HTF EXCLUSIVE! Twilight Time July 2018 Release Announcements

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Twilight Time has given us an exclusive early look at these July Announcements. Enjoy!
If you see these titles posted elsewhere within 8 HOURS without credit being given to HTF, rest assured it came from us first! Note: Moving forward we are going to announce our schedule ONE month at a time instead of two.

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THE CHILDREN OF HUANG SHI (2008) BLU-RAY – July 17th

GENGHIS KHAN (1965) BLU-RAY – July 17th

CINDERELLA LIBERTY (1973) BLU-RAY – July 17th

THE REVOLT OF MAMIE STOVER (1956) BLU-RAY – July 17th

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  1. I saw Genghis Khan at the cinema aged 14 (about the right age to see it) & thought it was great. I suppose you could say it's a typical dopey period film of its time, but it has a fantastic score & cast (two great names not on the poster, Michael Hordon & Woody Strode) & there's a real brio about it, I'm very tempted. After years of seeing awful pan & scan & cut about old prints on TV, I was delighted to see a stunning HD transfer on the BBC a couple of years ago (they also showed The Long Ships in HD, but that looked less than stella, a lot less). Stephen Boyd is great as the villain, as he was in Ben-Hur, but he was such a bore as the hero in Fall Of The Roman Empire. So far it's a very good year for sixties movies on Blu-ray…keep it up .:)

  2. Hooraaaaay! :dancing-banana-04:
    Cinderella liberty (and I hope it has the isolated John Williams score).

    Thank you so much TT!

    Genghis Khan also sounds interesting since I love this genre and I think it's ideal for bluray presentation.

  3. I was about the same age as Alan when I saw Genghis Khan and loved every minute of it. I have revisited it many times over the years and have always had fun with it. The music score is outstanding. I never imagined seeing this on Blu- thank you TT.
    I am unfamiliar with Huang Shi but may give it a try.

  4. Dear @Twilight Time please make sure that the Cinderella Liberty bluray uses the original opening marching band and not the revised one from the 2006 DVD.

    The original one is the Anchors Aweigh march while the 2006 DVD used – due to copyrights probably – Stars and Stripes forever. (the Anchors Aweigh one also seems much more in sync with the picture)

  5. Nothing for me either. As much as I appreciate what TT and the other labels are releasing, the July slate from TT is a save the money month for me 🙂 i hope we get a batch of Noirs from them one of these upcoming months, especially from the Sony Columbia library ..Id be all over Between Midnight and Dawn, The Mob, My Name is Julie Ross..
    Plus there's a few from Fox Im hoping for such as Nightmare Alley, Fallen Angel, etc Im trying to avoid importing

  6. Cant wait to revisit Cinderella Liberty. And finally Revolt of M S!

    Recently rewatched the Sony DVD-R of Cann and Mason in Chapter Two. Highly underrated film. Really love that one also.

    Neil Simon on BLU Esp Sony Rastar output is largely absent sadly.

  7. Konstantinos

    Hooraaaaay! :dancing-banana-04:
    Cinderella liberty (and I hope it has the isolated John Williams score).

    Yes, and it's a brand new 4K transfer as well, that is still being worked on as we speak. (Ditto Mamie Stover.)

  8. Never saw "Cinderella Liberty", as I was too young to get into the theater when it came out.
    I'm a big fan of director Mark Rydell, as well.
    I've always liked his selection of material and the performances he elicits from his actors.
    As it it, Marsha Mason received a Best Actress nomination.
    And then there's DP Vilmos Zsigmond.
    That, alone, is always worth the price of admission; especially since I just learned that its a 4K transfer.
    I'm all in.:thumbs-up-smiley:

  9. Yes! Finally The Revolt Of Mamie Stover! I'm all over that one! I have the Spanish DVD (and no, it's not a bootleg, it's licensed from Fox) and the transfer was excellent except for non removable Spanish subtitles so the TT blu should be impressive. I'm happy with my Genghis Khan DVD and the other two titles don't interest me (I disliked Cinderella Liberty).

  10. Rodney

    What a revoltin' development this month is!

    [​IMG]

    And in a new 4K transfer too! If my memory of the film is correct, the reason Mamie had to leave San Francisco is never explained in detail. A lot is left to our imagination . . . and where Jane Russell is concerned, that's no bad thing!:)

  11. PMF

    Never saw "Cinderella Liberty", as I was too young to get into the theater when it came out.
    I'm a big fan of director Mark Rydell, as well.
    I've always liked his selection of material and the performances he elicits from his actors.

