Obscure/Rare film you’d like that will never see the light of day?

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I’m curious as to what rare/obscure films out there people would love to have on BLU or even DVD that probably would never see the light of day. Which one or three would you most like? For me, it’s three Fox titles:

East LynneState FairThe White Parade, and The Pied Piper.

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  1. ahollis

    Who Killed Teddy Bear? A very obscure film with Elaine Strich, Sal Mineo, and Juliet Prowse. Obsure as they come.

    Not so obscure if you have a region free player. I have the DVD of Who Killed Teddy Bear from England and it was just announced a blu ray is forthcoming soon.

  2. Thomas T

    Not so obscure if you have a region free player. I have the DVD of Who Killed Teddy Bear from England and it was just announced a blu ray is forthcoming soon.

    Good to know. I have a bootleg copy, but would love a Blu. I do have a region free 3D player.

  3. Towing, a 1978 film starring Sue Lyon and Joe Mantegna. I've had this "thing" for Sue Lyon ever since Lolita and I've seen every film she's appeared in except for this one which is impossible to find.

  4. Some films I've never seen, but generally been on the lookout for…

    1. "One Hour Late" (1935-Par) Helen Twelvetrees, Joe Morrison
    2. "Miss Mink of 1949" (1949-Fox) James Lydon, Lois Collier
    3. "State Trooper" (1933-Col) Regis Toomey, Evalyn Knapp
    4. "Rendezvous 24" (1946-Fox) William Gargan, Maria Palmer
    5. "Undersea Girl" (1957-AA) Mara Corday, Pat Conway
    6. "Hollywood Boulevard" (1936-Par) John Halliday, Marsha Hunt
    7. "White Tie and Tails" (1946-Univ) Dan Duryea, Ella Raines
    8. "House of a Thousand Candles" (1936-Rep) Phillips Holmes, Mae Clarke
    9. "Night in New Orleans" (1942-Par) Preston Foster, Patricia Morison
    10. "Face in the Sky" (1932-Fox) Spencer Tracy, Marion Nixon
    11. "On the Isle of Samoa" (1950-Col) Jon Hall, Susan Cabot
    12. "Wild Horse Mesa" (1932-Par) Randolph Scott, Sally Blane

    Mostly B-stuff, and probably nothing special. But I'd like to see them.

    Two old favorites I have seen, and would like nice copies of:

    1. "Her Adventurous Night" (1946-Univ) Dennis O'Keefe, Helen Walker
    2. "Night Freight" (1955-AA) Forrest Tucker, Barbara Britton

  5. battlebeast

    I'm curious as to what rare/obscure films out there people would love to have on BLU or even DVD that probably would never see the light of day.

    These are so rare there probably aren't any existing prints, but…

    Charlie Chan Carries On
    Charlie Chan's Chance
    Charlie Chan's Greatest Case
    Charlie Chan's Courage

    —————

  6. ScottHM

    These are so rare there probably aren't any existing prints, but…

    Charlie Chan Carries On
    Charlie Chan's Chance
    Charlie Chan's Greatest Case
    Charlie Chan's Courage

    —————

    All of the above 4 early Chan films were apparently destroyed in the 1937 20th Century Fox vault fire. Given their relatively young age at that time, I'd say that they had most likely never even had the benefit of theatrical reissue, which would have likely meant additional fresh prints being struck. What a heartbreaking loss for Cinema! 🙁

    CHEERS! 🙂

  7. Stephen PI

    "THE STEEL BAYONET" (Hammer Films-1957) and "VISA TO CANTON" (Hammer Films-1961)

    I saw Visa To Canton when I was a small boy. I've never seen it since but I'd like to. I believe in some parts of the world it was re-titled Passport to Canton.

    The now obscure film I repeatedly go on about is The Hell With Heroes, a missing-in-action Universal movie from the late 1960s, starring Rod Taylor and Claudia Cardinale. Sadly, perhaps disgracefully, Universal won't even say why it's gone missing.

  8. The Greatest Story Ever Rolled!!

    Skatetown USA (1979)

    Never yet had any home media release probably due to music rights issues.

    A cult favorite nowadays, this film is notable for introducing Patrick Swayze in his first ever feature role as bad boy skate gang leader Ace Johnson.

  9. haineshisway

    In the never will see Blu-ray department, Frank Perry's Ladybug, Ladybug. Never had any kind of home video release. Shameful.

    I have been wanting this title also. Incredibly rare on VHS*, impossible on disc. However, I never thought I'd see A HIGH WIND IN JAMAICA on Blu-ray in spite of my many pleas for this here and on other forums, but lo and behold, it's coming out from Germany next month. So don't give up hope!

    *Any copies are most certainly illegal.

  10. ScottHM

    These are so rare there probably aren't any existing prints, but…

    Charlie Chan Carries On
    Charlie Chan's Chance
    Charlie Chan's Greatest Case
    Charlie Chan's Courage

    —————

    I didn't know that there were any Charlie Chan films on Blu Ray let alone these ?

  11. THE SCOUNDREL (1935)
    TRANSATLANTIC TUNNEL (1935)
    THE PERSONALS (1981)
    The five plays from Horton Foote's ORPHANS HOME cycle that were filmed:
    CONVICTS
    LILY DALE
    COURTSHIP
    ON VALENTINE'S DAY
    1918
    (Just to clarify, four of the ORPHANS HOME films were released on DVD. I'm responding
    strictly to Obscure Films Desired on Blu-Ray.)

  12. ScottHM

    These are so rare there probably aren't any existing prints, but…

    Charlie Chan Carries On
    Charlie Chan's Chance
    Charlie Chan's Greatest Case
    Charlie Chan's Courage

    —————

    Charlie Chan Carries On is on YouTube.

  13. CarlosMeat

    I didn't know that there were any Charlie Chan films on Blu Ray let alone these ?

    You are correct – the only 30's – 40's mystery series that have made it to blu ray (to my knowledge) is Rathbone's Sherlock Holmes. Not even the Thin Man has made it.

  14. StephenDH

    Charlie Chan Carries on is on YouTube.

    Sorry just saw someone already posted this info.
    Erin Trece is the Spanish version with a different cast – it exists – CC Carries On – Warner Oland is still a lost film

    For more stuff on Charlie Chan and other 30's 40's mystery series – please check out our thread in movies. We'd love to have you all visit. 😎

  15. One I'd particularly love to get in any form is L'Amour a 1973 jaunty comedy jointly written and directed by Paul Morrissey and Andy Warhol. It's a fun and not-as-disjointed-as-usual Factory romp concerning two hippy girls trying find rich husbands while cavorting in the streets of Paris. Actually, it's sort sort of a surreal screwball comedy with a complex plot that works well and ends up quite charming and memorable. That's how I remember it from seeing it twice in 1973. Also, for John Waters fans, what is the status of Mondo Trasho now that Multiple Maniacs has gotten its deluxe Criterion treatment?

  16. StarDestroyer52

    I like to see a release of 1932's Speak Easily even on DVD from better companies that have released it so far.

    "Speak Easily" was released by WAC in a triple feature Keaton MGM talkies set that also included "The Passionate Plumber" and "Parlor, Bedroom, and Bath." I don't think that the film was remastered, but it's probably the best version we'll see of the film for the time being.
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    Tony Bensley

    All of the above 4 early Chan films were apparently destroyed in the 1937 20th Century Fox vault fire. Given their relatively young age at that time, I'd say that they had most likely never even had the benefit of theatrical reissue, which would have likely meant additional fresh prints being struck. What a heartbreaking loss for Cinema! 🙁

    CHEERS! 🙂

    If the four missing Chan films are only half as good as "The Black Camel" is, we've certainly lost some great films. There is a rumor that collector and historian William K. Everson may have had a 16mm print of "Charlie Chan's Case." Whatever happened to that print (assuming that such a print existed) is anyone's guess. It does give us some hope that it could be recovered someday like "Charlie Chan in Paris" was in the 1970s.

    As for me, I will go with "A Country Hero" (the only missing Arbuckle/Keaton short and for that matter the only completely missing Keaton silent), "The Rogue Song" (probably a turgid film, but I enjoy opera and L&H), "Red Hair" (at least the Technicolor bit seems to have survived), "Escapade" (legal snafus), and "Hat's Off." It may be just as well that "Hat's Off" is lost. Should it be recovered, it would probably be held hostage just like the nearly complete "The Battle of the Century" is for those of us who aren't able to attend specific film festivals.

  17. Two Paramount UK films: Only When I Larf and Unman, Wittering & Zigo. I don’t think it’s a rights issue, just apathy of Paramount’s part, but to my knowledge they’ve never had a home video release on any format.

    (And on the subject of lost films, I once got a Tweet asking if I had any of the lost reels of Greed in my attic. Alas, I do not.)

  18. Ross Gowland

    Two Paramount UK films: Only When I Larf and Unman, Wittering & Zigo. I don’t think it’s a rights issue, just apathy of Paramount’s part, but to my knowledge they’ve never had a home video release on any format.

    (And on the subject of lost films, I once got a Tweet asking if I had any of the lost reels of Greed in my attic. Alas, I do not.)

    Hi Ross!

    Perhaps that Tweet was prompted by your surname being the same as that of GREED (1924) star Gibson Gowland? Are you of any relation to him, by chance?

    CHEERS! 🙂

  19. Hi, Tony.

    Yes, Gibson is/was a distant relative of mine. Unhappily for me, I actually look quite a bit like him (only with less hair). Oh! why couldn't I have been related to Errol Flynn or Robert Redford??? 😉

  20. Letty Lynton with Joan Crawford and Robert Montgomery

    Per Wikipedia:
    Letty Lynton has been unavailable since a federal District Court ruled on January 17, 1936 that the script used by MGM followed too closely the play Dishonored Lady (1930) by Edward Sheldon and Margaret Ayer Barnes without acquiring the rights to the play or giving credit.

  21. Terror Aboard (1933)
    Zoo in Budapest (1933)
    Diamond Jim (1935)
    Among the Living (1941)
    The Face Behind the Mask (1941)
    The Remarkable Andrew (1942)
    The Unseen (1945)
    The Spider Woman Strikes Back (1946)
    Fear in the Night (1947) – restored print
    Canon City (1948)
    Alias Nick Beal (1949)
    Crosswinds (1951)
    The Last Outpost (1951)
    The Redhead and the Cowboy (1951)
    The Scarf (1951)
    The Charge at Feather River (1953) – 3D presentation
    I, The Jury (1953) – 3D presentation
    The Twonky (1953)
    Hell's Island (1955)
    Space Master X-7 (1958)
    The Head (1959) – restored print
    Macumba Love (1960)
    The Thief of Baghdad (1961)
    My Son, the Hero (1962)
    Planets Against Us (1962)
    The Little Prince and the Eight-Headed Dragon (1963, animated)
    Beloved Invaders: The Ventures (1965)
    Let's Kill Uncle (1966)
    The Magic Serpent (1966)
    Mission Stardust (1967)
    The Bliss of Mrs. Blossom (1968)
    They Ran for Their Lives (1968)
    I Start Counting… (1970)
    To Kill a Clown (1972)
    The Last Days of Planet Earth (1974)
    Sharks' Treasure (1975)
    The Savage Bees (1976)
    Split Image (1982)
    Past Tense (1994)

  22. The Deep Blue Sea (1955) with Vivien Leigh and Kenneth More from Terence Rattigan's play. A Fox CinemaScope, color film (but produced by Korda's London Films) which I only saw once about 40 years ago on black and white TV in a pan and scan version. The film seems to have completely disappeared.

