHDMI inputs is enough.) Different strengths. Also to preserve the Oppos for doing what they're best at, and using the cheapo region-free Sony for doing all the mundane stuff, the stuff that's hard to get "wrong" these days. Even DVD, which seems to be quite easy to get wrong: these universal players seem to actually be quite good at them now from what I've seen and read. That used to be IMO strictly the domain of Oppo. If anyone here still cares about DVDs (I lnow I know, some of you do, it's the only available disc format for them, some of the streams are simply awful).

    The place I ordered that universal Sony BDP was Multi-System Electronics. I think it was shipped from the U.S., but I ordered from amazon.ca…anyway it came quickly. I looked around and was pretty sure that this is the "same" company as 220 and Bombay etc., but was a couple years ago and I forget exactly.

    Two days ago I checked there (MSE) and they still had the 203 available at the "regular" Canadian price, plus the CA$100 for the region-free which is the only version they sell. Their region-free mods for other players are hardware, you select region on the remote with one of the "color" keys when the loader is open, no fancy key sequences etc. needed. Firmware updates (the Sony had a lot) work normally.

  111. Talking about a "rack full of players" just as a side note to the 93 and 203 I have a HD DVD and Pioneer Laser Disc player both of which are rarely used but valued for those few discs that are not otherwise available. (I know other folks will be a similar boat but brought it up on the basis of "almost extinct" hardware – kinda 🙂 )

    Regards

  112. SAhmed

    Talking about a "rack full of players" just as a side note to the 93 and 203 I have a HD DVD and Pioneer Laser Disc player both of which are rarely used but valued for those few discs that are not otherwise available. (I know other folks will be a similar boat but brought it up on the basis of "almost extinct" hardware – kinda 🙂 )

    Regards

    Please don't remind me as I have one player in my main HT rack and another two that have never been played.:roll: I keep them to remind me of my stupidity back in the day. I'm much better now.:)

  113. Just because Oppo has gone doesn't mean that technology, itself, has closed up shop.
    Breath in…breath out. We're all going to land on our feet. Just you wait and see.:)

  114. ^ Here's the thing: is anybody clamoring to buy Oppo? IDK, but haven't read anything "serious" about that, not that it would make sense for the company to talk about it until it was a done deal. Even sell the disc-related portion as a separate entity. Investors look at ROI, and I assume it's not attractive now. They also want growth, and I'm going to guess that's not happening.

    The Oppo brand name certainly is worth something though, but not sure how marketable a niche brand name is, usually it's the mass-market brand names that get recycled on some junk when the original company closes down. Or maybe they could "do a Pioneer" and have their Oppo name on good-quality gear made by one of the biggies. Lots of possibilities, it's hard to believe that a brand name with such good customer will and reputation would be squandered.

    As sort of mentioned previously, I've been a member of the Oppo Preservation Society for many years. It's not like I revere Oppos or anything, but more like I appreciate them. Mine all look and work like new. 🙂

  115. I have to chime in because I still have a Pioneer Laser Disc Player, Sony CLS-99. I used to have tons more LDs but I gave a bunch away not so long ago and I’m down to about 20-30. But I play it maybe once a year and I wonder why I keep it. Even had to buy a pricey adapter to go S-video to HDMI because my new AV Receiver no longer has an Input for S-video. Should have found a home for it right then. But it’s fun to play. The video looks so dated now but the audio is excellent.

    I bought a UDP-205 yesterday from Magnolia. I wanted the audiophile enhancements, I wanted the wireless capability (it has WiFi and Ethernet connectivity). Now I have to keep my fingers crossed it’s like my Oppo BDP-83 SE which has never gone down. I don’t know if there are any other players that still have analogue out connectivity.

  116. I would suspect they are keenly aware of the optical disc market and see the writing on the wall. Like the rest of us, streaming is taking over as the source for music and movies. As bandwidth gets higher and cheaper new materials faster speeds everything media will be coming out the computer. I remember reading about a Sony machine not sure what it was called, it was in Widescreen Review and it did all the files including upconversion. The price was obnoxious so forgot about it. I'm sure we are headed this way. That was about 2 years ago. I have a 93 and the build quality is like a tank.

  117. Nelson Au

    You might get your wish. As I noted above, the Oppo webpage for the 205 now have a link you can click to register for a possible upcoming final build run of 205’s.

    https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/

    Perfect, Nelson Au; and thank you, too.
    Your supplied link should be run often within this thread; as other readers may be popping in and out, along the way.
    I added my name to their waiting list.:thumbs-up-smiley:
    My thanks to Oppo, as well, for creating a second possible wave of 205's.:cheers:

  118. Long-time Oppo owner and fan. I have just sold my 4-year-old 103 and am on order for a new 203. I take Oppo at its word that they will support their products indefinitely. Perhaps with the 203 and the 205, they feel they have gone as far as they can go with a universal disc player. Also, with downloading and streaming becoming more popular, and with many predicting (incorrectly I think) the demise of the silver disc, maybe their sales are slowing down and are not as robust. Give them a break and give them your support! They are NOT going out of business!

  119. I'd be wiling to bet that the customer base who comprise Oppo's core business are not in the "downloading and streaming" crowd. Their products are not targeting that group and, despite a half-hearted addition of some streaming apps in the their older players, they never really have.

  120. dpippel

    I'd be wiling to bet that the customer base who comprise Oppo's core business are not in the "downloading and streaming" crowd. Their products are not targeting that group and, despite a half-hearted addition of some streaming apps in the their older players, they never really have.

    I think that applies to some of them, but then there are some of us that have evolve from thinking that "downloading and streaming" is terrible for those that love to watch movies.