    I hope they release The RIver too. I watched this for the first time on VHS one morning in bed (near 2003) and loved it!
    And I'd love a 4K restoration of On Golden Pond.
    (i don't know if this is possible since it has been released by Shout already)

  12. Robin9

    And in a new 4K transfer too! If my memory of the film is correct, the reason Mamie had to leave San Francisco is never explained in detail. A lot is left to our imagination . . . and where Jane Russell is concerned, that's no bad thing!:)

    Ah, the 1950s, where everything had to be cleaned up to protect the morals of movie audiences but not book readers apparently :)The prostitutes of the novel (like From Here To Eternity's journey from page to screen) in Revolt Of Mamie Stover are made over into dance hostesses (apparently a 1950s euphemism for hookers). No explanation of why Jane is kicked out of San Francisco is necessary, we know, don't we. 😮

  13. Thomas T

    Yes! Finally The Revolt Of Mamie Stover! I'm all over that one! I have the Spanish DVD (and no, it's not a bootleg, it's licensed from Fox) and the transfer was excellent except for non removable Spanish subtitles so the TT blu should be impressive. I'm happy with my Genghis Khan DVD and the other two titles don't interest me (I disliked Cinderella Liberty).

    The Revolt of Mamie Stover had some various attributes in its favor that gained my attentions;
    after all, having never seen this film would mean a blind buy.
    BUT, when our discerning Thomas T states a "Yes!" and a "Finally" towards this release, then that's plenty good for me.

  14. Konstantinos

    I hope they release The RIver too. I watched this for the first time on VHS one morning in bed (near 2003) and loved it!
    And I'd love a 4K restoration of On Golden Pond.
    (i don't know if this is possible since it has been released by Shout already)

    Ah, yes, here is another example of my earlier views on how Mark Rydell elicits great performances;
    as Sissy Spacek – just like Marsha Mason – was also nominated for Best Actress under his direction.
    And, like "Cinderella Liberty", John Williams and Vilmos Zsigmiond were both on board, again.
    BTW, both men were nominated for their work on The River, as well. Excellent suggestion, Konstantinos.

    As it is, I am most fascinated by the films of directors whose foundational training were within the legendary American schools of "Method". Warren Beatty, Kevin Costner and Peter Bogdonavich had trained under Stella Adler. Meanwhile, you've got Sidney Lumet, Martin Ritt and Mark Rydell who, subsequently, trained under Sanford Meisner at The Neighborhood Playhouse.

    Of course, for matters pertaining to this months latest Twilight Time annoucements, James Caan also trained under Sanford Meisner;
    which now brings us full-circle and back to "Cinderella Liberty".

  15. Robin9

    Dead simple: Genghis Khan and The Revolt Of Mamie Stover.

    Took the words right out of my mouth. Genghis Khan is a truly delightful surprise. This bodes well for more of my beloved widescreen historical films coming from TT, very exciting indeed! If only someday Barabbas, The Story of Ruth, Esther and the King (Richard Egan rules here) or Salome.

  16. Ed Lachmann

    Took the words right out of my mouth. Genghis Khan is a truly delightful surprise. This bodes well for more of my beloved widescreen historical films coming from TT, very exciting indeed! If only someday Barabbas, The Story of Ruth, Esther and the King (Richard Egan rules here) or Salome.

    It looked like they were projecting a very good looking DCP of The Story of Ruth in the 2018 Academy Award Best Picture winner … (in the behind the scenes it looked like they were actually projecting it …)

  17. …when I was a kid two films I really got a kick out of were GENGHIS KHAN (1965) and THE LONG SHIPS (1964) and one huge reason for both of them were their rousing scores (I would pick out their title themes on the family piano)!!! Of course it turned out that both of them were composed by the same composer Serbian Dusan Radic (& it took forever for me to track down the LPs for them)!!! What I really found fascinating was when I discovered they were the only two Hollywood films he composed!?!! Watching them now with an adult perspective the films are somewhat wonky but boy do their scores still hold a huge sway over me and really make the films so watchable despite their flaws!!! I'm excited to see Twilight Time doing a release of GENGHIS KHAN and of course this will be one I defintely be utilizing the isolated score!!! Now hopefully we will see a Blu-ray release of THE LONG SHIPS eventually…

