Logan’s Run (1977-1978 series) coming to Blu-ray in October

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They may have posted the news prematurely because I haven’t seen it announced anyplace else, but MonstersInMotion.com says Logan’s Run is coming to Blu-ray via Warner Archives on October 29, 2019 for only $29.99.

https://www.monstersinmotion.com/cart/bluray-item-list-l-c-1_456_492/logans-run-1977-the-complete-tv-series-bluray-p-27223.html

WA recently released 70’s cult programs Man From Atlantis (pilot movie only…so far) on Blu-ray, and now Logan’s Run, so I’d say the chances of Wonder Woman (both the Cathy Lee Crosby movie and Lynda Carter series) coming to Blu-ray have greatly increased — especially since the series has already been remastered in HD (but let’s just hope they release the original 1.33:1 version and not the cropped 16:9 version that is available for streaming).

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  1. In the weekly TV Shows On DVD Facebook post, they list this title as a MOD DVD reissue of the 2012 set. They have a pointer to the DeepDiscount listing (also DVD MOD).

    I don't know which is accurate, but no other sites are mentioning Blu-Ray, and WAC rarely has 'leaks' (they just announced their October Blu slate)

  2. MattHR

    They may have posted the news prematurely because I haven't seen it announced anyplace else, but MonstersInMotion.com says Logan's Run is coming to Blu-ray via Warner Archives on October 29, 2019 for only $29.99.

    https://www.monstersinmotion.com/ca…77-the-complete-tv-series-bluray-p-27223.html

    WA recently released 70's cult programs Man From Atlantis (pilot movie only…so far) on Blu-ray, and now Logan's Run, so I'd say the chances of Wonder Woman (both the Cathy Lee Crosby movie and Lynda Carter series) coming to Blu-ray have greatly increased — especially since the series has already been remastered in HD (but let's just hope they release the original 1.33:1 version and not the cropped 16:9 version that is available for streaming).

    I would love to have Logan's Run on blu ray, sadly it is probably a mistake on their part.

    DC Universe has Wonder Woman in HD. I'm into the 3rd season, so far all the episodes have been in the correct aspect ratio except for the 2nd season opener The Return of Wonder Woman.

  3. Scott511

    I would love to have Logan's Run on blu ray, sadly it is probably a mistake on their part.

    DC Universe has Wonder Woman in HD. I'm into the 3rd season, so far all the episodes have been in the correct aspect ratio except for the 2nd season opener The Return of Wonder Woman.

    If they go through the BD way, they are going to restore it because the previous DVD edition was not.

  4. Scott511

    I would love to have Logan's Run on blu ray, sadly it is probably a mistake on their part.

    How would such a mistake happen? Clearly MiM believes that Warner Archives is offering a Blu-ray of the Logan's Run series; they must have seen this somewhere, no?

  5. I wouldn’t get excited either way. Have you seen this series? It is one of the most laughably cheesy programs ever made. I am sure everyone involved leaves it off their resume. It makes “Lost In Space” look like “Game of Thrones”!

  6. TJPC

    I wouldn’t get excited either way. Have you seen this series? It is one of the most laughably cheesy programs ever made. I am sure everyone involved leaves it off their resume. It makes “Lost In Space” look like “Game of Thrones”!

    Going by interviews, Gregory Harrison was proud of it. Whatever that's worth.

    I – LOVE – this series. I was a kid when it came out and we used to play "Logan's Run" in the playground. I have it on the bare bones DVDs, had it from iTunes and before then VHS tapes off TNT broadcasts. There were a few very strong episodes and some Star Trek writers were attached to it: D.C. Fontana, David Gerrold and Harlan Ellison for example. Fontana pretty much reworked Charlie X, but Gerrold did a really fine time travel story. A lot of the plots were retreads. That dusty old standby The Most Dangerous Game is trotted out – but to good effect.

    What do you expect from a show produced by the man who ran Dallas a year later?

    There were a ton of limitations. The show looked really cheap: I think they spent most of the budget on the little ground cars (even the main vehicle looked like cardboard). It's so weird that 1960's TV sci fi looked a lot more expensive than shows made 10 years later. They were trapped in the "Fugitive/Planet of the Apes" mixed format, with constant pursuit and meeting little pockets of civilization along the way. They also kept going back to the damned city, so they never really went very far.

    Strengths: the music was mostly excellent (the FSM CD is a treasure), Donald Moffatt is fabulous as the pre-Data android Rem and Heather Menzies is a complete and total knockout. I preferred her over Jenny Agutter as a kid. The idea that Francis would want to sit on a counsel with a bunch of old dudes seems like poor motivation to hunt Logan, but the plan was for him to be swayed to Logan's side if the show had continued.