  121. I remember when the last Blockbuster in my area shut down, I was sad. I started streaming Netflix. Then Vudu. Miss the physical store, but pretty nice during snow storm to sit on my ass cozy warm and not drive to get the next movie. My latest computer is a hybrid optical hard drive and semiconductor hard drive.
    Some models had no optical disc, just semiconductor. What about thumbdrive movies?

  122. Robert Crawford

    I think that applies to some of them, but then there are some of us that have evolve from thinking that "downloading and streaming" is terrible for those that love to watch movies.

    What I meant was, that people who do the majority of their movie watching via a Roku or the streaming apps on their TV are not the type of person who would even consider spending $600-$1200 on a disc player. Therefore, they would not be in Oppo's demographic in the first place. Oppo has always catered to a niche market, even as far as DVD/Blu-ray/4K players are concerned.

  123. PMF

    I added my name to their waiting list.:thumbs-up-smiley:

    Bryan^H

    I registered, and will buy one when available.

    I "get" that they must be backing out of the business because of the evolution of the industry towards streaming…but I continue to wonder if they might re-think their business model now that they've seen the impact of their announcement and the sudden demand for a product that is of limited availability. I wonder if they could find a profitable model that would allow them to continue to research and develop high-quality decks in an 'on demand" setting (not entirely unlike what we see some of the boutique distributors doing with certain home releases).

    Probably just wishful thinking on my part (as the proud owner of a 203). Yet, if they say they are going to continue to provide updates and maintenance…

  124. I got the message from the Magnolia store I bought the 205 from last Saturday that it was shipped to their store and ready to pick up. I picked it up and it’s sitting at home. I’m sort of torn, should I even open it and set it up. What if it has a problem, I can’t really exchange it. I’m sure it will be fine, but it’s funny the thoughts that go through one’s head knowing the company is ceasing production of these players.

    The sales guy I worked with was pretty cool. He will get my business when I am ready for an OLED 4K set. He said that I just got under the wire, my order was the last one they had. He said he was checking the stock after I ordered mine and found the other stores had shown a spike in orders for the Oppo players. The word was out fast!

    I’ll think I’ll set mine up this weekend.

  125. Nelson Au

    I got the message from the Magnolia store I bought the 205 from last Saturday that it was shipped to their store and ready to pick up. I picked it up and it’s sitting at home. I’m sort of torn, should I even open it and set it up. What if it has a problem, I can’t really exchange it. I’m sure it will be fine, but it’s funny the thoughts that go through one’s head knowing the company is ceasing production of these players.

    The sales guy I worked with was pretty cool. He will get my business when I am ready for an OLED 4K set. He said that I just got under the wire, my order was the last one they had. He said he was checking the stock after I ordered mine and found the other stores had shown a spike in orders for the Oppo players. The word was out fast!

    I’ll think I’ll set mine up this weekend.

    Are you talking about having a problem right away or a year or two from now?

  126. I meant right away, but sure, a year from now will be disappointing. I’m going to go by the Oppo 105 I bought back in 2013 if I recall the year correctly. It’s been working 5 years without a problem and it’s firmware was updated twice. So if the 205 has the same build quality, and I’m sure it does, I figure I’m going to be ok.

  127. Nelson Au

    I meant right away, but sure, a year from now will be disappointing. I’m going to go by the Oppo 105 I bought back in 2013 if I recall the year correctly. It’s been working 5 years without a problem and it’s firmware was updated twice. So if the 205 has the same build quality, and I’m sure it does, I figure I’m going to be ok.

    If you have a problem right away you can return it for refund?

  128. Nelson Au

    I got the message from the Magnolia store I bought the 205 from last Saturday that it was shipped to their store and ready to pick up. I picked it up and it’s sitting at home. I’m sort of torn, should I even open it and set it up. What if it has a problem, I can’t really exchange it. I’m sure it will be fine, but it’s funny the thoughts that go through one’s head knowing the company is ceasing production of these players.

    The sales guy I worked with was pretty cool. He will get my business when I am ready for an OLED 4K set. He said that I just got under the wire, my order was the last one they had. He said he was checking the stock after I ordered mine and found the other stores had shown a spike in orders for the Oppo players. The word was out fast!

    I’ll think I’ll set mine up this weekend.

    A powerful moment is before you. Not only is it an Oppo 205, but it is among to last to which you resourcefully captured. What was once coveted is now a reality come true. The additional sweetness of it all is that you properly obtained this item at its legitimate MSRP pricing. Hard to imagine not opening it up, pronto. Clear the decks, Nelson Au. Turn off all the phones, pull down all the shades and put the cat out with a bowl of cream…you are in the land of Oppo.

  129. Nelson Au

    Philip, you make it sound like an almost religious experience! 🙂

    I’ll let you know how it goes.

    Good luck and have fun with your new toy. My new 203 arrived yesterday, but I haven't set it up yet. Will do between now and this weekend as I'm going to re-configure my bedroom HT and Office HT in which I'm replacing players in both setups. I also got my MOD kit yesterday.

  130. Robert Crawford

    Good luck and have fun with your new toy. My new 203 arrived yesterday, but I haven't set it up yet. Will do between now and this weekend as I'm going to re-configure my bedroom HT and Office HT in which I'm replacing players in both setups. I also got my MOD kit yesterday.

    Robert,

    Is that the MOD kit that you linked to earlier in the thread from avsdigital? Just got mine yesterday, and it works flawlessly on my 203

  131. Randy_M

    Robert,

    Is that the MOD kit that you linked to earlier in the thread from avsdigital? Just got mine yesterday, and it works flawlessly on my 203

    Yep, that's the one that I currently have installed in my 103 and 203 players.