    On the Night of the Fire (1939) (titled The Fugitive in the US). A sort of early British noir of with Ralph Richardson who opportunistically steals money from an unattended cashier's office; an action which escalates with Richardson ending up as a fugitive wanted for murder. Directed by Brian Desmond Hurst, best known for the classic film Scrooge (1951) and scored by Miklos Rozsa. ITV Studios are current rights owners.

  23. What's So Bad About Feeling Good?, where a toucan carrying a rare happiness virus gets loose and infects New Yorkers. Stars Mary Tyler Moore, George Peppard, John McMartin, Susan Saint James and (unfortunately) Dom DeLuise. Directed and Co-Authored by George Seaton (Miracle on 34th Street, The Country Girl, 36 Hours, Airport).

  24. I'm presuming you mean 'on Blu ray' …
    I'd love to see 'So Long at the Fair' with Jean Simmons and Dirk Bogarde .. .too obscure for BR release, I fear.
    As, maybe, are the two Glenn Miller films 'Sun Valley Serenade' and 'Orchestra Wives' … especially for The Nicholas Brothers' unbelievable appearance in 'I've got a Girl from Kalamazoo…..'

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  26. battlebeast

    State Fair

    State Fair is on Blu-ray. I own it. The catch is it's available exclusively in Amazon's Rodgers & Hammerstein box set and not available individually. But it is there and it looks great.

  27. Jake Lipson

    State Fair is on Blu-ray. I own it. The catch is it's available exclusively in Amazon's Rodgers & Hammerstein box set and not available individually. But it is there and it looks great.

    I'm sure he meant the Will Rogers/Janet Gaynor State Fair from the 1930s.

  28. Jake Lipson

    State Fair is on Blu-ray. I own it. The catch is it's available exclusively in Amazon's Rodgers & Hammerstein box set and not available individually. But it is there and it looks great.

    I am talking about the 1933 Will Rogers version. I don't think it's EVER been released. It was selected for preservATION AT THE LoC in 2014… so there must be a pretty good element that could be used to release the film… but now that Disney owns it, I doubt we'll ever see it.

  29. PEPE(Columbia). I wrote, some time ago, to Screen Archives Entertainment about this film as they do Columbia and they told me they would to do it on Blu Ray. I did tell them that I understood there was at least one song outtake cut from this long and entertaining film, to me existing. Not sure if this is still true. Columbia did do some singles releases(and added them in box sets) of Mario's Mexican films and I have some of those, at least. My Mum and my younger sisters saw this film downtown when it was new and we loved it. My Mum and I somtim in the 1980s came home in the wee hours from delivery newspapers and catalogues door to door to sit up and watch a TV broadcast in that time slot. I had to be up by five to get ready to open a shop. I made it but have not seen the film since. SAE/TT had to cancel TCF's Centennial Summer for some rights issue that came up. They rejected TCF's April Love as given to them and re-programmed it when TCF presented better material. The Fox DVD-R was 4.3 and somewhat very poor visual presentation.

    There were three(I think) of the c1930 Chans that survived until the end of the 50s and these nitrates were said to have been lost in another Fox fire around this time and I guess TV masters had not been done by this time and, at last, one turned up in a Spanish version. A report said more silents were lost and Theda Bara was mentioned but I have not read proof of that. Zoo in Budapest(1933) was one of the 50 found in the Fox vaults as workprints by the late Alex Gordon after he left the Gene Autry archives. There is a 9.01mins clip on YT. I thought the full film was but…

  30. This is a great idea for a thread. There are three films off the top of my head which are "holy grail" items of mine which I don't expect to ever find, but I'd love to be wrong.

    One is Passione d'amore, the Italian film that provided the inspiration for Stephen Sondheim and James Lapine to write their musical Passion. I've never seen this, but love the musical so much I would buy a Blu-ray or even a DVD out of curiosity.

    Second is Collected Stories, a PBS film adaptation of the play staring Linda Lavin. This was made in 2002 and released on VHS, but I don't think whoever owns the rights even remembers it exists at this point, and there was no disc. Two close friends of mine performed in the show while we were in college together, and it was one of the best productions I saw in six years there. I'd buy the movie version on disc in a second. I actually bought the VHS on eBay and tried to take it to a VHS-to-DVD conversion place, but they wouldn't make one for me because I didn't own the copyright, even though it would only have been for personal use. I tried to explain that if the copyright holder were to release an official version, I' d be first in line to buy it, but that made no difference.

    Thirdly, I saw a movie a number of years ago at a film festival (maybe 2004 or so?) called Love's Brother. I don't remember a lot about it at this point, but I really enjoyed it and would love to buy it and see it again, but I don't think it ever got distribution. It was a love triangle mistaken identity sort of thing where a shy guy who was courting a girl in letters sends her a photo of his more attractive brother instead of his own photo, so she arrives and thinks she's fallen in love with the wrong brother. I remember thinking it was a really sweet film, but I've never found it for purchase or rental anywhere unfortunately.

  31. Jake Lipson

    Collected Stories, a PBS film adaptation of the play staring Linda Lavin. This was made in 2002 and released on VHS, but I don't think whoever owns the rights even remembers it exists at this point, and there was no disc. Two close friends of mine performed in the show while we were in college together, and it was one of the best productions I saw in six years there. I'd buy the movie version on disc in a second.

    I was fortunate enough to see Collected Stories off Broadway starring the acting legend Uta Hagen on a visit to New York In (I believe) 1999. I even got to talk with her briefly after the performance. I believe it was her final acting appearance as she passed away not long after.

  32. I had a VHS copy of “The Electric Grandmother” with Maureen Stapleton based on the Ray Bradbury story, which I used for years in my highschool class. Students liked the story, but for some reason every adult who saw it was basically sobbing in a fetal position by the end. 🙂 I usually had to stand out in the hall myself!
    If Amazon had a good copy DVD or Blu, I’d buy it in an instant. All I can find are grey market copies at premium prices.

  33. So many good ones already mentioned!

    As a Claude Rains maniac, I would love to see CRIME WITHOUT PASSION (1934) from Hecht and MacArthur, replete with those Vorkapich Furies! This would be a prime picture for Criterion to license from Universal!

    Curiously, I have the Vorkapich opening sequence on DVD, but not the movie from which it was derived!

  34. I am going to throw in one, a tad more zesty than the aforementioned. I read that this will never happen but a blu-ray release of the Russ Meyer movies (The Vixen series as well as Mondo) with Meyer's commentary would be great. I have the LD set but would be nice to get an upgrade.

  35. Not terribly obscure, but where in the world are The Bad News Bears (1976) and Muriel's Wedding??

    If you want obscure, I would like to see "The Daydreamer" starring Jack Gilford and Ray Bolger. It did come out on dvd way, way back in the day. Not the best transfer either. This movie has some of Rankin/Bass' best animation and good songs, but most people don't seem to know of its existence.

  36. J. Casey

    So many good ones already mentioned!

    As a Claude Rains maniac, I would love to see CRIME WITHOUT PASSION (1934) from Hecht and MacArthur, replete with those Vorkapich Furies! This would be a prime picture for Criterion to license from Universal!

    Curiously, I have the Vorkapich opening sequence on DVD, but not the movie from which it was derived!

    "Crime Without Passion" (1934) is quite good. With "The Scoundrel" (1935) also already being mentioned (which I found interesting, if a bit talky), maybe a 'Hecht-McCarthur at Paramount' dvd-set would be a nifty idea. I'd love to also see their "Soak the Rich" (1936) again. I recall it being aired on the USA Network, of all places, back in the early-1980s. I've never seen the last one, "Once in a Blue Moon" (1936).

  37. Gary Seven

    I am going to throw in one, a tad more zesty than the aforementioned. I read that this will never happen but a blu-ray release of the Russ Meyer movies (The Vixen series as well as Mondo) with Meyer's commentary would be great. I have the LD set but would be nice to get an upgrade.

    I don't understand Russ Meyer's website. They still sell VHS and Laserdiscs – believe it or not.

    http://www.rmfilms.com/products/

    Then they released a bare bones, but very nice-looking blu ray of Faster Pussycat Kill! Kill! in 2015, which sold out immediately. But do they reprint it? No. Do they release anything else? No.

  38. titch

    I don't understand Russ Meyer's website. They still sell VHS and Laserdiscs – believe it or not.

    http://www.rmfilms.com/products/

    Then they released a bare bones, but very nice-looking blu ray of Faster Pussycat Kill! Kill! in 2015, which sold out immediately. But do they reprint it? No. Do they release anything else? No.

    They're selling old 90s dvds with some of the worst cover art ever created. Makes those movies look even more amateurish and schlocky than they actually are.

  39. Pandemonium (1982). I'm well aware that it isn't a great film, but it was an HBO staple during my childhood and I'm quite fond of it. It never even made it to DVD. I have a battered VHS tape of it and I believe it was either briefly available digitally or else it aired on MGM HD or some similar channel because there's a better-than-VHS-quality file of it floating around. Still, I'd love a legit DVD or Blu-ray of it.

  40. Fear is the Key (1972)

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    I believe Paramount is the US rights holder, so I'll wait on this to be released while I await winning the Powerball lottery. It's available streaming in SD I believe but no DVD/BD release.

  41. atfree

    Fear is the Key (1972)

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    I believe Paramount is the US rights holder, so I'll wait on this to be released while I await winning the Powerball lottery. It's available streaming in SD I believe but no DVD/BD release.

    It used to be available on a Region 2 DVD. I have it. It may still be available.

  42. Robin9

    It used to be available on a Region 2 DVD. I have it. It may still be available.

    Yes, it was released in Region 2 on DVD, I've seen it for sale on Amazon recently. I was speaking of US releases of which there have been none.

  43. Patrick McCart

    Warner Archive released it on DVD in widescreen, with both audio mixes, and a commentary.

    Though, it's puzzling why it didn't get a Blu-ray release.