    Is it cheesy? Good lord, yes! Is it fun? For me, absolutely. It's far from the cheesiest SF show ever made. It's an interesting look at what passed for network SF in the 70's just before Star Wars changed everything forever.

    If it would actually happen, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

  7. ScottRE

    Going by interviews, Gregory Harrison was proud of it. Whatever that's worth.

    I – LOVE – this series. I was a kid when it came out and we used to play "Logan's Run" in the playground. I have it on the bare bones DVDs, had it from iTunes and before then VHS tapes off TNT broadcasts. There were a few very strong episodes and some Star Trek writers were attached to it: D.C. Fontana, David Gerrold and Harlan Ellison for example. Fontana pretty much reworked Charlie X, but Gerrold did a really fine time travel story. A lot of the plots were retreads. That dusty old standby The Most Dangerous Game is trotted out – but to good effect.

    What do you expect from a show produced by the man who ran Dallas a year later?

    There were a ton of limitations. The show looked really cheap: I think they spent most of the budget on the little ground cars (even the main vehicle looked like cardboard). It's so weird that 1960's TV sci fi looked a lot more expensive than shows made 10 years later. They were trapped in the "Fugitive/Planet of the Apes" mixed format, with constant pursuit and meeting little pockets of civilization along the way. They also kept going back to the damned city, so they never really went very far.

    Strengths: the music was mostly excellent (the FSM CD is a treasure), Donald Moffatt is fabulous as the pre-Data android Rem and Heather Menzies is a complete and total knockout. I preferred her over Jenny Agutter as a kid. The idea that Francis would want to sit on a counsel with a bunch of old dudes seems like poor motivation to hunt Logan, but the plan was for him to be swayed to Logan's side if the show had continued.

    Is it cheesy? Good lord, yes! Is it fun? For me, absolutely. It's far from the cheesiest SF show ever made. It's an interesting look at what passed for network SF in the 70's just before Star Wars changed everything forever.

    If it would actually happen, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

    I agree with you on the whole. I own the FSM soundtrack too.
    The good episodes were:
    "Man Out of Time"
    "Half Life"
    "Futurepast"
    "The Collectors"
    "Crypt"

  8. TJPC

    I wouldn’t get excited either way. Have you seen this series? It is one of the most laughably cheesy programs ever made. I am sure everyone involved leaves it off their resume. It makes “Lost In Space” look like “Game of Thrones”!

    I watched the entire series, and some episodes are much better than others. It isn't nearly as good as Planet of the Apes series from 1974 which it plays out like!

    As to your comment about "laughably cheesy", whatever. Seems like you are going out of your way to pick a fight on a dedicated thread about this series.

  9. Try not to be so sensitive please. I was expressing my opinion. I watched just about every Sci/Fi show produced for TV in the ‘60s and ‘70s and though some may like them, and I did at the time, I now find them all “laughably cheesy”. Among these are:

    The Star Lost
    Space 1999
    Battlestar Galactica (The Original)
    Logan’s Run
    Planet of The Apes
    Lost in Space
    V
    The Martian Chronicles
    Alien Nation.

    Except for the LIS, they were all failures after a season or 2.

  10. TJPC

    Try not to be so sensitive please. I was expressing my opinion. I watched just about every Sci/Fi show produced for TV in the ‘60s and ‘70s and though some may like them, and I did at the time, I now find them all “laughably cheesy”. Among these are:

    The Star Lost
    Space 1999
    Battlestar Galactica (The Original)
    Logan’s Run
    Planet of The Apes
    Lost in Space
    V
    The Martian Chronicles
    Alien Nation.

    Except for the LIS, they were all failures after a season or 2.

    The Star Lost – totally cheesy even as it aired…
    Space 1999 – second year is not setting as well with me in my current rewatch as I expected. The first year is still solid.
    Battlestar Galactica (The Original) – the single parters are pretty cringeworthy (other than one or two) but most of the 2 hour episodes are still powerful.
    Logan’s Run – already talked about it
    Planet of The Apes – really, I found it more bland than cheesy. It packed none of the power of any of the films. Good pilot episode though.
    Lost in Space – when it was great, it was insanely good. But even the first year has it's share of cheddar (Space Croppers anyone?).
    V – love this series, but time has not been kind, especially the last half of the run.
    The Martian Chronicles – I only liked the Rock Hudson/Nicholas Hammond episode, but even that looked cheap at the time.
    Alien Nation – wow, this was unexpected. This was a great series.