  18. …when I was a kid two films I really got a kick out of were GENGHIS KHAN (1965) and THE LONG SHIPS (1964) and one huge reason for both of them were their rousing scores (I would pick out their title themes on the family piano)!!! Of course it turned out that both of them were composed by the same composer Serbian Dusan Radic (& it took forever for me to track down the LPs for them)!!! What I really found fascinating was when I discovered they were the only two Hollywood films he composed!?!! Watching them now with an adult perspective the films are somewhat wonky but boy do their scores still hold a huge sway over me and really make the films so watchable despite their flaws!!! I'm excited to see Twilight Time doing a release of GENGHIS KHAN and of course this will be one I defintely be utilizing the isolated score!!! Now hopefully we will see a Blu-ray release of THE LONG SHIPS eventually…

  19. B-ROLL

    It looked like they were projecting a very good looking DCP of The Story of Ruth in the 2018 Academy Award Best Picture winner … (in the behind the scenes it looked like they were actually projecting it …)

    Indeed it raised the hope of a future BD release of The Story of Ruth. BTW, this film, with its theme of wherever you go, I go, is very germane to The Shape of Water.

  20. Billy Batson

    I saw Genghis Khan at the cinema aged 14 (about the right age to see it) & thought it was great. I suppose you could say it's a typical dopey period film of its time, but it has a fantastic score & cast (two great names not on the poster, Michael Hordon & Woody Strode) & there's a real brio about it, I'm very tempted. After years of seeing awful pan & scan & cut about old prints on TV, I was delighted to see a stunning HD transfer on the BBC a couple of years ago (they also showed The Long Ships in HD, but that looked less than stella, a lot less). Stephen Boyd is great as the villain, as he was in Ben-Hur, but he was such a bore as the hero in Fall Of The Roman Empire. So far it's a very good year for sixties movies on Blu-ray…keep it up .:)

    For what it's worth, Leonard Maltin gives it one and 1/2 stars and calls it "Laughable epic with gross miscasting and juvenile script." I guess none of us are 14 anymore. Cheers~~

  21. filmnoirguy

    For what it's worth, Leonard Maltin gives it one and 1/2 stars and calls it "Laughable epic with gross miscasting and juvenile script." I guess none of us are 14 anymore. Cheers~~

    Maltin is a movie reviewer and not a film critic (there is a difference) and he also gave one and a half stars to the original Blade Runner (which makes it equal to Genghis Khan in Maltin's opinion) and a mere two stars to Taxi Driver. For what it's worth 🙂

  22. Thomas T

    Maltin is a movie reviewer and not a film critic (there is a difference) and he also gave one and a half stars to the original Blade Runner (which makes it equal to Genghis Khan in Maltin's opinion) and a mere two stars to Taxi Driver. For what it's worth 🙂

    Mystery Science Theater 3000 did an episode noting Maltin's star ratings, the movie under fire was "Laserblast," which Maltin gave 2.5 stars. "Being There – 2 stars": Scroll to 11:40 for the end titles where they detail the ratings.

  23. filmnoirguy

    For what it's worth, Leonard Maltin gives it one and 1/2 stars and calls it "Laughable epic with gross miscasting and juvenile script." I guess none of us are 14 anymore. Cheers~~

    The "respectable film critic" Leonard Maltin gives EVERY "peplum" and most "historical epics" one and a half stars. His scoring is SO ridiculous that I'm convinced he never actually saw any or most of them. After I discovered his "faux critique method", I would say it ain't worth much. If did did that to all unusual noirs, you might think of him in a different light.

  24. Bernard McNair

    I was about the same age as Alan when I saw Genghis Khan and loved every minute of it. I have revisited it many times over the years and have always had fun with it. The music score is outstanding. I never imagined seeing this on Blu- thank you TT.
    I am unfamiliar with Huang Shi but may give it a try.

  25. I am pleased to note that so many respondents mentioned the music score, which was the work of the Serbo-Croatian composer, Dusan Radic, who also composed the music for The Long Ships. He is mostly forgotten today. A considerable amount of his concert music is still performed in his home country.