  132. Randy_M

    Robert,

    Is that the MOD kit that you linked to earlier in the thread from avsdigital? Just got mine yesterday, and it works flawlessly on my 203

    Yep, that's the one that I currently have installed in my 103 and 203 players.

  133. Nelson Au

    Philip, you make it sound like an almost religious experience! 🙂
    […]

    Are you saying its not?;)
    P.S. When done setting it up, could you send me the empty box with all of its plastic wrappings?
    I would love to breath it in and imagine that mine had also arrived.:D

  134. Nelson Au

    Philip, you make it sound like an almost religious experience! 🙂
    […]

    Are you saying its not?;)
    P.S. When done setting it up, could you send me the empty box with all of its plastic wrappings?
    I would love to breath it in and imagine that mine had also arrived.:D

  135. Another nail in the coffin for physical media.Try to find a laptop or desktop PC with a built in optical media drive. How much longer will Netflix be renting discs? Technology, which used to be our friend, is now turning against us. Who will buy a physical media player when all the latest 4K TV's offer streaming services built into them? 3D is now all but dead in the USA. "Twilight Time" certainly picked an appropriate name for their company. How sad.

    I guess I always knew that home theater was destined to be a niche market. The masses will always be attracted to convenience over quality. The pictures coming out of my HD cable box look very pretty… Until something moves faster than a brisk walk. Then compression artifacts rear their ugly head.

    Fortunately, my 2 Oppo 93's are still spinning away, producing beautiful images and sound. Hopefully, they will continue to do so, even into the dark times.

  136. Another nail in the coffin for physical media.Try to find a laptop or desktop PC with a built in optical media drive. How much longer will Netflix be renting discs? Technology, which used to be our friend, is now turning against us. Who will buy a physical media player when all the latest 4K TV's offer streaming services built into them? 3D is now all but dead in the USA. "Twilight Time" certainly picked an appropriate name for their company. How sad.

    I guess I always knew that home theater was destined to be a niche market. The masses will always be attracted to convenience over quality. The pictures coming out of my HD cable box look very pretty… Until something moves faster than a brisk walk. Then compression artifacts rear their ugly head.

    Fortunately, my 2 Oppo 93's are still spinning away, producing beautiful images and sound. Hopefully, they will continue to do so, even into the dark times.

  137. Nelson Au

    Philip, I’m sure you’ll have your 205 later this year. I’ll resist the temptation of using the religious phrase already spoken. 🙂

    Did you say "Temptation"?:laugh:

  138. Nelson Au

    Philip, I’m sure you’ll have your 205 later this year. I’ll resist the temptation of using the religious phrase already spoken. 🙂

    Did you say "Temptation"?:laugh:

  139. Reed Grele

    Another nail in the coffin for physical media.Try to find a laptop or desktop PC with a built in optical media drive. How much longer will Netflix be renting discs? Technology, which used to be our friend, is now turning against us. Who will buy a physical media player when all the latest 4K TV's offer streaming services built into them? 3D is now all but dead in the USA. "Twilight Time" certainly picked an appropriate name for their company. How sad.

    I guess I always knew that home theater was destined to be a niche market. The masses will always be attracted to convenience over quality. The pictures coming out of my HD cable box look very pretty… Until something moves faster than a brisk walk. Then compression artifacts rear their ugly head.

    Fortunately, my 2 Oppo 93's are still spinning away, producing beautiful images and sound. Hopefully, they will continue to do so, even into the dark times.

    Last summer I was working with a supreme idiot. When speaking of physical media, he said that he only streams and that he couldn't tell the difference. I then asked him what it was that he had been comparing it to. He replied, "Nothing, I don't need to". What's even more reflective of the populace is that he, himself, is quite popular and always "factually" adamant about many other topics to which he has never explored.

  140. Reed Grele

    Another nail in the coffin for physical media.Try to find a laptop or desktop PC with a built in optical media drive. How much longer will Netflix be renting discs? Technology, which used to be our friend, is now turning against us. Who will buy a physical media player when all the latest 4K TV's offer streaming services built into them? 3D is now all but dead in the USA. "Twilight Time" certainly picked an appropriate name for their company. How sad.

    I guess I always knew that home theater was destined to be a niche market. The masses will always be attracted to convenience over quality. The pictures coming out of my HD cable box look very pretty… Until something moves faster than a brisk walk. Then compression artifacts rear their ugly head.

    Fortunately, my 2 Oppo 93's are still spinning away, producing beautiful images and sound. Hopefully, they will continue to do so, even into the dark times.

    Last summer I was working with a supreme idiot. When speaking of physical media, he said that he only streams and that he couldn't tell the difference. I then asked him what it was that he had been comparing it to. He replied, "Nothing, I don't need to". What's even more reflective of the populace is that he, himself, is quite popular and always "factually" adamant about many other topics to which he has never explored.

  141. PMF

    and always "factually" adamant about many other topics to which he has never explored.

    You could say those attitudes affect many areas of current society. People know what they know and they're not willing to consider they might be wrong, or that there might be another point of view.

  142. PMF

    and always "factually" adamant about many other topics to which he has never explored.

    You could say those attitudes affect many areas of current society. People know what they know and they're not willing to consider they might be wrong, or that there might be another point of view.

  143. PMF

    Last summer I was working with a supreme idiot. When speaking of physical media, he said that he only streams and that he couldn't tell the difference. I then asked him what it was that he had been comparing it to. He replied, "Nothing, I don't need to". What's even more reflective of the populace is that he, himself, is quite popular and always "factually" adamant about many other topics to which he has never explored.

    (Without getting heavily into politics).

    Every factual objection of this type ^ is negated easily with "In Your Opinion …" type responses, on either side. This is completely regardless of any semi-objective empirical data + tests.