    You left off Buck Rogers, Otherworld and Space Rangers. And Babylon 5 was swimming in cheese from its pilot episode. But man, was it gripping in the 2nd through 4th seasons.

    I guess to difference is, I love cheese.

  11. Sci-fi and fantasy TV will almost always fail visually to what the writer intended. Time and money are just too limited to pull it off on a weekly basis. I still enjoy them for what they attempt to do. It's those high concept ideas that keep me interested in them. We all have different expectations and standards when it comes to our viewing habits. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

    Logan's Run was on at a time when there weren't any successful fantasy shows on. Similar to The Planet Of The Apes, the network was spending too much money on it for anything other than a top ten hit. Sci-fi movies drew big numbers as movies of the week. The weekly TV series never did. I'm happy we have Logan on DVD. Like Shazam!, a blu-ray would be a welcomed miracle.

  12. Blimpoy06

    Sci-fi and fantasy TV will almost always fail visually to what the writer intended. Time and money are just too limited to pull it off on a weekly basis. I still enjoy them for what they attempt to do. It's those high concept ideas that keep me interested in them. We all have different expectations and standards when it comes to our viewing habits. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

    Logan's Run
    was on at a time when there weren't any successful fantasy shows on. Similar to The Planet Of The Apes, the network was spending too much money on it for anything other than a top ten hit. Sci-fi movies drew big numbers as movies of the week. The weekly TV series never did. I'm happy we have Logan on DVD. Like Shazam!, a blu-ray would be a welcomed miracle.

    Totally agree. Most were cheesy then, and even more so now. But it never bothered me then (as a kid), and I certainly appreciate being able to collect them today as an adult (well, as close to an adult as I'm willing to become). Anytime something like this is offered on physical media — especially on Blu-ray — I'll support the cause and show my appreciation by purchasing it. Who could ever have imagined a show like Shazam! getting fully restored and released on Blu-ray!?!

  13. Bryan^H

    I watched the entire series, and some episodes are much better than others. It isn't nearly as good as Planet of the Apes series from 1974 which it plays out like!

    As to your comment about "laughably cheesy", whatever. Seems like you are going out of your way to pick a fight on a dedicated thread about this series.

    Agreed on all counts (Planet of the Apes & the picking a fight deal).

    Gary “ :excl: “O.

  14. Now I remember “The Fantastic Journey” from 1977. Dunno why it made any impression at all, except from being excited by any new sci-fi show. All I actually remember was Ike Eisenmann and the glowy fork thing and “I will terminate you!” Back when The Bermuda Triangle was a legitimate plot device.

  15. Jonathan Perregaux

    Now I remember “The Fantastic Journey” from 1977

    This is one show from the 70's I remember watching and liking that I have not seen again as a adult. There is a Region 4 DVD available and I just might have to get a copy soon.

  16. TJPC

    Try not to be so sensitive please. I was expressing my opinion. I watched just about every Sci/Fi show produced for TV in the ‘60s and ‘70s and though some may like them, and I did at the time, I now find them all “laughably cheesy”. Among these are:

    The Star Lost
    Space 1999
    Battlestar Galactica (The Original)
    Logan’s Run
    Planet of The Apes
    Lost in Space
    V
    The Martian Chronicles
    Alien Nation.

    Except for the LIS, they were all failures after a season or 2.

    Silver Age-wise, there are other sci-fi shows:
    Doctor Who
    UFO
    Doomwatch
    Moonbase 3
    Star Maiden
    Survivors
    Blake 7
    Sapphire & Steel
    Fantastic Journey

  17. Bryan^H

    Cheesy: Very poor quality. Badly made.

    I don't think a lot of the shows mentioned meet this definition.
    Poor writing of some episodes, sure but that still exists today across many television shows.

    Something doesn't always have to be of poor quality to be cheesy. An example of a classic cheesy SF show would be Buck Rogers. It was a well made TV series, but the styles, the attitudes, the jokes almost made it dated the moment it aired. "Disco SF" is pretty darned cheesy. Even if there's a ton of money poured into it with good performances, music and direction. The 1980 "Flash Gordon" movie was intentionally cheesy.

  18. ScottRE

    Something doesn't always have to be of poor quality to be cheesy. An example of a classic cheesy SF show would be Buck Rogers. It was a well made TV series, but the styles, the attitudes, the jokes almost made it dated the moment it aired. "Disco SF" is pretty darned cheesy. Even if there's a ton of money poured into it with good performances, music and direction. The 1980 "Flash Gordon" movie was intentionally cheesy.