  26. Let me say first that I love TLT’s transfers. My problem is with their choice of film. I know there are many of you that think the ’70’s had the best films and others who feel that noir is all! Let me put in my two cents for Twilight Time upgrades of THIEF OF BAGDAD(1939) and SHOWBOAT (1936). The former has colors that would pop off the screen as well as a great Miklos Rozsa score, and the latter in glorious black and white looking like the most beautiful of woodcuts with superlative direction by James Whale and wonderful performances by Paul Robson and Hattie McDaniel. A few cringeworthy racist moments but all in all a magnificent work. P.S. And since Fox seems to be a favorite, how about a new print of CARMEN JONES?

  27. Thomas T

    Maltin is a movie reviewer and not a film critic (there is a difference) and he also gave one and a half stars to the original Blade Runner (which makes it equal to Genghis Khan in Maltin's opinion) and a mere two stars to Taxi Driver. For what it's worth 🙂

    Holy Cow !!! Maltin gave "Taxi Driver" only 2 stars? Huh? What? This has to be a case of personal tastes; coming from the guy who got the brilliant "Disney Treasures" going and – back in the 70's – wrote an excellent and comprehensive book on comedy shorts. That's why its good to know the tastes of the critic/movie reviewer; as this it makes it easier to discern when dealing with your own tastes. But, with that said, what are the additional attributes (besides its music) that make Genghis Khan noteworthy in being a TT release? This is not at all a sarcasm, as I am not familiar with the film.

  28. PMF

    Holy Cow !!! Maltin gave "Taxi Driver" only 2 stars? Huh? What? This has to be a case of personal tastes; coming from the guy who got the brilliant "Disney Treasures" going and – back in the 70's – wrote an excellent and comprehensive book on comedy shorts. That's why its good to know the tastes of the critic/movie reviewer; as this it makes it easier to discern when dealing with your own tastes. But, with that said, what are the additional attributes (besides its music) that make Genghis Khan noteworthy in being a TT release? This is not at all a sarcasm; it's only a case of my not being familiar with the film, at all.

    I enjoy Genghis Khan moderately enough to own it on DVD but not enough to upgrade to blu ray though if it pops up at $9.99 at some TT sale I might bite as I did with Secret Of Santa Vittoria, another film I like well enough but don't love. So I'm not the one to come to Khan's defense :). I merely responded with that tidbit to show that Matlin's tastes are not definitive (even he calls them opinions). Personally, I think he's pretty much a hack but hey, that's just me. Not as bad as Rex Reed (who is?) but pretty low on the critical scale for me. I prefer real critics like Pauline Kael, Andrew Sarris, Roger Ebert and Manohla Dargis which is not to say I take their word as gospel either but at least I respect their opinions even if I don't agree with them (which I often don't). I would imagine TT decided to release Genghis Khan because the film elements are in good shape and the film does have a cult following of sorts.

  29. addisondewitt

    Let me put in my two cents for Twilight Time upgrades of THIEF OF BAGDAD(1939)… colors that would pop off the screen as well as a great Miklos Rozsa score

    I resemble that comment.

    [Criterion released TOB on DVD, so that’s the direction I’ve been looking to for any US Blu-ray release. I have the region-free Oz release and the region B UK Network release – both feature the same fine transfer; however, I’d pay top dollar for a full-scale restoration]

  30. Thomas T

    I enjoy Genghis Khan moderately enough to own it on DVD but not enough to upgrade to blu ray though if it pops up at $9.99 at some TT sale I might bite as I did with Secret Of Santa Vittoria, another film I like well enough but don't love. So I'm not the one to come to Khan's defense :). I merely responded with that tidbit to show that Matlin's tastes are not definitive (even he calls them opinions). Personally, I think he's pretty much a hack but hey, that's just me. Not as bad as Rex Reed (who is?) but pretty low on the critical scale for me. I prefer real critics like Pauline Kael, Andrew Sarris, Roger Ebert and Manohla Dargis which is not to say I take their word as gospel either but at least I respect their opinions even if I don't agree with them (which I often don't). I would imagine TT decided to release Genghis Khan because the film elements are in good shape and the film does have a cult following of sorts.