    It is impossible to argue anything against individuals which employ "In Your Opinion …" type of subjective responses repeatedly, both figurative and literally.

  144. PMF

    Last summer I was working with a supreme idiot. When speaking of physical media, he said that he only streams and that he couldn't tell the difference. I then asked him what it was that he had been comparing it to. He replied, "Nothing, I don't need to". What's even more reflective of the populace is that he, himself, is quite popular and always "factually" adamant about many other topics to which he has never explored.

    (Without getting heavily into politics).

    Every factual objection of this type ^ is negated easily with "In Your Opinion …" type responses, on either side. This is completely regardless of any semi-objective empirical data + tests.

    It is impossible to argue anything against individuals which employ "In Your Opinion …" type of subjective responses repeatedly, both figurative and literally.

  145. jcroy

    (Without getting heavily into politics).

    Every factual objection of this type ^ is negated easily with "In Your Opinion …" type responses, on either side. This is completely regardless of any semi-objective empirical data + tests.

    It is impossible to argue anything against individuals which employ "In Your Opinion …" type of subjective responses repeatedly, both figurative and literally.

    Did you meanOPPOnion?🙄

  146. PMF

    Last summer I was working with a supreme idiot. When speaking of physical media, he said that he only streams and that he couldn't tell the difference. I then asked him what it was that he had been comparing it to. He replied, "Nothing, I don't need to". What's even more reflective of the populace is that he, himself, is quite popular and always "factually" adamant about many other topics to which he has never explored.

    The supreme idiots adage: "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!"

  147. I just got my 203, plugged it in, and love it.

    Back when my plasma blew up with a literal bang, I got a Black Friday 2016 LG C6. I’ve had it attached to a PlayStation 4 (and no streaming), so I’ve been sitting out UHD HDR. Now I can see DolbyVision! And such a noticeably improved upscaler compared to the PS4, especially for DVDs.

    I did try putting in an HD-DVD, just in case, but it wouldn’t play.

  148. dpippel

    If you play the "waiting for the latest technology" game, you end up waiting forever and never buying anything.

    Oh so true. I fell into that cycle when Plasma displays were being scooped up; just like the Oppo; but then was told to wait for a thing called 4K. Upon its arrival, I was then told to wait on any purchasing until the technology settled, the kinks got worked out and the price became lower. I am now a goodly three years older.

  149. PMF

    Oh so true. I fell into that cycle when Plasma displays were being scooped up; just like the Oppo; but then was told to wait for a thing called 4K. Upon its arrival, I was then told to wait on any purchasing until the technology settled, the kinks got worked out and the price became lower. I am now a goodly three years older.

    Yep, paralysis by analysis. You can find a reason to NOT buy anything. Eventually you just have to decide that it's something you want and take the plunge.

  150. Malcolm R

    Yep, paralysis by analysis. You can find a reason to NOT buy anything. Eventually you just have to decide that it's something you want and take the plunge.

    A place to which I have now arrived. Sometimes perfection just comes from being fluid. Even with Blu Rays, I've now arrived at a place where I am no longer waiting for particular releases and have recently returned to capturing those desired titles that still exist on DVD.

  151. Jonathan Perregaux

    I just got my 203, plugged it in, and love it.
    ……
    I did try putting in an HD-DVD, just in case, but it wouldn’t play.

    Excuse my ignorance, but now that you mention it, why couldn't they have made a "universal" disc player that plays HD-DVD too? Funny I never wondered about that before…

    [I never got into HD-DVD, and forget everything I may once have known about them. I barely remember WB waffling on the red/blue thing. So do HD-DVD use red lasers vs BD blue lasers, vs DVD (etc.) red LED, and a universal player would require a 3-device optical head and it's too difficult?]

  152. LG made an HD-DVD blu-ray combo player back in the day, so it's probably feasible to add UHD playback to that as well. But I'd imagine it would bump up the price a fair bit for something only a handful of people would get any use out of.

    Maybe they could add laserdisc and CED playback also.

  153. Well, the diff is HD-DVD was contemporary with the other formats, and the same disc size, and not quite dead yet. As best I can recall, HD-DVD was still slightly ongoing when I got the Oppo 83 in '08. At least you could still buy them. Mostly I was just surprised that I never wondered about this before, as a curiosity thing, even though I never had any HD-DVDs so I can see why *I* didn't care.

    You forgot to mention MD. Not big in NA, but big enough in some places where Oppo sells (sold…). Even though not popular in NA, the e.g. 83 (and others) played the physically smaller discs just fine (mostly European CD singles, in my case).

  154. skylark68

    They tried this back in the late '70s… well, outside of the edison cylinder… LOL[​IMG]

    I had a unit very similar to that in my first apartment, and it got quite a workout daily. Brings back such memories to see that again.

  155. CraigF

    Excuse my ignorance, but now that you mention it, why couldn't they have made a "universal" disc player that plays HD-DVD too? Funny I never wondered about that before…

    [I never got into HD-DVD, and forget everything I may once have known about them. I barely remember WB waffling on the red/blue thing. So do HD-DVD use red lasers vs BD blue lasers, vs DVD (etc.) red LED, and a universal player would require a 3-device optical head and it's too difficult?]

    HD-DVD original spec was to use a red laser pick-up. The cartel controlling DVD and HD DVD was forced to re-spec HD-DVD for a blue laser pick-up when SONY decided to release Blu-ray as a direct competitor. I believe the original HD DVD red laser spec meant discs with a limit of 9 GB while changing over to a blue laser meant an increase in capacity to 30 GB which was still well short of Blu-rays 50 GB capacity.