    Sure, things always reflect the time period in which they were made. I don't count that as a strike against it. Also, some shows and movies were absolutely intentionally campy, like the Brady Bunch Variety Hour, Batman 66, Lost In Space from season 2 on etc. But shows like Logan's Run , and Planet of the Apes (which had one of the highest production budgets of the time) and had really great writers attached to them (many from the original Star Trek) and very good acting by all involved I just don't see that as cheesy. Look at the reviews for Planet of the Apes on Amazon–the majority of the reviews are 5 star over 200 reviews. That doesn't come easy, that is earned. It was a great series that was cancelled because it went head to head against Sanford, an Son which was a ratings vacuum hugely popular, and it was on Friday night the worst night ever conceived for a sci-fi series. Logan's Run aired Friday Night CBS too just like POTA.

    Like I said Logan's Run isn't as good as POTA, but it isn't that bad either.

  19. Planet of the Apes wasn't bad and I don't think cheesy fits for it either. I did find it bland, though. The premiere was excellent and The Trap was good, as was the one where the blind chimpanzee falls in love with Virdon, believing he's an ape. But for the most part, it felt half-hearted. However, I consider it a legit follow up to the films and if you (like me) buy that the timeline altered because of the events of Escape, Conquest and Battle, this version actually fits. Apes and humans had a fragile peace for some time before separating again. Roddy McDowell is always a treat and made the series as fun as it was.

  20. ScottRE

    Planet of the Apes wasn't bad and I don't think cheesy fits for it either. I did find it bland, though. The premiere was excellent and The Trap was good, as was the one where the blind chimpanzee falls in love with Virdon, believing he's an ape. But for the most part, it felt half-hearted. However, I consider it a legit follow up to the films and if you (like me) buy that the timeline altered because of the events of Escape, Conquest and Battle, this version actually fits. Apes and humans had a fragile peace for some time before separating again. Roddy McDowell is always a treat and made the series as fun as it was.

    I think Mark Lenard, and Roddy McDowall (who loved working on this series) made the series special.
    I always loved the concept of the show–before humans were wild mute savages, but speaking, and enslaved by the apes.

    This short interview with Mark Lenard reflecting about playing chief of security Urko is great:

  21. Many of these shows from the 70s – Planet of the Apes, Logan's Run, The Incredible Hulk – are simply variations on The Fugitive: main character(s) always running, escaping someone from law enforcement (or the press in the Hulk's case), and meeting new characters and telling a new story each week. The Fugitive did it best, but I enjoyed all of those shows, none of which I would call "cheesy." I'd call Sigmund and the Sea Monsters "cheesy," and I mean that kindly.

  22. Honestly, when it comes to the original POTA series, from the classic first film all the way to the final episode of the short lived TV series (and even including the cartoon), I have an irrational love. No matter how "less than amazing" a film or episode was, it remains one of my all time SF franchises. It's up there with Star Trek and Star Wars with me.

    Perhaps in the dead cold winter months, I'll do an Apes marathon.

  23. Bryan^H

    This short interview with Mark Lenard reflecting about playing chief of security Urko is great:

    Great interview – thanks for posting!

    I grew up in the '70s and watched any sci-fi show that came down the pike, but I haven't seen the Planet of the Apes TV series (or the Logan's Run one, for that matter), since they first aired.

  24. The series started with the premise that Burke and Virdon had a slim chance to return home in the past with their small metallic chip.
    That approach was gradually abandoned. Anyway, the episodes I found the most exciting are the ones taking place in destroyed cities.

    My Top 5 POTA
    “Escape from Tomorrow” (pilot)
    “The Trap”
    “The Legacy”
    “The Interrogation”
    “The Tyrant”

  25. I would say Logan's Run did appeal to me as a kid, for whatever reason. I liked the idea of them trying to rebuild society. It's just that they ended up running around in circles and that's why it got cancelled, more than bad scripts–because the scripts really weren't bad. They were "B" level dramas but not bad, as in shlock or camp, and I don't know why anybody thinks so.

  26. JohnHopper

    The series started with the premise that Burke and Virdon had a slim chance to return home in the past with their small metallic chip.
    That approach was gradually abandoned. Anyway, the episodes I found the most exciting are the ones taking place in destroyed cities.