    Sometimes Warner Archive will test the waters with a widescreen release on DVD before committing to a Blu-ray, just to get a feel for demand for the title.

  44. I guess Warner considers these films rare and obscure—GOODBYE MR CHIPS—PENNIES FROM HEAVEN—-LOCAL HERO—UP THE DOWN STAIRCASE—-WHOS LIFE IS IT ANYWAY?—-SURVIVING PICASSO—-THE SHELTERING SKY—-THE BUTCHER BOY—WRESTLING ERNEST HEMINGWAY.

  45. AN INSPECTOR CALLS – Alastair Sim
    THE WINSLOW BOY -Robert Donat
    LAST HOLIDAY (please re-release it, but this time in Blu Ray) – Alec Guinness
    NIGHT WORLD – Lew Ayers, Boris Karloff, Mae Clarke
    KITTY – Paulette Goddard, Ray Milland

    for starters

  46. Ethan Riley

    Not terribly obscure, but where in the world are The Bad News Bears (1976) and Muriel's Wedding??

    If you want obscure, I would like to see "The Daydreamer" starring Jack Gilford and Ray Bolger. It did come out on dvd way, way back in the day. Not the best transfer either. This movie has some of Rankin/Bass' best animation and good songs, but most people don't seem to know of its existence.

    BAD NEWS BEARS = Paramount = You're Out Of Luck.

  47. BarryM

    AN INSPECTOR CALLS – Alastair Sim
    THE WINSLOW BOY -Robert Donat
    LAST HOLIDAY (please re-release it, but this time in Blu Ray) – Alec Guinness
    NIGHT WORLD – Lew Ayers, Boris Karloff, Mae Clarke
    KITTY – Paulette Goddard, Ray Milland

    for starters

    An Inspector Calls is out on a very good U. K. Zone B Blu-ray disc.

  48. Robin9

    An Inspector Calls is out on a very good U. K. Zone B Blu-ray disc.

    It sure is. I watched my copy a week or two ago, and the transfer was superb. I was SO happy to add this gem to my collection.

  49. Matt Hough

    It sure is. I watched my copy a week or two ago, and the transfer was superb. I was SO happy to add this gem to my collection.

    Thanks for the tip, guys. I just placed my order on Amazon.

  50. Robin9

    An Inspector Calls is out on a very good U. K. Zone B Blu-ray disc.

    Strongly disagree. It was shot for widescreen and has been transferred at 1.37:1 open matte. There's tons of headroom and footroom throughout and the camera is contantly tilting to keep heads in shot that are now nowhere near the top of the frame. Try rewatching it cropped to at least 1.66:1 and see the original compositions come to life. There's a lot of discussion on it in Bob's Aspect Ratio Documentaion thread; just do a search for the film's title.

    StudioCanal have released it repeatedly – four times on DVD in the UK alone – and cocked it up every time. On top of that, though the latest DVD and BD is a premium priced release, the only extra is a brief interview with one of the actors. A woeful, missed opportunity to finally do this great film justice.

  51. DREAM DEMON (1988) – A superb UK horror starring (weirdly) Timothy Spall and Jimmy Nail. This never even had an official DVD release, other than a grey-market Greek release with awful picture quality.

    This seems absolutely ripe for an Arrow / 88 Films / Severin rediscovery. Seems a bit obscure for a Shout! release, I think.

  52. The Joker is Wild (1957) Paramount Vistavision. With Frank Sinatra. Never released on dvd. Paramount is Terrible ! So many Classic movies that should be released on Bluray that will NEVER happen. What a shame. : (

  53. trajan007

    I guess Warner considers these films rare and obscure—GOODBYE MR CHIPS—PENNIES FROM HEAVEN—-LOCAL HERO—UP THE DOWN STAIRCASE—-WHOS LIFE IS IT ANYWAY?—-SURVIVING PICASSO—-THE SHELTERING SKY—-THE BUTCHER BOY—WRESTLING ERNEST HEMINGWAY.

    I wouldn't think so; Warner Archive has one of the more modest budgets in the company, so testing the waters with MOD DVD is a good way for them to gauge demand. We all have our favourites, but WAC is not going to invest in an HD rescan and cleanup unless they have some hard data to show demand. If these titles are what you want, go over to the WAC on Facebook and make the request.

  54. For what it's worth, I think there are some very different definitions of "obscure/rare" in this thread. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. For me, I wouldn't consider something obscure/rare if it was available in print on any physical or digital media format. There are plenty of movies that I like that aren't on Blu-ray, but I don't think they're obscure just because they're not in an HD format.

    To me, "obscure" is something like "Sinners In The Sun," which was an early talkie where Cary Grant had a blink-and-you-miss-it appearance early in his career. I think it's only his second or third film ever. It was never released on commercial VHS, DVD, or BD, and has never been made available on a streaming service. It also hasn't been broadcast on TV since the 1980s. There's a version on YouTube that appears to be from a VHS copy of a copy of a copy made from a TV broadcast probably thirty or forty years ago. That, to me, is where the definition of rare/obscure begins. Kubrick's "Fear and Desire" was a rare/obscure film for decades until Kino put it out in 2012 – I'd no longer consider it rare given that it's now readily available.

  55. Dinosaurus ,
    Fiend Without A Face
    Legend Of Tom Dooley
    Don't Knock The Twist /Twist Around The Clock
    Ring Of Fire (1961)
    The Great Imposter
    Harry And Tonto ,
    The Woman Eater
    Safe At Home
    Fear Strikes Out
    Masquerade (1965)
    Tom Thumb
    The Mysterians
    The Giant Claw
    Terror Is A Man
    Hercules /Hercules Unchained
    Any East Side Kids Films

  56. Josh Steinberg

    For what it's worth, I think there are some very different definitions of "obscure/rare" in this thread. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. For me, I wouldn't consider something obscure/rare if it was available in print on any physical or digital media format. There are plenty of movies that I like that aren't on Blu-ray, but I don't think they're obscure just because they're not in an HD format

    Getting into the levels of real rarity, how about some of the films from the poverty-row Liberty Pictures Corporation? One of their last features is the memorably-titled "Dizzy Dames" (1935). Always had a hankering to have this film prominently displayed on a bookshelf for just the title alone. Probably isn't too good a film, but I'd like to see it (at least it has Inez Courtney in it, whom I've always liked). Another Liberty rarity is "School for Girls" (1934), which stars Sidney Fox, but also sports names like Toby Wing and Lona Andre in the cast. Must be quite a school. Several other titles seem just as rare (maybe even lost?), like "Cheaters" (1934), "No Ransom" (1934), "Born to Gamble" (1935).

  57. Stephen_J_H

    I wouldn't think so; Warner Archive has one of the more modest budgets in the company, so testing the waters with MOD DVD is a good way for them to gauge demand. We all have our favourites, but WAC is not going to invest in an HD rescan and cleanup unless they have some hard data to show demand. If these titles are what you want, go over to the WAC on Facebook and make the request.

    I have made these requests to Warner a number of times over the years.

  58. LouA

    Dinosaurus ,
    Fiend Without A Face
    Legend Of Tom Dooley
    Don't Knock The Twist /Twist Around The Clock
    Ring Of Fire (1961)
    The Great Imposter
    Harry And Tonto ,
    The Woman Eater
    Safe At Home
    Fear Strikes Out
    Masquerade (1965)
    Tom Thumb
    The Mysterians
    The Giant Claw
    Terror Is A Man
    Hercules /Hercules Unchained
    Any East Side Kids Films

    Harry and Tonto!

  59. Brent Reid

    Strongly disagree. It was shot for widescreen and has been transferred at 1.37:1 open matte. There's tons of headroom and footroom throughout and the camera is contantly tilting to keep heads in shot that are now nowhere near the top of the frame. Try rewatching it cropped to at least 1.66:1 and see the original compositions come to life. There's a lot of discussion on it in Bob's Aspect Ratio Documentaion thread; just do a search for the film's title.

    StudioCanal have released it repeatedly – four times on DVD in the UK alone – and cocked it up every time. On top of that, though the latest DVD and BD is a premium priced release, the only extra is a brief interview with one of the actors. A woeful, missed opportunity to finally do this great film justice.

    An Inspector Calls was made in 1954, a time when films makers "protected" for more than one ratio. I'm willing to believe that a wide screen ratio was the preferred format but an alternative ratio that was catered for by the film makers does not ruin the film.

    Ratio zealots sometimes get carried away by their enthusiasm. There are some much loved classics, such as Shane and Sabrina, which were not seen in the intended ratio until the arrival of Blu-ray discs. That did not prevent people from enjoying Shane and Sabrina, and showing those films in the "wrong" ratio did not ruin them.

  60. Robin9

    An Inspector Calls was made in 1954, a time when films makers "protected" for more than one ratio. I'm willing to believe that a wide screen ratio was the preferred format but an alternative ratio that was catered for by the film makers does not ruin the film.

    Ratio zealots sometimes get carried away by their enthusiasm. There are some much loved classics, such as Shane and Sabrina, which were not seen in the intended ratio until the arrival of Blu-ray discs. That did not prevent people from enjoying Shane and Sabrina, and showing those films in the "wrong" ratio did not ruin them.

    This is not the place for an ongoing aspect ratio discussion; there is already a long-running and highly informative thread for that. I respectfully suggest you try reading it and educate yourself properly on the subject, as did I. Furthermore, cinema enthusiasts who care passionately about the correct and highest quality possible presentation of films are not "zealots", myself included. This forum happens to cater specifically for them; again I suggest you read HTF's mission statement. Lastly, acquaint yourself with HTF's rules, especially the section on conduct. Personal attacks – even passive-aggressive ones such as yours – on those whose opinions (in this case, facts) you disagree with are not permitted.

    The bottom line is StudioCanal botched their transfer. There is only one correct aspect ratio per any professionally shot, theatrically released film and anything else compromises the makers' artistic intent. The correct one should be reflected on any quality home video release.

  61. Brent Reid

    This is not the place for an ongoing aspect ratio discussion; there is already a long-running and highly informative thread for that. I respectfully suggest you try reading it and educate yourself properly on the subject, as did I. Furthermore, cinema enthusiasts who care passionately about the correct and highest quality possible presentation of films are not "zealots", myself included. This forum happens to cater specifically for them; again I suggest you read HTF's mission statement. Lastly, acquaint yourself with HTF's rules, especially the section on conduct. Personal attacks – even passive-aggressive ones such as yours – on those whose opinions (in this case, facts) you disagree with are not permitted.

    The bottom line is StudioCanal botched their transfer. There is only one correct aspect ratio per any professionally shot, theatrically released film and anything else compromises the makers' artistic intent. The correct one should be reflected on any quality home video release.