    I have issues only with Pauline Kael and had wished that once in her own career she knew what it was like to be washed away for 14 years by a single giant wave. A "moderately enough" on "Genghis Khan" in conjunction to my thorough enjoyment of "Santa Vittoria" works enough for me; as I don't even have the DVD and will expand my knowledge on music scoriing.
    Nice write-up Thomas T. Or is that Thomas TT?:)

  31. Whoa there, whoa…stop the presses!
    I just did some further research on "Genghis".
    This offering of Khan, in conjunction with another Caan of purchase, has now just shot right up there for me as a Must Buy.
    The cinematographer was none other than Geoffrey Unsworth.
    Too many reasons right there; especially when also discovering that this was out of Columbia Pictures.
    Unsworth, Columbia and TT; now there's a visually perfect triad.:thumbs-up-smiley:

  32. PMF

    I have issues only with Pauline Kael and had wished that once in her own career she knew what it was like to be washed away for 14 years by a single giant wave. A "moderately enough" on "Genghis Khan" in conjunction to my thorough enjoyment of "Santa Vittoria" works enough for me; as I don't even have the DVD and will delve into a purchase in order to expand my knowledge of another composer and his ways of scoring of the film.

    Nice write-up Thomas T. Or is that Thomas TT?:)

    I absolutely love Ryan's Daughter and disagreed with Kael's appraisal of it. But as much as I admire David Lean, c'mon, negative reviews are part of the game when you're a film maker so it's unfair to blame his 14 year absence on Kael's so called "power". And without Kael championing them, some great films like Bonnie And Clyde, Nashville and Last Tango In Paris might not have had the success they did. What I loved about Kael was her complete belief in her own critical faculties and it didn't matter if she wasn't in step with her peers. A film could get rave notices from every other critic but she would say, "It stinks!" or a film could get panned by all the critics and she would say, "I love it!". I loved that maverick sensibility. As someone who detests some sacred cows (Grapes Of Wrath, It's A Wonderful Life), Oscar's darlings (Gladiator, Saving Private Ryan) but loves some detested films (1973's Lost Horizon, Myra Breckinridge), I march to my own drum too! 🙂

    Now if you'll excuse me, my blu ray of TT's No Down Payment arrived in today's mail and it has been one of my Holy Grails for decades so I'm in heaven and watching it is going to be Christmas, Thanksgiving and the 4th of July rolled into one!

  33. Thomas T

    I absolutely love Ryan's Daughter and disagreed with Kael's appraisal of it. But as much as I admire David Lean, c'mon, negative reviews are part of the game when you're a film maker so it's unfair to blame his 14 year absence on Kael's so called "power".

    I think Ryan's Daughter is a good film, but one of Lean's lesser works. It's very scale and scope seem to work against the story somehow. But I think it's poor reception had less to do with the quality of the film and more to do with the fact that it was very much out of sync with the times when it was released.

  34. Worth

    I think Ryan's Daughter is a good film, but one of Lean's lesser works. It's very scale and scope seem to work against the story somehow. But I think it's poor reception had less to do with the quality of the film and more to do with the fact that it was very much out of sync with the times when it was released.

    I'd agree with the assessment that it did seem out of sync with other (more topical) films of that year like Five Easy Pieces, MASH, Little Big Man, Zabriskie Point, Woodstock, Performance, Catch 22, Where's Poppa? etc. But on the other hand, Patton and Airport were huge hits and they were just as "old fashioned" as Ryan's Daughter so …..

    But posterity has been kind to many films of that era which were dismissed for being old fashioned and not relevant while the more acclaimed films seem so dated and of their time. Films like Ryan's Daughter, Hello Dolly and Doctor Dolittle hold up surprisingly well today while Easy Rider, Midnight Cowboy and The Graduate seem like museum pieces and as our generation (the baby boomers) die off, I suspect they'll get even less love.

  35. addisondewitt

    Let me say first that I love TLT's transfers. My problem is with their choice of film. I know there are many of you that think the '70's had the best films and others who feel that noir is all! Let me put in my two cents for Twilight Time upgrades of THIEF OF BAGDAD(1939) and SHOWBOAT (1936). The former has colors that would pop off the screen as well as a great Miklos Rozsa score, and the latter in glorious black and white looking like the most beautiful of woodcuts with superlative direction by James Whale and wonderful performances by Paul Robson and Hattie McDaniel. A few cringeworthy racist moments but all in all a magnificent work. P.S. And since Fox seems to be a favorite, how about a new print of CARMEN JONES?

    Keep in mind that TT does not do restorations; they issue what the studios provide to them. Also, they can't release titles from studios that don't license films or ones that they don't have a relationship with. Warners and Universal for example don't license films to TT. Finally, a film has have a suitable HD master to be released.

    Personally, I like their varied choice of film. It's encouraged me to get out of my comfort zone at times with my blind buys to experience films I wouldn't normally have seen. Fox and Columbia do exemplary work and I can buy a TT film from one of those studios with a high degree of confidence that the presentation will be first rate.

