Is Warner All MOD now? (1 Viewer)

That would account for their slow fulfillment of orders. They were slow Pre pandemic too

(Not an answer to the OP's question, but more generally).

I just assume now that anything and everything will not be released at all or is just mod. Consider yourself lucky if something gets a wide market release (ie. wallyworld, etc ...).

jcroy said:

(Not an answer to the OP's question, but more generally).

I just assume now that anything and everything will not be released at all or is just mod. Consider yourself lucky if something gets a wide market release (ie. wallyworld, etc ...).

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I assumed that for a little while last year, but not so much since it's become clear that releases have never ceased entirely even during the worst days of the pandemic. Slowed down, or at least delayed? Definitely.

But I digress.

From what I've read, MODs seem to take up the greater lions share of Warner's disc releases these days.

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Well a quick search showed Tenet came out in December, and Wonder Woman 84 just came out, and neither was MOD, so I would say the answer to the OP's question is NO.

David Weicker said:

Well a quick search showed Tenet came out in December, and Wonder Woman 84 just came out, and neither was MOD, so I would say the answer to the OP's question is NO.

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A better question is: what type of stuff would have received a general wide market release 5 or 10 years ago, which would not be released at all or only have an MOD release today?

For example, current Warner owned/produced network tv shows like "All Rise" or "Bob Hearts Abishola" have not had any dvd releases yet in region1. (These two shows are currently in their second seasons).

As much as I hate to say it, physical media seems to be on hospice. I predict that in a few short years everything will go to streaming though I'm sure MOD will be around as long as there is a demand. I know that all the new release DVDs, Blu Rays, and, especially CDs, I have bought over the past few years have come from Amazon. The days when I could drive to Walmart and pick up new releases of older films, tv shows, and oldies music appear to be, for me anyway, a distant memory from the past.

I don't think Blu-Ray releases will be MOD any time soon, given the higher blank media costs and time involved. That might mean smaller print-runs, and fewer 'fringe' released getting a BD release at all (and maybe just being MOD DVD).

Pretty sure that Blu-rays are and will continue to be pressed, as was last week's Damn Yankees release. Fulfillment time from the WB Shop has slowed down considerably, and Amazon seems to give delivery windows of 4 to 6 weeks, and that's for Prime members. My best source now for WB Blu-ray releases is Barnes and Noble online.

An Elvis Fan said:

As much as I hate to say it, physical media seems to be on hospice.

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I expect you're right and I read a post from a CD manufacturer that said, "there's currently a shortage of polycarbonate used to manufacture CDs...It's causing big delays." So I assume a similar if not the same material is used in DVDs, etc. This could be causing extra delays.

An Elvis Fan said:

As much as I hate to say it, physical media seems to be on hospice. I predict that in a few short years everything will go to streaming though I'm sure MOD will be around as long as there is a demand. I know that all the new release DVDs, Blu Rays, and, especially CDs, I have bought over the past few years have come from Amazon. The days when I could drive to Walmart and pick up new releases of older films, tv shows, and oldies music appear to be, for me anyway, a distant memory from the past.

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Has anyone done a comprehensive comparison of regular and UHD Blu-rays versus the equivalently mastered streaming versions? My main concern is picture quality but I realize others will be equally concerned about audio.

Are all streaming versions from the major platforms (Netflix, Prime, Vudu, Apple etc) the same?

I continue to buy Blu-rays (and a few DVDs) because often the prices are so low (lower than the cost to stream) or the movie justifies the expense or, multiple transfers exist and the streaming versions offer no details on the transfer.

Of course, when the stream is free, all these concerns go out the window. A case in point, I've been watching the Lenzi/Baker movies on Tubi, the Blu-ray boxset that came out two years ago costs $70, so no complaints from me. Of all the 'free' apps I like Tubi because the ads are infrequent and the ad audio volume is low (not irritating).

Bartman said:

Of course, when the stream is free, all these concerns go out the window.

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Streaming services constantly change their free content. So If you like something I suggest you buy the physical media to help support the manufacturer and assure you can watch it for years to come. Also I enjoy the commentaries on the physical media. It's like having a full length making of documentary. Though modern TVs give you a choice of soundtracks, I have yet to see a streaming service offer a commentary track. Case in point I purchased Jersey Boys even thought it was on Netflix, where I usually watched it. Lately I noticed it has rotated off Netflix.