    You have this curious tendency to adopt a superior attitude and to try to lecture people. I am fully familiar with the various threads about aspect ratios and I am aware of HTF rules. The word zealot is not an insult. It means someone who is an uncompromising partisan. I was making a generalisation and the word was not directed at you. If, however, you feel the cap fits, please don't blame me.

  62. Two films I’d like to see

    Holiday ‘30
    I’ve only seen a YouTube version that is not the best quality. If the more popular ‘38 version ever comes to Blu, I would love it if this was included, even in SD.

    The Cheaters ‘45
    Not as obscure as it once was. TCM has shown a nice print a few times in that past few years.

  63. Robin9

    An Inspector Calls was made in 1954, a time when films makers "protected" for more than one ratio. I'm willing to believe that a wide screen ratio was the preferred format but an alternative ratio that was catered for by the film makers does not ruin the film.

    Ratio zealots sometimes get carried away by their enthusiasm. There are some much loved classics, such as Shane and Sabrina, which were not seen in the intended ratio until the arrival of Blu-ray discs. That did not prevent people from enjoying Shane and Sabrina, and showing those films in the "wrong" ratio did not ruin them.

    The Last Emperor is in the wrong aspect ratio. Criterion choose not to use the Original ratio, but rather the one "suggested" by the DoP or Director. They cut off WAAAAAYYYY too much of the picture. It ruins the composition and takes away from Vittorio Storaro's Oscar winning cinematography.

    OAR, please!

  64. Another RARE title I'd love to see is Disraeli. When Warners first started the Archive, they released a few George Arliss titles, but Disraeli wasn't one of them. I asked them about this title, and they refered me to the podcast. So I asked them about the title and the missing footage, but they skirted my question, not really answering.

    I'd love to see it, and hopefully they could find the missing three minutes or so to put back in like they did with Viva Villa!.

  65. battlebeast

    The Last Emperor is in the wrong aspect ratio. Criterion choose not to use the Original ratio, but rather the one "suggested" by the DoP or Director. They cut off WAAAAAYYYY too much of the picture. It ruins the composition and takes away from Vittorio Storaro's Oscar winning cinematography.

    OAR, please!

    Yeah, I think Storaro himself was the culprit behind the chosen aspect ratio on the Criterion disc! Since he was the DP, I respect the choice but don't like it!

  66. battlebeast

    Another RARE title I'd love to see is Disraeli. When Warners first started the Archive, they released a few George Arliss titles, but Disraeli wasn't one of them. I asked them about this title, and they refered me to the podcast. So I asked them about the title and the missing footage, but they skirted my question, not really answering.

    I'd love to see it, and hopefully they could find the missing three minutes or so to put back in like they did with Viva Villa!.

    I saw Disraeli on television decades ago (just a local channel broadcast long before TCM or AMC were in existence), and it was just this one time. I would dearly love to see it again (or better yet, own it). I know it's an early sound film and quite primitive in that respect, but all the Jolson early sound films are available, and I'd sure love this one to be.

  67. Matt Hough

    I saw Disraeli on television decades ago (just a local channel broadcast long before TCM or AMC were in existence), and it was just this one time. I would dearly love to see it again (or better yet, own it). I know it's an early sound film and quite primitive in that respect, but all the Jolson early sound films are available, and I'd sure love this one to be.

    For an early sound film, it's in remarkable shape…

    When I was watching all 494 Best Picture nominees in 365 days (March 2010 – March 2011), I contacted TCM to suggest some films to play, and they played ALL the ones I suggested, all the ones I needed to see that were NOT available to me. Disraeli was one of them. While it is cropped on one side, and there are lots of scratches, debris, detritus and other blemishes, it is watchable; I'm sure Warners would do and amazing job restoring and/or remastering it for release. The audio (sound on disc?) has lots of crackling and pops, etc., but that can be corrected fairly well.

    I think, and this is just speculation, that it hasn't been released because three minutes is still missing.

    George Arliss won the Oscar for his performance; he isn't terrible by today's standards. The film is definetly a product of it's time. I think I have it saved on my PVR, so maybe i'll watch it again soon.

  68. J. Casey

    Mine is locked region "B' (Anchor Bay CIRCUS WORLD)

    usrunnr

    Is it all region? Thanks.

    Circus World is region B alright but on some Panasonic Blu-ray players like mine when you get the message on the screen you press the stop button twice and then press the top menu on the remote and on certain discs like Circus World you can see the movie.

  69. Still waiting for The Grey Fox (1982), which remains VHS only. Panamint Cinema was planning a Blu-ray a few years back, but it suddenly got memory-holed…

    The Return of Martin Guerre (1982) is also VHS only (and bootleg discs).

    Between Friends (1973, dir. Don Shebib) has NEVER had a home video release. There aren’t even any bootlegs.

  70. Obscure today but not in their time so many beautiful color musicals from the 40s and 50s the Alice Faye and Betty Grable musicals. Twilight Time did a great job with The Gangs all Here. Gorgeous color MGM musicals which inexplicably have never been released like Ziegfeld Follies, Yolanda and the Thief, Till the Crowds Roll By, Good News, Words and Music and Royal Wedding. These all deserve major restorations. But nobody knows them anymore or too few people?
    Yet we get major bombs like Finian’s Rainbow and Dr Dolittle. I’m sure we’ll get the abysmal Star! soon. Very strange.

    No Summertime? No Fall of the Roman Empire? No Around the World in 80 Days? No El Cid? No Ivanhoe? No Scaramouche? Blu ray has been around a long time yet we have a gazillion rotten exploitation and horror films. A reflection of today’s tastes? And The Odd Couple one of the most popular comedies of all time goes now for hundreds of dollars? What is going on? Rights issues? But what about the original DVDs and the foreign blu ray issues? Sad and frustrating.

  71. I had to order a grey market copy of Cruisin' Down the RIver (1953).

    It's an obscure Dick Haymes musical, one of his last. His singing is at his best in the movie.
    It was one of the movie jobs which his girfriend Rita Hayworth got for him.

    The director was Richard Quine who has gotten more recognition as an auteur in recent years.

    The Bell Sisters are in this one too. They participated in two movies one of which was released on Blu last year Those Redheads From Seattle (1953).

    Connie Russell is an obscure actress and recording star.

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  72. The 1969 drama Last Summer with Richard Thomas, Barbara Hershey, and Bruce Davison very early in their careers with an Oscar-nominated performance by Catherine Burns. It was directed by Frank Perry with a screenplay by his then-wife Eleanor based on a book by Evan Hunter aka Ed McBain of the "87th Precinct" novels. It was out on VHS in the 80s, and I believe that Warner Bros. owns the rights now, though according to Wikipedia practically all of the 35mm prints are gone. Does anyone out there know the current status of this film (which I have always loved!) and its chances of a DVD/Blu-ray release?

  73. The 1969 drama Last Summer with Richard Thomas, Barbara Hershey, and Bruce Davison very early in their careers with an Oscar-nominated performance by Catherine Burns. It was directed by Frank Perry with a screenplay by his then-wife Eleanor based on a book by Evan Hunter aka Ed McBain of the "87th Precinct" novels. It was out on VHS in the 80s, and I believe that Warner Bros. owns the rights now, though according to Wikipedia practically all of the 35mm prints are gone. Does anyone out there know the current status of this film (which I have always loved!) and its chances of a DVD/Blu-ray release?

  74. The only Russ Meyer feature that know of that has never had a home video release is the 1971 The Seven Minutes which was a 20th Century-Fox release made after Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, but didn't do that well at the boxoffice since it was a straightforward drama about an obscenity trial concerning a banned book. It was based on the Irving Wallace bestseller and was for the most part surprisingly faithful to the book. This should have been out on video years ago!

  75. Charles Ellis

    The only Russ Meyer feature that know of that has never had a home video release is the 1971 The Seven Minutes which was a 20th Century-Fox release made after Beyond the Valley of the Dolls

    This one's available on DVD from Arrow in the UK. There is apparently no high definition master for this title, at least not so far.

  76. THE CAT CREEPS (1930)
    THE BAT WHISPERS (1930, BOTH 70MM AND 1.33:1)
    THE EAGLE (1925) WITH CARL DAVIS SCORE
    THE ALAMO (1960)
    SOUTH PACIFIC (1958) WITH DELETED SCENES IN HD
    DR. X (1932) BOTH COLOR AND B&W
    THE MYSTERY OF THE WAX MUSEUM (1932) COLOR
    THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE (1967)
    THAT DARN CAT (1965)

  77. roxy1927

    Obscure today but not in their time so many beautiful color musicals from the 40s and 50s the Alice Faye and Betty Grable musicals. Twilight Time did a great job with The Gangs all Here. Gorgeous color MGM musicals which inexplicably have never been released like Ziegfeld Follies, Yolanda and the Thief, Till the Crowds Roll By, Good News, Words and Music and Royal Wedding. These all deserve major restorations. But nobody knows them anymore or too few people?
    Yet we get major bombs like Finian's Rainbow and Dr Dolittle. I'm sure we'll get the abysmal Star! soon. Very strange.

    No Summertime? No Fall of the Roman Empire? No Around the World in 80 Days? No El Cid? No Ivanhoe? No Scaramouche? Blu ray has been around a long time yet we have a gazillion rotten exploitation and horror films. A reflection of today's tastes? And The Odd Couple one of the most popular comedies of all time goes now for hundreds of dollars? What is going on? Rights issues? But what about the original DVDs and the foreign blu ray issues? Sad and frustrating.

    While we do get a lot of schlock on Blu, like you said, the GOOD films many of us want are tied up in legalities, need major restoration or the studios just wont let them go. It's sad and frustrating for me too. Around the World in 80 Days; Ivanhoe… yes, I'd love both of those too. But the thing is… the more popular the film, the better chance the OCN was used and abused, and thus scratches and dirt, debris, etc. and possibly cut scenes make for a costly restoration/remastering.

    I feel for you, I know how you feel. But I guess we just have to take the bad with the good.

    And for those of you who like those "bad" films, I mean no disrespect Everyone likes and collects what they like… a little for everyone.

  78. roxy1927

    Obscure today but not in their time so many beautiful color musicals from the 40s and 50s the Alice Faye and Betty Grable musicals. Twilight Time did a great job with The Gangs all Here. Gorgeous color MGM musicals which inexplicably have never been released like Ziegfeld Follies, Yolanda and the Thief, Till the Crowds Roll By, Good News, Words and Music and Royal Wedding. These all deserve major restorations. But nobody knows them anymore or too few people?
    Yet we get major bombs like Finian's Rainbow and Dr Dolittle. I'm sure we'll get the abysmal Star! soon. Very strange.