  36. filmnoirguy

    For what it's worth, Leonard Maltin gives it one and 1/2 stars and calls it "Laughable epic with gross miscasting and juvenile script." I guess none of us are 14 anymore. Cheers~~

    Actually I don't have problem with that rating, it is a daft film (along with The Long Ships & Taras Bulba & a lot of the films that I loved, or at least liked at the time). These kind of films aren't made with critics in mind, & a lot of my enjoyment now is nostalgia based.

  37. filmnoirguy

    For what it's worth, Leonard Maltin gives it one and 1/2 stars and calls it "Laughable epic with gross miscasting and juvenile script." I guess none of us are 14 anymore. Cheers~~

    Actually I don't have problem with that rating, it is a daft film (along with The Long Ships & Taras Bulba & a lot of the films that I loved, or at least liked at the time). These kind of films aren't made with critics in mind, & a lot of my enjoyment now is nostalgia based.

  38. filmnoirguy

    For what it's worth, Leonard Maltin gives it one and 1/2 stars and calls it "Laughable epic with gross miscasting and juvenile script." I guess none of us are 14 anymore. Cheers~~

    I think Maltin is spot on. I was several years older than 14 when I saw the film on first release and thought it totally risible. A pity, considering the talent involved.

  39. filmnoirguy

    For what it's worth, Leonard Maltin gives it one and 1/2 stars and calls it "Laughable epic with gross miscasting and juvenile script." I guess none of us are 14 anymore. Cheers~~

    I think Maltin is spot on. I was several years older than 14 when I saw the film on first release and thought it totally risible. A pity, considering the talent involved.

  40. Douglas R

    I think Maltin is spot on. I was several years older than 14 when I saw the film on first release and thought it totally risible. A pity, considering the talent involved.

    Yeah, maybe over 14 was too old. Even at that age I noticed that Robert Morley as the Emperor Of China spoke in a very posh English accent, whereas his adviser James Mason spoke in this risable pantomime Chinese accent. And the massive wooden yoke that young Temujin has to wear, the hole where his head pokes through is so big that he could lift it off at any time, & so on…(mind you none of this is as bad as The Long Ships, with that massive solid gold bell floating on the sea as if it was made of…polystyrene!). I could go on, but in the end this stuff either amuses you bores & annoys you.

    One thing's for sure, Omar Sharif had an amazing career.

  41. Douglas R

    I think Maltin is spot on. I was several years older than 14 when I saw the film on first release and thought it totally risible. A pity, considering the talent involved.

    Yeah, maybe over 14 was too old. Even at that age I noticed that Robert Morley as the Emperor Of China spoke in a very posh English accent, whereas his adviser James Mason spoke in this risable pantomime Chinese accent. And the massive wooden yoke that young Temujin has to wear, the hole where his head pokes through is so big that he could lift it off at any time, & so on…(mind you none of this is as bad as The Long Ships, with that massive solid gold bell floating on the sea as if it was made of…polystyrene!). I could go on, but in the end this stuff either amuses you bores & annoys you.

    One thing's for sure, Omar Sharif had an amazing career.

  42. Billy Batson

    […]One thing's for sure, Omar Sharif had an amazing career.

    When you get to work with David Lean on two consecutive films, there's little place else where an actor can go;
    that is, unless, it's William Wyler calling you, too.

  43. Mamie Stover is day one for me. Now in the Cinemascopes I am only waiting for Star! and The Story of Ruth, a great movie with a great stereo track. And from Columbia I would love Torch Song Trilogy.

  44. TT seems to be scraping the bottom of the barrel. I do not see good coming from this going forward. The days of A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS, OLIVER! and other top-tier titles appears to be ending. This is too bad, because I have loved and supported TT from Day One. They need new licensing deals, I think.

  45. Dick

    TT seems to be scraping the bottom of the barrel. I do not see good coming from this going forward. The days of A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS, OLIVER! and other top-tier titles appears to be ending. This is too bad, because I have loved and supported TT from Day One. They need new licensing deals, I think.