  156. Edwin-S

    I believe the original HD DVD red laser spec meant discs with a limit of 9 GB while changing over to a blue laser meant an increase in capacity to 30 GB which was still well short of Blu-rays 50 GB capacity.

    It's funny, they had that whole format war for HD-DVD vs BD, and I remember the very first thing I thought as the formats were being announced was: "One format has a 30gb maximum per disc, the other has 50gb per disc. I have not one shred of loyalty or favoritism for any party in this battle, but the bigger disc capacity should and will win." And that's exactly what happened.

  157. I looked at the studios supporting each format and made my decision that way. I went Blu-ray with the PS3 (the cheapest alternative at the time). I eventually got an HD-DVD player for reviews, but my choice from the get-go was Blu-ray.

  158. Matt Hough

    I looked at the studios supporting each format and made my decision that way. I went Blu-ray with the PS3 (the cheapest alternative at the time). I eventually got an HD-DVD player for reviews, but my choice from the get-go was Blu-ray.

    (As a silly aside).

    This may sound really stupid, but I'll mention it anyways.

    I had very little to no interest in dvd/bluray over the entire 2000s decade.

    When hd-dvd and bluray were first released, I was hoping both would tear each other apart and utterly fail spectacularly. 🙂

  159. jcroy

    (As a silly aside).

    This may sound really stupid, but I'll mention it anyways.

    I had very little to no interest in dvd/bluray over the entire 2000s decade.

    When hd-dvd and bluray were first released, I was hoping both would tear each other apart and utterly fail spectacularly. 🙂

    What were you hoping to win out? VHS? A return of Betamax? LOL

  160. skylark68

    What were you hoping to win out? VHS? A return of Betamax? LOL

    Not so much who would win out.

    I was thinking along the lines of Microsoft (hd-dvd) and Sony (bluray) flipping the bird at one another. 🙂

    If there were to be a "winner", in those days I was thinking of flat-rate streaming and eliminating the "disc middleman" entirely.

  161. I didn’t really have a feeling for HD-DVD or Blu Ray in terms of which side I was for or against. At the time though, Toshiba was the main backer of HD-DVD and helped to fund the restoration to HD of Star Trek The Original Series. If I recall correctly, that was the story at the time. They then released the first season of Star Trek on HD-DVD and I dived in at that time with a Toshiba player and the first season of Star Trek. I did not invest too heavily into discs so my pile is small, under 10 titles of so. All I wanted was Star Trek. I’m glad the war ended. The blu ray of Star Trek was great because unlike the HD-DVD, there is the option for watching with the original effects or the new CGI effects as well as the 5.1 audio or mono original.

    I seemed to have dived into formats once Star Trek was there, VHS, laser disc, DVD, etc. 🙂

  162. Nelson Au

    […] I bought the 205
    […] I picked it up and it’s sitting at home.
    […]I’ll think I’ll set mine up this weekend.

    I, myself, would never be able to wait this long.
    Well, Nelson Au…it's Saturday…and you're killin' me.
    So, what's the verdict? (as if I didn't know).
    P.S. If you don't set it up by 2:05 p.m., I will send a Repo Man to your state.:D

  163. Although this thread is supposed to be about Oppo shutting down ( nudge, nudge, wink wink – but it's all interesting 🙂 ), I got into HD DVD only to pick some of the Bob Hope/Road movies, Streets Of Fire and yes I'll admit it, Mr Bean's Holiday in high def :rolling-smiley:

    Regards,

  164. (On a huge tangent).

    Another filter/prism I was looking through in regard to hd-dvd vs bluray in those days, was Microsoft vs. Sun Micrososystems (ie. java).

    In spite of my misgivings about Java, in those days I thought Sun Microsystems was the "lesser of two evils" compared to Microsoft. Back in the early-mid 2000s, Microsoft was still widely regarded as the "evil empire" of the computer world. (Even after Bill Gates resigned the ceo job in y2k).

    So even if bluray were to win, I mistakenly thought Sun Microsystems would not be able to completely undermine Java. It turns out Sun Microsystems was bought out by Oracle in 2009-10, which was slowly replacing Microsoft as another pretender to the throne of the "evil empire" . (Even if Ellison was just a "mini-me" version of Gates).

    In the end, it was moot as to who actually won. They could be equally undermined by various visible and then-emerging "evil empires". 🙂

  165. Ha, ha, Philip! 🙂 don’t send the repo man! I have several things on my plate today but hope to get the unit connected this evening. One thing I wanted to do first was listen to some music and watch a blu ray on my old 105 as a basis in my head. Then once the 205 is going, I can compare the same discs. My sense to be honest is it might not sound or look different. I’m not expecting night and day changes. But i’ll See. I’m hoping there will be some improvements in the audio.

    Any suggestions for blu rays to watch to test? I remember being so impressed when I first got my plasma of the scene in Aliens when Sigorney Weaver is seen early in the film and she is smoking a cigarette. The textures on her skin and the smoke as it came off the cigarette.

  166. Worth

    LG made an HD-DVD blu-ray combo player back in the day, so it's probably feasible to add UHD playback to that as well. But I'd imagine it would bump up the price a fair bit for something only a handful of people would get any use out of.

    Yep, the LG BH200. Mine is still going strong in my bedroom setup even though I haven’t played an HD-DVD in years.

    Matt Hough

    I looked at the studios supporting each format and made my decision that way. I went Blu-ray with the PS3 (the cheapest alternative at the time). I eventually got an HD-DVD player for reviews, but my choice from the get-go was Blu-ray.

    I also looked at the studios and HD-DVD was my preference. I also thought they were better encoded initially. I had both the Toshiba HD-A1 and PS3 at their respective releases though.