    No Summertime? No Fall of the Roman Empire? No Around the World in 80 Days? No El Cid? No Ivanhoe? No Scaramouche? Blu ray has been around a long time yet we have a gazillion rotten exploitation and horror films. A reflection of today's tastes? And The Odd Couple one of the most popular comedies of all time goes now for hundreds of dollars? What is going on? Rights issues? But what about the original DVDs and the foreign blu ray issues? Sad and frustrating.

    Welcome to this forum.

    The point you are making has been made by others before you. As you work your way through old threads, you will find many explanations for the films you listed not being available on Blu-ray disc.

  79. This one is tricky since it was released in two versions: 1967's Reflections in a Golden Eye. John Huston had it released with a golden filter over the completed film in keeping with the title, but after a while Warner Bros. pulled it from theaters and re-released it without the gold filter. For a Blu-ray release both versions should be put out in one set, like what was done with the two cuts of The Big Sleep. But I don't know if the Warner Archive people have the brains to consider this, so that's why I'm mentioning it here!

  80. This one is tricky since it was released in two versions: 1967's Reflections in a Golden Eye. John Huston had it released with a golden filter over the completed film in keeping with the title, but after a while Warner Bros. pulled it from theaters and re-released it without the gold filter. For a Blu-ray release both versions should be put out in one set, like what was done with the two cuts of The Big Sleep. But I don't know if the Warner Archive people have the brains to consider this, so that's why I'm mentioning it here!

  81. I would love to see a DVD release of " A Midsummer Night's Dream" 1982 Shakespeare In The Park with William Hurt, Christine Baranski, and Kevin Conroy ( Voice of Batman on the animated series.) This was video taped and broadcast on Arts and Entertainment, when A&E did have entertainment. As it is video a blu ray wouldn't improve much.
    Here is a clip

  82. Charles Ellis

    The only Russ Meyer feature that I know of that has never had a home video release is the 1971 The Seven Minutes which was a 20th Century-Fox release made after Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, but didn't do that well at the boxoffice since it was a straightforward drama about an obscenity trial concerning a banned book. It was based on the Irving Wallace bestseller and was for the most part surprisingly faithful to the book. This should have been out on video years ago!

    It's not entirely true that The Seven Minutes was never made available on home video; Arrow included it as a bonus feature with their limited edition of Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. I think it may be impossible to get one now, thoug.

  83. I'd love to see Marilyn Monroe's final unfinished SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE with all the outtakes included in an HD format. I've seen all the stuff on YouTube. I'd love Fox to give us everything they have on this title because her work was so beautiful and hilarious. (KINO, are you listening?)

  84. Stephen_J_H

    It's not entirely true that The Seven Minutes was never made available on home video; Arrow included it as a bonus feature with their limited edition of Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. I think it may be impossible to get one now, thoug.

    I'm talking about an AMERICAN release!

  85. I am still waiting for some 70s Rock concert films to come out on DVD or Blu Ray. Maybe obscure, TCM did show one of these Let The Goodtimes Roll about a 50s 60s Rock and Roll revival concert with Chuck Berry, and Bo Didley among others, done in multi screen like Woodstock. Also The Medicine Ball Caravan. Scorsese worked on that one.

  86. Not so obscure, but definitely a cult hit, The Keep. For whatever reason (Music rights dispute with Tangerine Dream, director's reported disdain for the movie, etc), it will never see the Bluray light of day. Truly sad, as it is a flawed, but entertaining film.

  87. And while on the subject, will we ever see Eisenstein's 'Alexander Nevsky' and the two 'Ivan the Terrible' movies (parts 1 and 2) on Blu ray? It's so frustrating to know these have been restored for HD by Mosfilm in Russia but still await release.

  88. I want “The Perils of Pauline,” (sixties version), “What’s So Bad About Feeling Good?,” and Richard Wiliams version of A Christmas Carol.

    James

  89. Saw an article in the paper today saying that NY Jets rookie quarterback Sam Darnold looks a lot like Arch Hall Jr .
    It made me realize that what the world needs is a Blu-ray double feature of Hall's films Wild Guitar and Eegah.
    Arch hall Jr is still alive and could contribute a comentary track . I'd buy it!

  90. It wasn't obscure when I was a kid as it seemed to be on TV all the time, but Robert Logan's Shipwrecked! aka The Sea Gypsies. I still hold onto my old VHS copy of the film (not even a DVD release of this one exists). Quite like the Wilderness Family (which also needs a bluray release) it was great family fun. My oldest girl really loves the Wilderness Family films which at least have a subpar DVD release.

    Another couple of films I'd love to have even if just a DVD is the Dove (1974), and the Jerusalem File (1972).

  91. warnerbro

    THE CAT CREEPS (1930)
    THE BAT WHISPERS (1930, BOTH 70MM AND 1.33:1)
    THE EAGLE (1925) WITH CARL DAVIS SCORE
    THE ALAMO (1960)
    SOUTH PACIFIC (1958) WITH DELETED SCENES IN HD
    DR. X (1932) BOTH COLOR AND B&W
    THE MYSTERY OF THE WAX MUSEUM (1932) COLOR
    THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE (1967)
    THAT DARN CAT (1965)

    Every time Disney Movie Club finally announces a new catalog release (NATTY GANN, THREE CABALLEROS, etc.) I find a glimmer of hope for titles such as THAT DARN CAT (and DARBY O'GILL and DR. SYN and THREE LIVES OF THOMASINA, and….) Who the f**k knows anymore with this company?

  92. Dick

    Every time Disney Movie Club finally announces a new catalog release (NATTY GANN, THREE CABALLEROS, etc.) I find a glimmer of hope for titles such as THAT DARN CAT (and DARBY O'GILL and DR. SYN and THREE LIVES OF THOMASINA, and….) Who the f**k knows anymore with this company?

    It's a shame they didn't concentrate on the "classics " along time ago, back in the early days of Blu-ray. And the release schedule has been very sluggish especially of late . Still, the fact that they just released Parent Trap as a Disney Movie Club exclusive gives us a glimmer of hope .

  93. I would like to see The Hitcher with Rutger Hauer, it has never seen a blu ray release, scan it in 4k and release on UHD too, there must be some rights issue holding that one up.

    I would like to see Scaramouche with Stewart Granger, great flick and being Technicolor i have high hopes they digitally align the colors to,perfection should it ever see a blu ray release.

    It probably suffers quite a a bit from being cut down from the original running time but i hope Sony/Columbia are planning to release Mackenna’s Gold next year, i saw it on Talking Pictures here in the UK recently and it had a nice stereo track with good quality dynamic range for the era.

    I will bring up Khartoum, i would love to own a proper 4k scanned edition of this with the stereo tracks, i know its out in Germany but i do not consider that a proper release.

    I want more David Lean, release Ryan’s Daughter, it can and should look superb on blu ray but go the extra mile, release on UHD.

    I would like to see Roman Holiday on blu ray too.

    The 1938 film version of Pygmalion, superb acting from Wendy Hiller and Leslie Howard, much better flick than My Fair Lady, it deserves some work done to it and a release on blu ray.

    Star Trek: The Motion Picture, the directors cut, its anniversary is next year, its never been released, i am hopeful.

    Walt Disneys The Black Hole, despite some shortcomings i have always enjoyed this and felt the music score was superb.

    I would like to see the directors cut of Dust Devil make it to blu ray or maybe go one step further and issue it on UHD.

    Walt Disneys Dragonslayer, i would like this one in UHD.

    Well i figure some of the above could be considered rare or obscure as they have not been seen the light of day on blu ray.

  94. FoxyMulder

    I would like to see The Hitcher with Rutger Hauer, it has never seen a blu ray release, scan it in 4k and release on UHD too, there must be some rights issue holding that one up.

    I would like to see Scaramouche with Stewart Granger, great flick and being Technicolor i have high hopes they digitally align the colors to,perfection should it ever see a blu ray release.

    It probably suffers quite a a bit from being cut down from the original running time but i hope Sony/Columbia are planning to release Mackenna’s Gold next year, i saw it on Talking Pictures here in the UK recently and it had a nice stereo track with good quality dynamic range for the era.

    I will bring up Khartoum, i would love to own a proper 4k scanned edition of this with the stereo tracks, i know its out in Germany but i do not consider that a proper release.

    I want more David Lean, release Ryan’s Daughter, it can and should look superb on blu ray but go the extra mile, release on UHD.

    I would like to see Roman Holiday on blu ray too.

    The 1938 film version of Pygmalion, superb acting from Wendy Hiller and Leslie Howard, much better flick than My Fair Lady, it deserves some work done to it and a release on blu ray.

    Star Trek: The Motion Picture, the directors cut, its anniversary is next year, its never been released, i am hopeful.

    Walt Disneys The Black Hole, despite some shortcomings i have always enjoyed this and felt the music score was superb.

    I would like to see the directors cut of Dust Devil make it to blu ray or maybe go one step further and issue it on UHD.

    Walt Disneys Dragonslayer, i would like this one in UHD.

    Well i figure some of the above could be considered rare or obscure as they have not been seen the light of day on blu ray.

    I'd get just about everything on your list. In fact, I already got Khartoum when Twilight Time released it (now out of print).

  95. I would guess that 90% or so of the films listed in this thread so far are easily available in some format or other and are pretty well-known. Just because they're not in the format you want them to be in doesn't make them "obscure" or "rare." (Where's the "head-scratching" emoji?)

  96. Vic Pardo

    I would guess that 90% or so of the films listed in this thread so far are easily available in some format or other and are pretty well-known. Just because they're not in the format you want them to be in doesn't make them "obscure" or "rare." (Where's the "head-scratching" emoji?)

    "Hallelujah, the Hills" is not available in any format that i know of. Nor has it ever been.

  97. I'm still waiting for the 1946 Jeanne Crain film Margie. Why has Fox been dithering on this film? It's hardly a marginal film – Zanuck produced, Henry King directed, Technicolor, great cast of actors and actresses, etc. What's the hold-up? It's never had a proper home video release of any sort. Since Fox has never done anything with it, I was hoping that it would have been licensed by either Kino or Twilight Time. To be honest, it wouldn't be out of line for Criterion to vie for it. Yet, the film remains neglected. To be fair, maybe there are some story and/or music rights that are holding the film back (even though I'm not aware of any). Well, maybe the Mouse will do well by the film.

  98. Vic Pardo

    I would guess that 90% or so of the films listed in this thread so far are easily available in some format or other and are pretty well-known. Just because they're not in the format you want them to be in doesn't make them "obscure" or "rare." (Where's the "head-scratching" emoji?)

    Yeah but this is the blu ray/UHD thread thus obscure and rare relates directly to wanting the titles in HD.

  99. FoxyMulder

    I would like to see The Hitcher with Rutger Hauer, it has never seen a blu ray release, scan it in 4k and release on UHD too, there must be some rights issue holding that one up.