    My Top 5 POTA
    “Escape from Tomorrow” (pilot)
    “The Trap”
    “The Legacy”
    “The Interrogation”
    “The Tyrant”

    All great episodes.
    "The Trap" is probably the standout of the entire series. It seems to be a fan favorite.

    I fell in love with this show as a kid in 1980 when it played as 5 Telemovies, or 2 episodes together Monday through Friday on "Ape Week". I forgot all about it until 1994 when I saw it was airing on the Disney channel of all places-late on Saturday nights. I picked up the complete series on DVD in 2001, and for the first time was able to watch every episode uncut, and in order of air date. I was overjoyed, and it has been, and will be my most prized set on disc until the day I die.
    Not even Star Trek can transport me fully out of the troubles, stress and harsh realities of the real world like this series can. It is the perfect "escapist" television show in my opinion.

  27. Jeff Flugel

    Great interview – thanks for posting!

    I grew up in the '70s and watched any sci-fi show that came down the pike, but I haven't seen the Planet of the Apes TV series (or the Logan's Run one, for that matter), since they first aired.

    When I watched Logan's Run I was pretty pleased overall. It was a good sci-fi series, but with the talent involved (writers D.C. Fontana, David Gerrold, Harlan Ellison) I think it should have been great.

    I certainly recommend rewatching both shows.

  28. JohnHopper

    POTA (the series)-wise, I own the two soundtrack CDs released by Intrada and La-La Land.

    I do too. It is great score. Lalo Schifrin is fantastic, and on the two disc set, I like some of the other music compositions from the other composer. "Tomorrow's Tide" is a wonderful track.

  29. TJPC

    Try not to be so sensitive please. I was expressing my opinion. I watched just about every Sci/Fi show produced for TV in the ‘60s and ‘70s and though some may like them, and I did at the time, I now find them all “laughably cheesy”. Among these are:

    The Star Lost
    Space 1999
    Battlestar Galactica (The Original)
    Logan’s Run
    Planet of The Apes
    Lost in Space
    V
    The Martian Chronicles
    Alien Nation.

    Except for the LIS, they were all failures after a season or 2.

    Ok, so what exactly in Planet of the Apes, or Logan's Run do find "laughable". They aren't comedies…so what are you laughing at?

    TJPC

    I wouldn’t get excited either way. Have you seen this series? It is one of the most laughably cheesy programs ever made. I am sure everyone involved leaves it off their resume. It makes “Lost In Space” look like “Game of Thrones”!

    I would gladly watch half those "laughably cheesy" shows any day of the week over what you must consider the high watermark in television programming Game of Thrones!!
    As that I find to be pretty damned depressing series.

  30. I don’t watch GOT. I was using it as in “look like Shakespeare”. I own “Logan’s Run” the series and film. I actually found the movie terrible when it first came out and still really bad. The special effects look very cheap to me and always have. Somehow I acquired the DVD set of the TV show and dutifully watched it once. Maybe the writing was ok, but again the special effects look like cardboard and take me right out of it. I used to use the movie as an example of the state of things before “Star Wars”.

    I will admit that the first “Planet of The Apes” movie was fairly well done, but having recently watched the Blu ray set, I believe they got sillier and sillier as they went on. This possibly made me not give the TV series a fair chance.

    I just think the whole “Planet Of The Apes” saga is not interesting to me. I own the latest series and find they don’t stand up to repeat viewing for me even in 3D.

  31. It's interesting how we view the same things with different eyes. Regarding the Apes franchise…

    POTA: a near perfect film. Amazing and even knowing the outcome, the finale still hits hard.
    BTPOA: a major step down. There was no narrative reason to continue, just monetary. Even how they made it is telling: "it needs the visual shock of the first." Even the ending was dictated by Charlton Heston's desire to never be called again. However, it was on channel 9 a lot and I loved it growing up. It's the only sequel film to take place in the same timeline as the original.
    EFTPOTA: amazing film! Made on the cheap but beautifully written and with a definite narrative thrust that propelled the next film. The ending is a gut punch like no other.
    COTPOTA: The director's cut, the one with all the violence, was astounding (although the one shot of a hand tossing a paper cup of blood should have been cut before this hit blu-ray – totally ruined the effect). They had something to say and they said it loudly. The only downside was this should have been the final film. It was a perfect ending.
    BFTPOTA: it's not "bad" just pointless. It takes place in a park, for Chrissakes. IT does, though, set up the TV Series so well, it could have stood in as a pilot episode. In fact, it LOOKS like a TV show. By the time it ends, humans and apes have a fragile peace, with humans still speaking. The atomic war already happened, moving Cornelius and Zira to the 70's not only brought talking apes to Earth sooner than previously, the apes apparently saved the humans. By the time we pick it up when the TV Series premiered, humans had fallen back down the totem pole. Still not mute, and dogs returned, but it fits very comfortably into the timeline.