    There were some other players in there, but the day I moved up to the OPPO BDP-93 was a good day. I’ve registered to be notified of 205 availability. I’ll probably just stick with the 203 though.

  167. Robert Crawford

    Neither does my current display and it costs a lot more money than these players.

    True enough, but has it been officially announced that HDR10+ will require yet another hardware upgrade in terms of a new display? If that is the case then it is pretty well dead. The constant replacing of expensive equipment for incremental upgrades has become a major irritation.

  168. Edwin-S

    True enough, but has it been officially announced that HDR10+ will require yet another hardware upgrade in terms of a new display? If that is the case then it is pretty well dead. The constant replacing of expensive equipment for incremental upgrades has become a major irritation.

    Which is why not having HDR10+ on the Oppo 203/205 is no big deal for many of us consumers.

  169. Nelson Au

    Ha, ha, Philip! 🙂 don’t send the repo man! I have several things on my plate today but hope to get the unit connected this evening. One thing I wanted to do first was listen to some music and watch a blu ray on my old 105 as a basis in my head. Then once the 205 is going, I can compare the same discs. My sense to be honest is it might not sound or look different. I’m not expecting night and day changes. But i’ll See. I’m hoping there will be some improvements in the audio.

    Any suggestions for blu rays to watch to test? I remember being so impressed when I first got my plasma of the scene in Aliens when Sigorney Weaver is seen early in the film and she is smoking a cigarette. The textures on her skin and the smoke as it came off the cigarette.

    My number one suggestion is that dpippel re-posts for you a very specific HDMI cable that's both certified and a must to be used.
    As for BD's – and not knowing your tastes – I would absolutely spin some samples from anything connected to a RAH restoration on Blu.
    Got musicals? Great for sound checks. Not into musicals? Then check what you have against the AMPAS Database for Best Sound.
    Love all films? Got a big collection? Then try out the rare few Oscar winners that won for both Sound and Cinematography.
    Otherwise, just pop in your own personal favorites that inspired you to make this purchase, in the first place.
    That, which we love in BD films, often proves to be the best reference points for hearing and seeing the jumps of improvement.
    BTW, what's your address…as all 132.956 HTF members who are without an Oppo would love to drop in, this evening.
    And no worries, I'll bring the ice.;)

  170. Nelson Au

    They then released the first season of Star Trek on HD-DVD and I dived in at that time with a Toshiba player and the first season of Star Trek. I did not invest too heavily into discs so my pile is small, under 10 titles of so. All I wanted was Star Trek. I’m glad the war ended. The blu ray of Star Trek was great because unlike the HD-DVD, there is the option for watching with the original effects or the new CGI effects as well as the 5.1 audio or mono original.

    There is a special feature or two on the HD-DVD set of Star Trek that was not ported over to the blu-ray. I believe there is a text commentary on "The Galileo Seven" on the HD-DVD that is missing on the blu-ray.

  171. SAhmed

    Yes its the external one from the seller, GradeExchange, on Ebay – I have bought and successfully used their kits ( 93, 203 ) before without any issues. Very easy to install.

    Regards,

    Can you post a link to this kit please?

  172. marshman1138

    Can you post a link to this kit please?

    Courtesy of Robert Crawford

    Robert Crawford

    Don't do that! Buy the following linked kit as it also works on the 203/205 models.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/160942653070?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

    Also https://www.ebay.com/itm/OPPO-BDP-1…497003&hash=item2578edfe8e:g:RAoAAMXQqExRmtVY

    Really very easy to install and use – I have a 93, and two 203 with these kits and they work perfectly inclusive of the firmware updates to date.

    Regards,

  173. Edwin-S

    The constant replacing of expensive equipment for incremental upgrades has become a major irritation.

    As we have noticed, were it not for these (often "pathetic" IMO) minor changes in hardware standards to "force" upgrades/sales, many more companies would have gone out of business. Stay tuned! They're dropping like flies.

    I bet there'll be one less major "AVR" company soon. Apparently not a profitable area. Displays…how many viable manufacturers are there actually now? Not ones that are just hanging on because they're part of a rich parent company…as we've seen, that's not enough, owners don't care, if it doesn't pull its weight, it's gone (fair enough, it's business). UHD players, or any disc players…the same. Less manufacturers = less competition = less good stuff for us, it'll all be mediocre (living in Canada, I know all about the mediocracy that comes from lack of competition).

    Unless you have some fairly big bucks; there are still plenty of manufacturers of "premium" gear (ones that make Oppo gear look "cheap") and they don't seem to be having much trouble (not that I'd truly know…), and actually seem to be gaining significant traction if my casual observation is accurate.

  174. I posted this on the Oppo 205 review thread, but thought I’d post it here too Incase it’s missed. Some possible good news from Oppo.

    I accidentally came across a post in a forum discussiing the Oppo 205. There was a link to an article on the HDTVtest website about Oppo’s shut down. The article ends with comments from Oppo and future support plans. Future potential updates could include HDR10+. And I recall someone saying that wouldn’t likely be in the 205’s future. So there is some hope.

    http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/so-long-oppo-201804034553.htm

  175. Nelson Au

    I posted this on the Oppo 205 review thread, but thought I’d post it here too Incase it’s missed. Some possible good news from Oppo.

    I accidentally came across a post in a forum discussiing the Oppo 205. There was a link to an article on the HDTVtest website about Oppo’s shut down. The article ends with comments from Oppo and future support plans. Future potential updates could include HDR10+. And I recall someone saying that wouldn’t likely be in the 205’s future. So there is some hope.

    http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/so-long-oppo-201804034553.htm

    This is a key excerpt from the linked article:

    "Update (April 3rd, 2018): Jason Liao, CTO of OPPO Digital, took the time to respond to HDTVTest‘s questions regarding this news, and has clarified several important points. He stresses that while OPPO will not be introducing any new products, it is not disappearing, and will continue to support its existing customers and range of disc players, headphones and speaker.