Perhaps we could change this. Mr. Smith went to Washington. Well I say Physical Media collectors can go to Hollywood

TallPaulInKy said:

Streaming services constantly change their free content. So If you like something I suggest you buy the physical media to help support the manufacturer and assure you can watch it for years to come. Also I enjoy the commentaries on the physical media. It's like having a full length making of documentary. Though modern TVs give you a choice of soundtracks, I have yet to see a streaming service offer a commentary track. Case in point I purchased Jersey Boys even thought it was on Netflix, where I usually watched it. Lately I noticed it has rotated off Netflix.

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I use JustWatch.com to check for streaming content (old & new), most often when a new physical media version comes out. I use Netflix and YouTube to check out content prior to possible physical media purchase.
I've been thru four buying cycles (VHS, laserdisc, DVD, Blu-ray) and I refuse to go to 4K UHD because of the small benefit (my eyesight/glasses/brain may need an upgrade) and lack of storage space (my basement contains boxes of laserdiscs and crates of DVDs). I have been buying regular Blu-rays where the UHD has been botched or offers no improvement.
If I ever watch a 4K movie it will be streamed. The "Movie Collector" on YouTube (a person with considerable experience including film) compared Disney+ 4K vs UHD and found the difference imperceptible but I'd like to know if that's also true for the services I use (Netflix & Prime). Movie audio options and movie extras are no longer so important to me.

Here is yet another thread that confuses the term "MOD" with "burned media". All Warner Archive Blu-rays are MOD, but not burned. As stock is depleted, former large-run Warner releases are transitioned to MOD or "press on demand" if you will. The only titles currently being released the old way in huge print runs are new blockbuster movies, as in the latest DC movies.

It can be confusing. There is no such thing as "press on demand." Small print runs are pressed all at once and shipped as they're sold, one by one, and that's considered BD MOD. Former WHV titles transition to "burn on demand" (DVD-R).

Traveling Matt said:

It can be confusing. There is no such thing as "press on demand." Small print runs are pressed all at once and shipped as they're sold, one by one, and that's considered BD MOD. Former WHV titles transition to "burn on demand" (DVD-R).

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That’s why it was in quotes. As in small print runs are what I have coined as “press on demand”.

MOD = Manufactured on Demand. It can mean either a small run of pressed discs made as needed *or* burned discs created as needed.

Currently, *all* WA BR MOD is smaller runs of pressed discs. If a title goes OOS at Warner, they do another small run of pressed copies.

WA DVD MOD are typically burned (DVD-R) *but* often have a small run of pressed discs for the initial release and then transition to BOD (Burned on Demand) when that initial supply of pressed discs is exhausted.

In the past you could *never* expect to receive a *pressed* WA MOD DVD if it was ordered from Amazon. You had to use the Warner Store, Deepdiscount, Target, and a few others to get those early pressed copies. With the Warner Archive store apparently finding a new home at Amazon it'll be interesting to see if you can finally expect pressed copies when ordered early from that outlet.

BobO'Link said:

MOD = Manufactured on Demand.
In the past you could *never* expect to receive a *pressed* WA MOD DVD if it was ordered from Amazon. You had to use the Warner Store, Deep Discount, Target, and a few others to get those early pressed copies. With the Warner Archive store apparently finding a new home at Amazon it'll be interesting to see if you can finally expect pressed copies when ordered early from that outlet.

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So how does this jive with the current thread titled, "Amazon Cancelling MOD Releases" ? Will they continue making them for clients like Warners?

TallPaulInKy said:

So how does this jive with the current thread titled, "Amazon Cancelling MOD Releases" ? Will they continue making them for clients like Warners?

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Is WarnerArchive just creating a shop where amazon is only doing fulfillment?

ie. Where WarnerArchive is "renting" out space in an amazon warehouse, where WarnerArchive sends new inventory every few weeks to restock ?

TallPaulInKy said:

So how does this jive with the current thread titled, "Amazon Cancelling MOD Releases" ? Will they continue making them for clients like Warners?

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Good question that I don't have the answer for. That thread *seems* to be saying Amazon's no longer doing DVD-R releases for "independent" types. It doesn't really answer the question of "Is Amazon shutting down their "create space" segment?" If they are then that bodes well for getting early pressed copies from Amazon of the WA titles receiving that treatment. I won't be the one testing that though. I'll continue to use Deepdiscount or Target for my WA DVD titles - partly because they have sales on those titles and Amazon rarely does. I kind of doubt we'll see those 4/$11 sales through the WA Amazon store.