    I would like to see Scaramouche with Stewart Granger, great flick and being Technicolor i have high hopes they digitally align the colors to,perfection should it ever see a blu ray release.

    It probably suffers quite a a bit from being cut down from the original running time but i hope Sony/Columbia are planning to release Mackenna’s Gold next year, i saw it on Talking Pictures here in the UK recently and it had a nice stereo track with good quality dynamic range for the era.

    I will bring up Khartoum, i would love to own a proper 4k scanned edition of this with the stereo tracks, i know its out in Germany but i do not consider that a proper release.

    I want more David Lean, release Ryan’s Daughter, it can and should look superb on blu ray but go the extra mile, release on UHD.

    I would like to see Roman Holiday on blu ray too.

    The 1938 film version of Pygmalion, superb acting from Wendy Hiller and Leslie Howard, much better flick than My Fair Lady, it deserves some work done to it and a release on blu ray.

    Star Trek: The Motion Picture, the directors cut, its anniversary is next year, its never been released, i am hopeful.

    Walt Disneys The Black Hole, despite some shortcomings i have always enjoyed this and felt the music score was superb.

    I would like to see the directors cut of Dust Devil make it to blu ray or maybe go one step further and issue it on UHD.

    Walt Disneys Dragonslayer, i would like this one in UHD.

    Well i figure some of the above could be considered rare or obscure as they have not been seen the light of day on blu ray.

    Doesn't Criterion have Pygmalion? zI'd love to see them upgrade it. It's a great film.

  100. FoxyMulder

    I would like to see Scaramouche with Stewart Granger, great flick and being Technicolor i have high hopes they digitally align the colors to,perfection should it ever see a blu ray release. GOOD POSSIBILITY FROM WARNER ARCHIVES.

    II would like to see Roman Holiday on blu ray too. PARAMOUNT, UNFORTUNATELY. WHY DOESN'T THIS STUDIO FINALLY THROW IN THE TOWEL AND STOP WITHHOLDING THE IN-DEMAND CLASSICS? LICENSE THEM, FOR GOD'S SAKE! NO ONE AT ALL IS MAKING MONEY ON THEM AS LONG AS THEY SIT IN SOME VAULT SOMEWHERE.

    The 1938 film version of Pygmalion, superb acting from Wendy Hiller and Leslie Howard, much better flick than My Fair Lady, it deserves some work done to it and a release on blu ray. I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS ALSO. AND I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF HOWARD'S.

    Star Trek: The Motion Picture, the directors cut, its anniversary is next year, its never been released, i am hopeful. IT DOESN'T SOUND PROMISING. PARAMOUNT AGAIN, AND THE EFFECTS THAT WERE CREATED FOR THE DVD DIRECTOR'S CUT ARE APPARENTLY NOT UP TO BLU-RAY SNUFF. WILL THEY INVEST IN UPGRADING? (:rolling-smiley:).

    Walt Disneys The Black Hole, despite some shortcomings i have always enjoyed this and felt the music score was superb. A MAYBE FROM THE MOVIE CLUB.

    Walt Disneys Dragonslayer, i would like this one in UHD. DISNEY PROVIDED SOME OF THE EFFECTS WORK AND DISTRIBUTED OVERSEAS, BUT THE DOMESTIC RELEASE WAS FROM…OH, DAMN, PARAMOUNT AGAIN! THIS APPEARS TO BE ONE OF THE STUDIO'S MOST REQUESTED CATALOG TITLES, BUT DOES IT LOOK AS THOUGH THEY GIVE A SHIT?

  101. I’d love to see Warner Archive release the US print of the 1990 animated feature “The Nutcracker Prince” on DVD and Blu-ray, as long as WB still has that print in their vaults and that they’d solve the rights limbo with Amberwood Entertainment (successor to Lacewood Productions). (The film was released on DVD before by GoodTimes, but that has a Canadian film print.)

  102. Vic Pardo

    I would guess that 90% or so of the films listed in this thread so far are easily available in some format or other and are pretty well-known. Just because they're not in the format you want them to be in doesn't make them "obscure" or "rare." (Where's the "head-scratching" emoji?)

    Yep, couldn't agree more. A thread on "obscure" films has turned into just another "titles I want on blu ray" thread and loaded down with the usual suspects. 🙁

  103. Yup, agree with that. I've been looking at a lot of DVDs recently, Paramount & Warner titles, & most of 'em look really good (very happy with the MGM Marx Brothers films), after all, the film's the thing. Anyway, the two choices I posted are kosher, the POW drama, Danger Within (1958) & the James Coburn rodeo drama, The Honkers (1972), neither have had a home video release.

  104. I'd come up with a list for this thread, except that I keep being pleasantly sideswiped by an odd release here or there of an obscure film, one that I never thought would see the light of Blu-ray. I'd have hardly expected, for example, a release of THE HELLSTROM CHRONICLE, or THE CHANT OF JIMMIE BLACKSMITH, THE OLD DARK HOUSE, ONE MILLION B.C. or (from Germany) A HIGH WIND IN JAMAICA. I'd say that there is barely a title any of us could think of about which one could say with absolutely surety there will never be a Blu-ray release.

    A year ago, I finally gave up on the hope that Disney would ever release THE JOURNEY OF NATTY GANN on Blu. It has now happened, albeit through their exclusive movie club. A couple of years ago they released RETURN TO OZ. Both look wonderful, and both were PG-rated films under the Disney moniker. I now have hope that BLACK HOLE and SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES might also show up, along with missing G-rated catalog titles such as THAT DARN CAT, THREE LIVES OF THOMASINA, and scores of others.

    Kino is challenging our credit card balances by flooding us with releases, many of which we'd never have guessed would make the upgrade to Blu. They keep making deals with studios for a hundred titles here, a hundred there, and providing us with movies that would easily have fallen within the purview of the OP's topic here.

    Scream Factory and Severin and now Arrow are filling in still more gaps we'd have recently thought were impossible to fill.

    I love this era of Blu-ray catalog releases. It just doesn't seem to want to go away, in spite of (or perhaps because of) the naysayers.

  105. Masquerade with Cliff Robertson and Jack Hawkins.
    Run a Crooked Mile with Louis Jourdan and Mary Tyler Moore.
    The Man in the Santa Claus Suit with Fred Astaire.

    Last 2 are TV so maybe not relevant to this thread? Good films anyway and are certainly obscure.

    The exclusive Disney Club – been talked about before, but worth a mention again. What is the point of owning a title worldwide, only to make that title only available to certain countries. If Disney were to be considering releasing titles in Europe, OK it might make sense. But they haven't. I have some hard earned money in my pocket waiting and wanting to send to Disney for titles such as The Swiss Family Robinson on Blu-ray, but Disney doesn't want my money. I am sure there is a bigger picture (forgive the pun), but I can't see it.

  106. I'd certainly like to see the Cliff Robertson/Jack Hawkins Masquerade again. (I have the Rob Lowe/Meg Tilly Masquerade on DVD) I remember it as a pretty good film with sense of irony about it. There's one scene where the two leads are slugging it out and Jack Hawkins says "We're both much too old for this sort of thing!" I'm surprised it's gone missing.

  107. Thomas T

    Yep, couldn't agree more. A thread on "obscure" films has turned into just another "titles I want on blu ray" thread and loaded down with the usual suspects. 🙁

    Right, this thread as stated in the OP's first post was about MIA films that have never been released on DVD, Blu-ray or UHD.

  108. City in Fear, a TV movie with David Janssen, Robert Vaughn, Mickey Rourke and a cast of great character actors; and, of course, What's So Bad About Feeling Good? with George Peppard and Mary Tyler Moore (but also Dom DeLuise), directed by the great George Seaton (Miracle on 34th Street, Airport, 36 Hours, The Country Girl, Teacher's Pet, The Counterfeit Traitor, etc.)

  109. I’d love to have a copy of 2 Science Fiction TV films which have not been available since the VHS days. One is “The Electric Grandmother” with Maureen Stapleton. I used this movie in the classroom for years — kids liked it, but every adult either had to leave the room at the end (I used to stand on the hall) or was found sobbing in a fetal position on the floor when the lights were turned on!

    The second film I never could get a copy of (gr!). It was I think called “The People”. It was about a teacher who gets a job teaching in a Hutterite like community, and eventually discovers the people are peaceful alien refugees who escaped the destruction of their planet and are in hiding. Oh, ya, the children can fly!

  110. TJPC

    I’d love to have a copy of 2 Science Fiction TV films which have not been available since the VHS days. One is “The Electric Grandmother” with Maureen Stapleton. I used this movie in the classroom for years — kids liked it, but every adult either had to leave the room at the end (I used to stand on the hall) or was found sobbing in a fetal position on the floor when the lights were turned on!

    The second film I never could get a copy of (gr!). It was I think called “The People”. It was about a teacher who gets a job teaching in a Hutterite like community, and eventually discovers the people are peaceful alien refugees who escaped the destruction of their planet and are in hiding. Oh, ya, the children can fly!

    Not blu-ray but The People is on youtube

  111. TJPC

    I’d love to have a copy of 2 Science Fiction TV films which have not been available since the VHS days. One is “The Electric Grandmother” with Maureen Stapleton. I used this movie in the classroom for years — kids liked it, but every adult either had to leave the room at the end (I used to stand on the hall) or was found sobbing in a fetal position on the floor when the lights were turned on!

    The second film I never could get a copy of (gr!). It was I think called “The People”. It was about a teacher who gets a job teaching in a Hutterite like community, and eventually discovers the people are peaceful alien refugees who escaped the destruction of their planet and are in hiding. Oh, ya, the children can fly!

    The Electric Grandmother was a staple on HBO when I was a kid. It was one of the first exposures I had to the work of Ray Bradbury. Such a sweet and unique film. The story has been adapted a couple of times, but this one was really well done.

  112. Nick Eden

    Masquerade with Cliff Robertson and Jack Hawkins.
    Run a Crooked Mile with Louis Jourdan and Mary Tyler Moore.
    The Man in the Santa Claus Suit with Fred Astaire.

    Last 2 are TV so maybe not relevant to this thread? Good films anyway and are certainly obscure.

    The exclusive Disney Club – been talked about before, but worth a mention again. What is the point of owning a title worldwide, only to make that title only available to certain countries. If Disney were to be considering releasing titles in Europe, OK it might make sense. But they haven't. I have some hard earned money in my pocket waiting and wanting to send to Disney for titles such as The Swiss Family Robinson on Blu-ray, but Disney doesn't want my money. I am sure there is a bigger picture (forgive the pun), but I can't see it.

    Perfectly acceptable! They are rare/obscure and movies, so I approve!