    When asked what prompted OPPO’s decision to stop product development, Jason noted that no single reason influenced the decision. However, he stated that it was carefully chosen to come at a time when development of its UHD disc players had already been accomplished.

    Regarding future improvements, OPPO mentioned that a firmware update to support Dolby Vision with Sony TVs is currently being tested by Dolby, which suggests that it has largely been completed. Support for the upcoming HDR10+ standard is being investigated, and hinges on whether or not the current hardware is capable of decoding the metadata and passing the information on to the display. OPPO assures us that if the hardware can do it, support will indeed be added by firmware.

    To us, HDR10+ support being added to OPPO’s players seems likely. The company’s renowned customer service, close relationship with Mediatek, and the engineering ingenuity we mentioned earlier in the article, all give us confidence. Additionally, our current understanding is that the HDR10+ metadata is carried via the existing SEI message feature that is already part of the HEVC video standard, suggesting that changes on the playback side should be minimal. Of course, we’ll have to wait and see what ultimately transpires.

    Although we’ve seen the last of new hardware from the company, it sounds that OPPO fans still have a lot to look forward to."

  176. Well now this makes my decision even harder come this July when for my birthday, I'll be getting a new UHD Vizio 75" (M-Series or maybe a 2017 model P-Series since the price has dropped).

    Should I buy the Oppo 203 for my first and probably only Oppo? Or should I go with Sony's UBP-X700 and save about $200? I would get the region-free mods done on either one.

    Advice welcome.

  177. I've ordered what will be my final Oppo here in Australia, the 203 with all-region modification.
    Since my only previous purchase was of the 83, which is still performing brilliantly, I suspect I''m going to enjoy the new model for very many years. At the moment the prices of Australian units are holding steady … expect them to rise as supply dries up.

  178. I’m thinking of just trying to buy a 205 and if I do get one, saving it for when I do upgrade to a 4K display. If I should get lucky and find a 205, it will of course play regular 2D and 3D blu rays, so it could be used right away. But if I play a 4K disc to my regular HD plasma, I’ve read the image might not look that great. Is that true?

    IMHO it is not true and I believe most here will agree that it will not only still look good but the only thing the player will do is display the 4K content at 1080p resolution! The players in fact will also do the same function if your older 4K display is not HDCP 2.2 capable. Despite what ever your display technology weather it be LED, Plasma or OLED a 4K player connected to a non HDCP 4K display or 180p HD display will display the 4K content at 1080p HD resolution. So no it is not true and the content will still translate very well to a non 4K display. You will be just one move closer to a 4K chain buying the player ahead of the display. Only you can decide if you want to get the Oppo and you will have to decide if your willing to roll the dice in regards to future support of an Oppo player. I realize the company has stated they will continue to support the players but it is still a risk and that doesn't take away how good the Oppo players are. I started out with a 4K display that did not include HDCP 2.2 and I did get a 4K UHD Blu-ray players. The results where still good as the 4K content where in fact where converted and displayed at 1080p resolution and it still looked very good. At some point I want to ether move to a 4K projector or a larger newer display with Dolby Vision and HDR. But for the time being I was fortunate enough that the HDMI connections on my Samsung 4K TV are external. I was able to upgrade the HDMI hub to one that was HDCP 2.2 complaint and so now the display can handle the incoming 4K content from my 4K UHD Blu-ray player. Currently I am out of work so this is the only reason I have not purchased an Oppo 4K player and upgraded my Pioneer Elite receiver. If Oppo service of there product stops or something just as good comes out I may buy that instead. Another thing I wouldn't worry about is if your receiver doesn't have 4K switching or can pass the HDCP 2.2 to the display then as long as you have a HDCP 2.2 HDMI out for video/audio and a second audio only HDMI you will be fine! Just connect the HDCP 2.2 HDMI directly to your display and the audio only HDMI to your non 4K switching receiver and you will be golden!

    Here is an article I found interesting especially since Oppo's name is mentioned in the title of the article. So the question in regards to this article is will Pioneer start offering 4K UHD Blu-ray players? Will Pioneer produce players that will go after Oppo's customers and produce a product that will equal and replace what Oppo was/is currently producing?

    https://www.whathifi.com/news/pioneer-to-fill-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-gap-left-oppo

  179. Dave, I did get an Oppo 205. I upgraded from my 105. I did try a 4K disc last weekend. The main hic-cup I encountered was either the Panasonic plasma, or the Oppo was engaging and disengaging to show a black screen and re-engaging finally to show a picture and sound. It’s disconcerting. Must have been an HDMI issue. The image looked good, it was the Last Jedi 4K/Blu Ray combo set. I’d have to watch the blu ray to compare as there seemed to be a little color difference. I’ll probably give it one more shot with another 4K disc I have and if there is that switching going on, i’ll wait till I get a 4K display. The blu ray still looks mighty fine. The less I know, the better. 🙂

    By the way, i’ll check out the article you linked to.

  180. Dave, one of the really great upgrades of this Oppo 205 is built-in WiFi!

    So when I first set it up, I got the WiFi connected to my network and was notified there is a firmware update. The firmware in the Oppo was from last year! So i updated right away.

  181. Nelson Au

    Dave, one of the really great upgrades of this Oppo 205 is built-in WiFi!

    So when I first set it up, I got the WiFi connected to my network and was notified there is a firmware update. The firmware in the Oppo was from last year! So i updated right away.

    Since, I bought my first Oppo 203 in December, 2016, I've had at least four firmware updates as the built-in WiFi works great.