    If what they are releasing is "bottom of the barrel", please give me more of it! Recent offerings like No Down Payment, My Sister Eileen, Revolt Of Mamie Stover, Blue Denim, Hilda Crane and My Gal Sal have been on my wish list for years and to have my wishes granted when I truly suspected I'd never see them on blu ray in my lifetime is a joy! We need boutique labels like Twilight Time (and Kino Lorber and Criterion) to release these neglected gems. Someone not long ago complained the Warners Archives were also scraping the bottom of the barrel with releases like The Green Slime and The Black Scorpion instead of their Joan Crawford classics. People need to realize that there's more to cinema than Oscar anointed movies and Joan Crawford 🙂 and some of us appreciate those neglected "out of left field" pearls that see the light of day.

    You GO, Twilight Time, you're doing just fine!

  46. Worth

    I think Ryan's Daughter is a good film, but one of Lean's lesser works. It's very scale and scope seem to work against the story somehow. But I think it's poor reception had less to do with the quality of the film and more to do with the fact that it was very much out of sync with the times when it was released.

    I always thought "Ryan's Daughter" was a great 2 hour film…unfortunately stretched to 3 1/2 hours. That said, if WAC puts it out on Blu, I'll be buying it

  47. Thomas T

    If what they are releasing is "bottom of the barrel", please give me more of it! Recent offerings like No Down Payment, My Sister Eileen, Revolt Of Mamie Stover, Blue Denim, Hilda Crane and My Gal Sal have been on my wish list for years and to have my wishes granted when I truly suspected I'd never see them on blu ray in my lifetime is a joy! We need boutique labels like Twilight Time (and Kino Lorber and Criterion) to release these neglected gems. Someone not long ago complained the Warners Archives were also scraping the bottom of the barrel with releases like The Green Slime and The Black Scorpion instead of their Joan Crawford classics. People need to realize that there's more to cinema than Oscar anointed movies and Joan Crawford 🙂 and some of us appreciate those neglected "out of left field" pearls that see the light of day.

    You GO, Twilight Time, you're doing just fine!

    Attaboy Thomas! I agree completely. (Not sure what happened to Dick there, he's not usually so grumpy).

    Mind you, your own patience might be stretched soon because a film which you in your CinemascopeCat guise criticised, Sunday In The Country with Ernest Borgnine at his most primitive, is coming out soon on Blu-ray disc in the U. K.

  48. In defence of Leonard Maltin, he makes it quite clear in the into to his guides that there is a staff of reviewers who contribute to the book. He can't possibly see everything listed in the book. True, his tastes tend to be more classical than avant-garde, but knowing his preferences can be a valuable guide to relating the book's ratings to our personal tastes. That's why it's called a guide.

    And he's hardly the only one who hated Blade Runner on the original release; I was one of many who wanted the Harrison Ford we had just seen in Star Wars, and we didn't get it. He has since revised his rating upward, but not to the masterpiece level others would prefer.

  49. Robin9

    Attaboy Thomas! I agree completely. (Not sure what happened to Dick there, he's not usually so grumpy).

    Mind you, your own patience might be stretched soon because a film which you in your CinemascopeCat guise criticised, Sunday In The Country with Ernest Borgnine at his most primitive, is coming out soon on Blu-ray disc in the U. K.

    Glad to see I'm not alone in my appreciation, Robin. But regarding Sunday In The Country I think you have me confused with someone else as I've never seen the Borgnine film. Was it released under another title? I did talk about A Sunday In The Country but that was the 1984 Bertrand Tavernier film (Un Dimanche A La Campagne) which I quite liked. 🙂

  50. Thomas T

    If what they are releasing is "bottom of the barrel", please give me more of it! Recent offerings like No Down Payment, My Sister Eileen, Revolt Of Mamie Stover, Blue Denim, Hilda Crane and My Gal Sal have been on my wish list for years and to have my wishes granted when I truly suspected I'd never see them on blu ray in my lifetime is a joy! We need boutique labels like Twilight Time (and Kino Lorber and Criterion) to release these neglected gems. Someone not long ago complained the Warners Archives were also scraping the bottom of the barrel with releases like The Green Slime and The Black Scorpion instead of their Joan Crawford classics. People need to realize that there's more to cinema than Oscar anointed movies and Joan Crawford 🙂 and some of us appreciate those neglected "out of left field" pearls that see the light of day.

    You GO, Twilight Time, you're doing just fine!

    Yeah, that post was really pretty boorish. I've always been a huge supporter of TT, and will continue to be. Apologies for my remarks. And I hope Nick is doing well.