  113. Nick Eden

    Masquerade with Cliff Robertson and Jack Hawkins.
    Run a Crooked Mile with Louis Jourdan and Mary Tyler Moore.
    The Man in the Santa Claus Suit with Fred Astaire.

    Last 2 are TV so maybe not relevant to this thread? Good films anyway and are certainly obscure.

    The exclusive Disney Club – been talked about before, but worth a mention again. What is the point of owning a title worldwide, only to make that title only available to certain countries. If Disney were to be considering releasing titles in Europe, OK it might make sense. But they haven't. I have some hard earned money in my pocket waiting and wanting to send to Disney for titles such as The Swiss Family Robinson on Blu-ray, but Disney doesn't want my money. I am sure there is a bigger picture (forgive the pun), but I can't see it.

    Perfectly acceptable! They are rare/obscure and movies, so I approve!

  114. TJPC

    Thank you, but the only way to watch YouTube here is on a computer or phone. I’d like to get the big screen experience with a disc.

    For those Canucks who have access to it, the 4k Bell Fibe package includes You Tube in the channel listings.

    CHEERS! 🙂

  115. With Autism being such a big topic right now, I'd really like to see the TV movie A Circle of Children and it's sequel Lovey: A Circle of Children Part 2 both starring Jane Alexander. I don't think either of those were ever released at all. There were a lot of great TV movies back in the 70s that are not available.

  116. Has That Kind Of Woman* ever been released on disc? Was it ever available on VHS? It should hold some interest for several film enthusiasts because it stars Sophia Loren, George Sanders and Tab Hunter and was directed by Sidney Lumet.

    * Not to be confused with His Kind Of Woman starring Robert Mitchum and Jane Russell.

  117. Suzanne.S

    With Autism being such a big topic right now, I'd really like to see the TV movie A Circle of Children and it's sequel Lovey: A Circle of Children Part 2 both starring Jane Alexander. I don't think either of those were ever released at all. There were a lot of great TV movies back in the 70s that are not available.

    I second that. Both very fine films and so beautifully performed, proving for the umpteenth time that Jane Alexander is a national treasure. The first was shown in 1977 on the CBS network, and was produced by 20th Century-Fox. The sequel came a year later and was also shown on CBS, but this time was produced by Time-Life. I've no idea who might release these to DVD and/or Blu, but I sure wish someone would.

  118. I'm astonished we still haven't seen a BD release of Bryan Forbes's original The Stepford Wives. It's one of my favourite films, and it's been languishing in SD purgatory for decades…

    This seems like a prime candidate for Arrow or Shout!

    I'd also love to see Bogdanovich's Targets on BD. I could have sworn there were Criterion rumours a few years ago, but all has gone quiet…

  119. Will*B

    I'm astonished we still haven't seen a BD release of Bryan Forbes's original The Stepford Wives. It's one of my favourite films, and it's been languishing in SD purgatory for decades…

    This seems like a prime candidate for Arrow or Shout!

    I'd also love to see Bogdanovich's Targets on BD. I could have sworn there were Criterion rumours a few years ago, but all has gone quiet…

    TARGETS is out on DVD. Not
    Rare or obscure st all.

  120. From Disney I would like to see the release of two T.V. movies in particular: THE BLUE YONDER with Huckleberry Fox and Peter Coyote, and THE GIRL WHO SPELLED FREEDOM, which is an awesome story of the immigration of a large Cambodian family escaping the Khmer Rouge, taken in by a suburban American couple, Wayne Rogers and Mary Kay Place, who have children of their own. The communications challenges are many, and the sincere attempts to assimilate the refugees into an modern American household the local society are fraught with obstacles. But the oldest child brought into their home has a knack for spelling English words and may be the key to bridging the emotional gap. Beautifully done. Both films would make for perfect Movie Club exclusives.

    While on the topic of T.V. movies never released to video, how about Steven Spielberg's SAVAGE (1973) and SOMETHING EVIL (1972). Other fine no-show t.v. movies are SOMETHING ABOUT AMELIA, HEARTSOUNDS, GOD BLESS THE CHILD, DAVID COPPERFIELD (1970), CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER (1970), THE PEOPLE (1972), THAT CERTAIN SUMMER (1972), GO ASK ALICE (1973), A COLD NIGHT'S DEATH (1973), THE BORROWERS (1973), THE GLASS MENAGERIE (1973), THE EXECUTION OF PRIVATE SLOVIK (1974), THURSDAY'S GAME (1974), QBVII (1974), THE BLUE KNIGHT (1975), FEAR ON TRIAL (1975), THE U.F.O. INCIDENT (1975), FOSTER AND LAURIE (1975), TAIL GUNNER JOE (1977), THE DEADLIEST SEASON (1977), MARY JANE HARPER CRIED LAST NIGHT (1977), THE DARK SECRET OF HARVEST HOME (1978), A WOMAN CALLED MOSES (1978), VAMPIRE (1979), A PIANO FOR MRS. CIMINO (1982), THE PEOPLE VS. JEAN HARRIS (1981), DAVID (1988). These were all broadcast by the big three networks in the days before HBO and Showtime began turning out their own, commercial-free movies.

    Speaking of the premium channels, a bunch of their excellent TV movies are also missing on DVD and/or Blu-ray: BY DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT, THE BURNING SEASON, COUNTDOWN TO LOOKING GLASS, GULAG, MURROW, CITIZEN COHN, BARBARIANS AT THE GATE, AND THE BAND PLAYED ON, CITIZEN X, INDICTMENT: THE McMARTIN TRIAL, THE JACK BULL (available in Europe from time to time on Blu), BASTARD OUT OF CAROLINA, NIGHTBREAKER, and many others.

    None of these is likely to appear on DVD or Blu, but I never thought I'd see PLAYING FOR TIME or PROMISE or FRIENDLY FIRE or DEATH OF A SALESMAN or THE GLASS HOUSE or DRACULA (1974) or THE LEGEND OF LIZZIE BORDEN or THE BURNING BED or DARK NIGHT OF THE SCARECROW to come out, either.

    Upgrades from DVD to Blu would be most welcome for GARGOYLES, DON'T BE AFRAID OF THE DARK, THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF MISS JANE PITTMAN, HELTER SKELTER, SYBIL, THE THORN BIRDS, the two Ewok movies, WINDS OF WAR and WAR AND REMEMBRANCE, GUYANA TRAGEDY: THE JIM JONES STORY, SPECIAL BULLETIN, BRIAN'S SONG, THE CELLULOID CLOSET, ESCAPE FROM SOBIBOR, FOUR LITTLE GIRLS, THE GREEN MAN (BBC), LENA: MY 100 CHILDREN, THE NIGHT THAT PANICKED AMERICA, SOMETHING THE LORD MADE, SOMETIME IN APRIL, TREASURE ISLAND (1990), etc.

    So there is the list I said I wasn't going to post in this thread. 🙂

  121. Matt Hough

    I thought A Cold Night's Death was issued on DVD-R by Warner Archive. Is that the one with Cloris Leachman whose husband goes missing at a truck stop? If it is, I am sure I have it.

    That is DYING ROOM ONLY

  122. TJPC

    I would love to get a copy of “Just Imagine” (1930), a musical set in the far flung future of 1980!

    About fifteen years ago, my late grandmother was talking about how much she loved this film when it came out, with all its futuristic set-pieces and such. She had such marvelous memories of it, and hadn't seen it since it was in theaters. As I had the film on tape (from an off-air recording back around 1990), I showed it to her, and 'disappointed' doesn't even begin to describe her reaction. She was positively aghast. I guess I should have refrained from showing it to her, and shattering her pleasant memories.

    I'm really not too keen on the film myself, other than the always-delightful Marjorie White. I'd buy the film on blu, just due to her. Isn't the surviving copy of the film actually a 'work print' as opposed to the official release? I was sometimes under the impression this was the case with a few of those 1929-35 Fox films.

  123. Here are some (though not all) I'd like that, to my knowledge, have never been released on DVD or Blu:

    Angel in My Pocket (1969) – Andy Griffith/Lee Meriwether/Jerry Van Dyke (The DVDs that have come up when searching this title don't look like legit releases.)
    Checkered Flag or Crash (1977) – Joe Don Baker/Susan Sarandon/Larry Hagman (All I've found is a Netherlands VHS from Warner Home Video.)
    Did You Hear the One About the Traveling Saleslady? (1968) – Phyllis Diller/Bob Denver/Joe Flynn
    The Goldbergs (1950) – Gertrude Berg and the rest of her TV series cast starred in this film.
    Gunn (1967) – Craig Stevens reprised his role as Peter Gunn in this film made several years after the TV series.
    HealtH (1980) – Carol Burnett/James Garner/Lauren Bacall (a Robert Altman film)
    Ladybug Ladybug (1963) – William Daniels/Nancy Marchand

    Limbo (1972) – Kate Jackson/Kathleen Nolan/Stuart Margolin
    The Man (1972) – James Earl Jones/Martin Balsam/Burgess Meredith (with a Rod Serling script)
    Some Kind of a Nut (1969) – Dick Van Dyke/Angie Dickinson (The DVDs that have come up when searching this title don't look like legit releases.)

    And since TV movies are also being included in the discussion, there are plenty I would like. Here are just 5 of them:

    The Death of Ocean View Park (1979) – Mike Connors/Martin Landau
    Getting Away From It All (1972) – Larry Hagman/Barbara Feldon/Jim Backus
    A Howling in the Woods (1971) – Barbara Feldon/Larry Hagman (This drama aired a year after their sitcom I Dream Of Jeannie ended.)
    Let's Switch (1975) – Barbara Eden/Barbara Feldon
    The Missing Are Deadly (1975) – Leonard Nimoy/Ed Nelson

  124. Bert Greene

    About fifteen years ago, my late grandmother was talking about how much she loved this film when it came out, with all its futuristic set-pieces and such. She had such marvelous memories of it, and hadn't seen it since it was in theaters. As I had the film on tape (from an off-air recording back around 1990), I showed it to her, and 'disappointed' doesn't even begin to describe her reaction. She was positively aghast. I guess I should have refrained from showing it to her, and shattering her pleasant memories.

    I'm really not too keen on the film myself, other than the always-delightful Marjorie White. I'd buy the film on blu, just due to her. Isn't the surviving copy of the film actually a 'work print' as opposed to the official release? I was sometimes under the impression this was the case with a few of those 1929-35 Fox films.

    The last time it was shown locally, I taped it with my Beta (!) recorder. If it ever is “disked” I would store it with other kitschy, campy musicals from the 1930s staring Al Brendel. :dance:

  125. Bert Greene

    About fifteen years ago, my late grandmother was talking about how much she loved this film when it came out, with all its futuristic set-pieces and such. She had such marvelous memories of it, and hadn't seen it since it was in theaters. As I had the film on tape (from an off-air recording back around 1990), I showed it to her, and 'disappointed' doesn't even begin to describe her reaction. She was positively aghast. I guess I should have refrained from showing it to her, and shattering her pleasant memories.