  182. When ever I update any equipment I always use the Ethernet and I really hate using the wifi as I do not view it as being secure and it doesn't help that the motel behind me has parolees and child molesters staying there. Also the Ethernet connection is way faster than wifi.

  183. Been debating with myself on whether to purchase a Oppo Blu-ray or 4k Bluray player (as Ive heard some of them are capable of region-free playback) while they still can be found new/ at retail. I'm on a fairly modest budget right now, therefore was wondering what's the cheapest good Oppo nonregion-capable player I might still find in "new" condition? Thanks a lot.

  184. Tom St Jones

    Been debating with myself on whether to purchase a Oppo Blu-ray or 4k Bluray player (as Ive heard some of them are capable of region-free playback) while they still can be found new/ at retail. I'm on a fairly modest budget right now, therefore was wondering what's the cheapest good Oppo nonregion-capable player I might still find in "new" condition? Thanks a lot.

    Tom, the lowest-price new player you can get is the UDP-203 at around $577 shipped. That's at Amazon (I just bought one a few days ago). Oddly, OPPO is sold out on their own website, but are still selling them via Amazon. No idea why, as they are the ones shipping them when you buy them at Amazon. In any case, they no longer make anything other than 4K players. You can find their older players in new condition, but the sellers have jacked the prices up through the roof.

    Is almost $600 for a player expensive? Yes. With that said, as someone who has owned an older OPPO Blu-ray player for around eight years, they are absolutely worth the money. They are built like tanks and will play any kind of disc you throw at them. I tried to go cheaper when it came time to upgrade to 4K and regretted it. Even at close to $200, the LG player I originally bought just looked "OK," had minimal settings, no front panel display, and a menu system that looked like a bottom-of-the-barrel DVD player from AliExpress. I missed the experience of using an OPPO so much, I bit the bullet and ordered the UDP-203. In short, spend the extra money on an OPPO. You won't regret it in the long run.

  185. Brian Kidd

    Tom, the lowest-price new player you can get is the UDP-203 at around $577 shipped. That's at Amazon (I just bought one a few days ago). Oddly, OPPO is sold out on their own website, but are still selling them via Amazon. No idea why, as they are the ones shipping them when you buy them at Amazon. In any case, they no longer make anything other than 4K players. You can find their older players in new condition, but the sellers have jacked the prices up through the roof.

    Is almost $600 for a player expensive? Yes. With that said, as someone who has owned an older OPPO Blu-ray player for around eight years, they are absolutely worth the money. They are built like tanks and will play any kind of disc you throw at them. I tried to go cheaper when it came time to upgrade to 4K and regretted it. Even at close to $200, the LG player I originally bought just looked "OK," had minimal settings, no front panel display, and a menu system that looked like a bottom-of-the-barrel DVD player from AliExpress. I missed the experience of using an OPPO so much, I bit the bullet and ordered the UDP-203. In short, spend the extra money on an OPPO. You won't regret it in the long run.

    Thanks a lot… When you said "will play any kind of disc you throw at them", I don't suppose that includes Divx? 🙂

  186. Tom St Jones

    Thanks a lot… When you said "will play any kind of disc you throw at them", I don't suppose that includes Divx? 🙂

    You know, deep in my heart, I feel like if OPPO could have made it work, they would have. Then we'd all be living in an alternate universe where Circuit City still dotted the landscape of every reasonably-sized city in the country.

  187. Tom St Jones

    Thanks a lot… When you said "will play any kind of disc you throw at them", I don't suppose that includes Divx? 🙂

    I don't think it plays laserdiscs or CEDs either.

  188. I just had the best experience with OPPO that both reminds me of how amazing their service is and how sad it will be when they are no more.

    When I bought my new TV last week, I hooked up my BDP-80 as a second player because it was modded to be region-free and I have quite a few discs from other regions. It wouldn't work. The only way I could get a picture that wasn't pink or green was to choose RGB as the color space and it had no sound no matter what I did. I had pretty much given up on being able to use it. After some digging, I found out my problem was caused by incompatibility with HDCP 2.2. Someone at another forum suggested contacting OPPO to see if there was a firmware update that would fix it. I initially poo-pooed the suggestion, reasoning that the BDP-80 was eight years old and the last firmware update was years ago. It was recommended that I try anyway, as someone else there had a BDP-83 with that issue and was able to get firmware from OPPO that fixed the problem. Figuring that all I'd be sacrificing was some time, I sent a message to OPPO support this morning. By this afternoon, they had responded with the firmware update to fix the issue.

    I can't think of any other manufacturer that goes above and beyond the call of duty to support legacy products like OPPO does. I don't regret for an instant ordering my new UDP-203 this week. They're the best.

  189. Tom St Jones

    Been debating with myself on whether to purchase a Oppo Blu-ray or 4k Bluray player (as Ive heard some of them are capable of region-free playback) while they still can be found new/ at retail. I'm on a fairly modest budget right now, therefore was wondering what's the cheapest good Oppo nonregion-capable player I might still find in "new" condition? Thanks a lot.

    Just keep in mind that 4K discs have no region coding, unlike DVD and blu-ray, so that is not an issue if you are strictly looking at 4K.

    And if you want to make the Oppo region-free for other discs, you will have to purchase an additional hardware modification kit sold separately at an additional cost from 3rd party retailers. To my knowledge, Oppo has never sold a player that is region-free right out of the box.

  190. Robert Crawford

    I own three different OPPO player models which are 93, 103 and 203. With this news, I decided to retire my 93 player and buy another 203 model that I'll place in my bedroom and move my 103 model to my Office HT setup.

    About a month later I finally finish the task of installation.

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