  51. Thomas T

    Glad to see I'm not alone in my appreciation, Robin. But regarding Sunday In The Country I think you have me confused with someone else as I've never seen the Borgnine film. Was it released under another title? I did talk about A Sunday In The Country but that was the 1984 Bertrand Tavernier film (Un Dimanche A La Campagne) which I quite liked. 🙂

    Either I lost my marbles yesterday or I've lost them today. The film is also known as Blood For Blood and I'm sure I saw a review by Cinemascope Cat about this on Amazon, but I can't find it again today! So, if I got that all wrong, my apologies.

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  52. I’m not sure what other historical epics TT still has access to but those are always first day purchases for me. The Egyptian, Demetrius and the Gladiators, Alexander the Great, Solomon and Sheba (am I forgetting any?) have all been wonderful. The Egyptian is one of the most beautiful transfers I’ve ever seen.

  53. Thomas T

    If what they are releasing is "bottom of the barrel", please give me more of it! Recent offerings like No Down Payment, My Sister Eileen, Revolt Of Mamie Stover, Blue Denim, Hilda Crane and My Gal Sal have been on my wish list for years and to have my wishes granted when I truly suspected I'd never see them on blu ray in my lifetime is a joy! We need boutique labels like Twilight Time (and Kino Lorber and Criterion) to release these neglected gems. Someone not long ago complained the Warners Archives were also scraping the bottom of the barrel with releases like The Green Slime and The Black Scorpion instead of their Joan Crawford classics.

    Simple answer: That's because genre titles sell on blu ray. I'll bet Green Slime and Black Scorpion would outsell most any non-genre Joan Crawford title; once you factor in Joan's own genre titles (for William Castle, et al.), that tide would change.

    By the same token, if TT ever gets a 3D master of Gorilla at Large (fingers crossed), I'd bet that blu ray would sell more discs (maybe many more) than any of the TT titles you list above.

  54. Camps

    Simple answer: That's because genre titles sell on blu ray. I'll bet Green Slime and Black Scorpion would outsell most any non-genre Joan Crawford title; once you factor in Joan's own genre titles (for William Castle, et al.), that tide would change.

    By the same token, if TT ever gets a 3D master of Gorilla at Large (fingers crossed), I'd bet that blu ray would sell more discs (maybe many more) than any of the TT titles you list above.

    Her psycho biddy movies aside (thank you, Mill Creek :)) of course, Green Slime and Black Scorpion would outsell Crawford's "classics". And I'm sure Gorilla At Large would be a huge seller for TT. My point was that those who denigrate films like Scorpion, Slime and Gorilla as beneath TT's or the Warner Archives assumed standards 1) don't realize that those are the money makers that make it possible for the release of Oscar anointed films or Joan Crawford "classics" to get released 2) that many of us have an appetite for MORE than the Oscar anointed sacred cows. Frankly, if TT made a deal with Paramount, I would get more excited over the release of The Joker Is Wild and Lucy Gallant than releases of Ordinary People and Reds.

  55. Thomas T

    Frankly, if TT made a deal with Paramount, I would get more excited over the release of The Joker Is Wild and Lucy Gallant than releases of Ordinary People and Reds.

    So would I! I very much want to see The Joker Is Wild again. I never want to see Reds again

  56. Thomas T

    Her psycho biddy movies aside (thank you, Mill Creek :)) of course, Green Slime and Black Scorpion would outsell Crawford's "classics". And I'm sure Gorilla At Large would be a huge seller for TT. My point was that those who denigrate films like Scorpion, Slime and Gorilla as beneath TT's or the Warner Archives assumed standards 1) don't realize that those are the money makers that make it possible for the release of Oscar anointed films or Joan Crawford "classics" to get released 2) that many of us have an appetite for MORE than the Oscar anointed sacred cows.

    Heartily agreed. :thumbs-up-smiley:

  57. Given that REDS has been on Blu-ray since 2009, I'm not sure there'd be a groundswell of interest in a reissue. But ORDINARY PEOPLE has never been on Blu-ray, and would be warmly received. Alas, all of this discussion is academic, as these and other Paramount titles that are hotly desired for whatever reason are pretty much mothballed.

  58. Each month TT has something of interest to me; there are still so many gems that await from Columbia and Fox. I hope to get releases of Star; Lord Jim; Mackenna’s Gold and The Victors.
    I readily accept that one persons gem is another’s dross but I believe TT have done a great job of releasing a wide range of titles.
    I look forward to today’s announcements

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