    I'm really not too keen on the film myself, other than the always-delightful Marjorie White. I'd buy the film on blu, just due to her. Isn't the surviving copy of the film actually a 'work print' as opposed to the official release? I was sometimes under the impression this was the case with a few of those 1929-35 Fox films.

    The last time it was shown locally, I taped it with my Beta (!) recorder. If it ever is “disked” I would store it with other kitschy, campy musicals from the 1930s staring Al Brendel. :dance:

  126. I don't know if they're particularly rare or obscure, but three films I'd love to see on Blu-Ray that I doubt will be happening are One Way Passage (1932), The Smiling Ghost (1941), and One Foot in Heaven (1941).

    Perhaps more suitable for this topic, how about the Maureen O'Hara tv movie version of Mrs. Miniver? That's one kinescope I'd buy a HD transfer of, if it's ever uncovered. 🙂

    I'm sure it wouldn't match or surpass the wartime movie, since I fell in love with it first and we're of course talking about a television movie. But it's easy to see Maureen O'Hara being perfect for the role as Mrs. Miniver.

  127. Only two for me: the complete version of Cukor's '54 version of A Star is Born – with all the outtakes and deleted scenes taken out after the first prevue.

    …and, Six Weeks – costarring Dudley and Mary Tyler-Moore – shameless tear-jerker I remember fondly.

  128. Nick*Z

    Only two for me: the complete version of Cukor's '54 version of A Star is Born – with all the outtakes and deleted scenes taken out after the first prevue.

    …and, Six Weeks – costarring Dudley and Mary Tyler-Moore – shameless tear-jerker I remember fondly.

    I read the original novel by Fred Mustard Stewart a few years before the film came out. Dudley Moore was hopelessly miscast- the role called for James Garner, Paul Newman, or Robert Redford. No wonder the film flopped!!!

    In recent years the Time Warner has used its lawyers to untangle legal issues that prevented films like The Constant Nymph and Night Flight from being shown on TCM or being put out on home video. So why no action yet on Beyond the Forest or the most notorious example of a film being 'locked up' over a rights issue- Letty Lynton? That 1932 Joan Crawford film is very much in the Turner vaults, and bootleg versions have been put out on DVD

    In the meantime- a clip:

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  129. Robin9

    I'd be very interested in any decent disc of the Kim Novak version of Of Human Bondage. I've never heard why that has disappeared.

    It's not on blu ray but there's a perfectly decent MOD available through the Warners Archive.

  130. Thomas T

    It's not on blu ray but there's a perfectly decent MOD available through the Warners Archive.

    Well, I'm astonished. I didn't know that. Many thanks. I'm placing my order immediately!

  131. Charles Ellis

    I read the original novel by Fred Mustard Stewart a few years before the film came out. Dudley Moore was hopelessly miscast- the role called for James Garner, Paul Newman, or Robert Redford. No wonder the film flopped!!!

    In recent years the Time Warner has used its lawyers to untangle legal issues that prevented films like The Constant Nymph and Night Flight from being shown on TCM or being put out on home video. So why no action yet on Beyond the Forest or the most notorious example of a film being 'locked up' over a rights issue- Letty Lynton? That 1932 Joan Crawford film is very much in the Turner vaults, and bootleg versions have been put out on DVD

    In the meantime- a clip:

    .

    I'd all but forgotten about Letty Lynton. Beyond the Forest – at this point – is beyond comprehension. What rights issues are delaying movies that are more than 50 years old?

  132. Since people are bringing up TV movies, there's only one I'd love to get my hands on. Smash Up On Interstate 5 (1976). Terrific cast: Tommy Lee Jones, Vera Miles, Robert Conrad, Sue Lyon, Terry Moore, Buddy Ebsen, Harriet Nelson, Donna Mills. The film begins with a horrific 39 car crash on an interstate highway then the film goes into flashback mode so we see the events leading up to the crash with the backstories of its characters 24 hours before the crash.

  133. It has to do mostly with the source material for the film (a novel or play) and who owns the right to it. Sometimes a film company will have a limited period of access to that source material before the rights (including remake rights) revert to the owners of the original material. That's why Night Flight wasn't shown for decades- the estate of author Antoine de Saint-Exupery held the rights under an agreement with MGM. The film was made in 1933, but all rights were to expire within a decade. Likewise, CBS owned My Fair Lady (it was an investor in the original show!), and Warner Bros. won the film rights with the proviso that ownership of the film would revert to CBS after a decade. So that's why despite being a Warner film, it's on Paramount DVD/Blu-ray as CBS is part of the Paramount/CBS/Viacom group. Letty Lynton was the subject of a notorious plagiarism suit from the writers of a play called "Dishonored Lady". Both the play and the MGM film were loosely based on the legendary Madeleine Smith case of the 1850s (a woman went on trial for killing her lover by arsenic in Scotland and THAT case was filmed by David Lean as Madeleine). The playwrights felt that Letty Lynton stole a bit from their play, and they won despite MGM using all their powerful attorneys. The film has not been publicly been shown since, though Dishonored Lady was filmed by United Artists in 1947 starring Hedy Lamarr. Beyond the Forest used to be shown regularly on TV and even came out on VHS, but again, there's a dispute regarding the owner(s) of the original novel by Stuart Engstrand that has so far prevented its coming out on DVD/Blu-ray or being on TCM! Another longshot is the 1959 Porgy and Bess: it's well known that Ira Gershwin hated that film version and today the elements for restoration are in vaults, but it's a bone of contention between the Samuel Goldwyn company and the estates of librettist DuBose Heyward and the Gershwin brothers (after George died, Ira maintained his brother's estate).

  134. StarDestroyer52

    I don't believe the 1977 TV movie, "Raid on Entebbe" has ever seen a home video release. That's one I love to see be released

    My Hebrew school teacher recommended that to me when I was about 11 or 12, and IIRC it was on video from Thorn-EMI/HBO in the 1980s. Luckily, I had an independently owned video store with a copy (Blockbuster was the court of last resort).

  135. LeoA

    Perhaps more suitable for this topic, how about the Maureen O'Hara tv movie version of Mrs. Miniver? That's one kinescope I'd buy a HD transfer of, if it's ever uncovered. 🙂

    I'm sure it wouldn't match or surpass the wartime movie, since I fell in love with it first and we're of course talking about a television movie. But it's easy to see Maureen O'Hara being perfect for the role as Mrs. Miniver.

    Why would you want a high-def transfer of a Kinescope? It's a video copy of something filmed in 16mm off a TV monitor. High-def would only amplify the flaws of the low-resolution source. There's virtually no way of improving the resolution of a kinescope, is there? If I'm wrong, someone please educate me. Thanks.

  136. StarDestroyer52

    I don't believe the 1977 TV movie, "Raid on Entebbe" has ever seen a home video release. That's one I love to see be released

    There's a DVD of it, but it looks like it was taken from an EP VHS tape.

  137. Vic Pardo

    Why would you want a high-def transfer of a Kinescope? It's a video copy of something filmed in 16mm off a TV monitor. High-def would only amplify the flaws of the low-resolution source. There's virtually no way of improving the resolution of a kinescope, is there? If I'm wrong, someone please educate me. Thanks.

    Yep! I have the blu ray of the 1957 Annie Get Your Gun with Mary Martin done for TV and it's a kinescope. There's no improvement over the DVD and it looks terrible. I mean I'm still happy to have it for archival reasons and having Martin's performance but I could just as well gotten the DVD with the same results.

  138. LeoA

    I don't know if they're particularly rare or obscure, but three films I'd love to see on Blu-Ray that I doubt will be happening are One Way Passage (1932), The Smiling Ghost (1941), and One Foot in Heaven (1941).

    Perhaps more suitable for this topic, how about the Maureen O'Hara tv movie version of Mrs. Miniver? That's one kinescope I'd buy a HD transfer of, if it's ever uncovered. 🙂

    I'm sure it wouldn't match or surpass the wartime movie, since I fell in love with it first and we're of course talking about a television movie. But it's easy to see Maureen O'Hara being perfect for the role as Mrs. Miniver.

    I'd say all three are rare! 🙂

  139. Vic Pardo

    Why would you want a high-def transfer of a Kinescope? It's a video copy of something filmed in 16mm off a TV monitor. High-def would only amplify the flaws of the low-resolution source. There's virtually no way of improving the resolution of a kinescope, is there? If I'm wrong, someone please educate me. Thanks.

    There was a process called LiveFeed that removed kinescope effects to make it look like videotape again. There's also a separate process that was used to convert Fraggle Rock from standard-definition videotape to HD. If only someone would combine the two, that could give some old shows a new lease on life. They'll never look like I Love Lucy, but they have the potential to look better than they do.

  140. Vic Pardo

    Why would you want a high-def transfer of a Kinescope? It's a video copy of something filmed in 16mm off a TV monitor. High-def would only amplify the flaws of the low-resolution source. There's virtually no way of improving the resolution of a kinescope, is there? If I'm wrong, someone please educate me. Thanks.

    Of course, you're entirely correct. But it's the rarest film I'd happily buy on home video in any form. So rare in fact that it seems as if no copy is extant.

    Wanting it on Blu-Ray was just because I want it on home video and we're in the Blu-Ray sub-forum, not because I think the format would do more justice to it than regular DVD. My fault for not making that clear instead of looking naive with a post that gives the impression I think Blu-Ray would provide a significant boost to a Kinescope release.

    In fact I'm sure it would be a slight waste of resources to release it on Blu-Ray instead of DVD if this ever surfaces and is made available, Negligible benefits for something that at best is going to have lackluster picture/audio quality, Blu-Ray media is slightly more expensive to produce than DVD, and there are still some classic movie fans and classic tv fans in 2018 with home video collections that haven't made the leap to Blu-Ray yet.

  141. Though I've only seen the trailer, I really need for someone to finally release on disc this wonderful late-70s oddity from the creators of the TV series FlipperMr. No Legs, with Richard Jaeckel, John Agar and Luke Halpin. Twilight Time and Criterion should be fighting over this. They wouldn't, but they should. But Kino would be perfectly acceptable, too. Maybe Code Red.

  142. Dave Lawrence

    Though I've only seen the trailer, I really need for someone to finally release on disc this wonderful late-70s oddity from the creators of the TV series FlipperMr. No Legs, with Richard Jaeckel, John Agar and Luke Halpin. Twilight Time and Criterion should be fighting over this. They wouldn't, but they should. But Kino would be perfectly acceptable, too. Maybe Code Red.

    Apparently, that one's in the works from Massacre Video.

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