    TV Series: already talked about it.

    Return to the Planet of the Apes: different storyline than the movies, but still well written, if really poorly (and barely) animated.

    POTA 2001: knowing this was the first of a projected series, the ending isn't as offensive as I once considered. But the film is nothing more than an extended chase through Ape City. It really doesn't say much of anything and Mark Wahlberg is pretty one-note. This also has none of Tim Burton's touches, Lawgiver knows why he was even attached to it. Good Danny Eflman score, but – again – very little of his quirkiness. Great makeup, though.

    The recent trilogy: I loved it. I can't say enough good things about it and the final film, War of the Planet of the Apes, is astounding.

    Love the apes franchise.

  32. TJPC

    I don’t watch GOT. I was using it as in “look like Shakespeare”. I own “Logan’s Run” the series and film. I actually found the movie terrible when it first came out and still really bad. The special effects look very cheap to me and always have. Somehow I acquired the DVD set of the TV show and dutifully watched it once. Maybe the writing was ok, but again the special effects look like cardboard and take me right out of it. I used to use the movie as an example of the state of things before “Star Wars”.

    I will admit that the first “Planet of The Apes” movie was fairly well done, but having recently watched the Blu ray set, I believe they got sillier and sillier as they went on. This possibly made me not give the TV series a fair chance.

    I just think the whole “Planet Of The Apes” saga is not interesting to me. I own the latest series and find they don’t stand up to repeat viewing for me even in 3D.

    That is fine. Everyone has their likes, and dislikes.

    I was just wondering.

  33. ScottRE

    It's interesting how we view the same things with different eyes. Regarding the Apes franchise…

    POTA: a near perfect film. Amazing and even knowing the outcome, the finale still hits hard.
    BTPOA: a major step down. There was no narrative reason to continue, just monetary. Even how they made it is telling: "it needs the visual shock of the first." Even the ending was dictated by Charlton Heston's desire to never be called again. However, it was on channel 9 a lot and I loved it growing up. It's the only sequel film to take place in the same timeline as the original.
    EFTPOTA: amazing film! Made on the cheap but beautifully written and with a definite narrative thrust that propelled the next film. The ending is a gut punch like no other.
    COTPOTA: The director's cut, the one with all the violence, was astounding (although the one shot of a hand tossing a paper cup of blood should have been cut before this hit blu-ray – totally ruined the effect). They had something to say and they said it loudly. The only downside was this should have been the final film. It was a perfect ending.
    BFTPOTA: it's not "bad" just pointless. It takes place in a park, for Chrissakes. IT does, though, set up the TV Series so well, it could have stood in as a pilot episode. In fact, it LOOKS like a TV show. By the time it ends, humans and apes have a fragile peace, with humans still speaking. The atomic war already happened, moving Cornelius and Zira to the 70's not only brought talking apes to Earth sooner than previously, the apes apparently saved the humans. By the time we pick it up when the TV Series premiered, humans had fallen back down the totem pole. Still not mute, and dogs returned, but it fits very comfortably into the timeline.

    TV Series: already talked about it.

    Return to the Planet of the Apes: different storyline than the movies, but still well written, if really poorly (and barely) animated.

    POTA 2001: knowing this was the first of a projected series, the ending isn't as offensive as I once considered. But the film is nothing more than an extended chase through Ape City. It really doesn't say much of anything and Mark Wahlberg is pretty one-note. This also has none of Tim Burton's touches, Lawgiver knows why he was even attached to it. Good Danny Eflman score, but – again – very little of his quirkiness. Great makeup, though.

    The recent trilogy: I loved it. I can't say enough good things about it and the final film, War of the Planet of the Apes, is astounding.

    Love the apes franchise.

    Nice summary Scott!
    Except for "Conquest" which I still don't think is that great of an Ape film, my taste in the movies, and series is almost identical to how you feel about them.

    "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" could have been so much better if Heston agreed to do the entire film, and not just a bit part as a favor to Zanuck.

  34. Conquest went up the ladder for me when I saw the extended cut. It's uncompromising and needs that edge to support the thin storyline. The theatrical version is toned down too much and was just a bunch of apes in Century City. Roddy McDowall was incredibly good in this. Don Murray, not so much….

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