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Discussion in 'Photography' started by Patrick Sun, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. JohnRice

    JohnRice Executive Producer

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    I don't know what Sam is talking about, but you can totally use that flash. At the minimum you need a wired connection, but much better to use a wireless trigger. Some of those are very expensive, but there are pretty cheap ones too that work great. I have one I'm very happy with, but I'll need to look it up. There are ones that also take advantage of your Canon's E-TTL, but I'm mot sure how reliable that is with this use.

    If you want to dive into it more, Yongnuo has some really awesome flash gear. With the more basic ones, you can trigger and adjust the output of multiple flashes from the camera, and I think they now also have ones that incorporate E-TTL.

    One problem is, I had to laugh at the comment in that video that two speedlights are "almost as powerful as studio strobes." Not... even... close. Competing with daylight with these little portable setups won't be easy. So don't expect to do miracles. Functionally, there is nothing different about those MagBox items than a dozen other kinds available. They've just designed them to be smoother to work with. And they do look like they're nicely designed, but as far as what they can do, they are not remotely anything new.
     
  2. JohnRice

    JohnRice Executive Producer

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    BTW, you can add a PC to your flash for about $3. You'll need one on the camera as well, another $3. Then a cable to connect them, but the wireless trigger I have didn't cost all that much.

    EDIT: HERE is the Canon version of the wireless flash trigger I have. Works great for $30. If you did a multiple flash setup, you'd need more than two units. On Nikon it also can be used as a wireless shutter release. It's never failed to work for me.
     
  3. Cameron Yee

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    I have the YN 602 and they have worked well for my limited uses. I may upgrade though, because I like the dual purpose receive/transmit capability vs. having a designated transmitter and designated receiver.

    If you really want/need to go the wired route, these adapters are handy just to provide a more robust and more readily available connection and cable than the PC sync cord. http://a.co/cNzLZdI
     
  4. JohnRice

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    Yeah, if you go PC, I highly recommend threaded connectors, like the one Cameron linked. Make sure the cable is threaded as well.
     
  5. Mike Frezon

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    Tell me if there's a reason why I should want to go PC rather than wireless, because wireless sure seems like the best way to go.

    The devices that John linked-to look terrific. But there's some question based on the (always frustrating) Amazon "Q & As" if they work with the Canon EOS Rebel XS. I'll do some more research to see if they'll work with my camera (right now I'm leaning towards a "yes.").

    So if I want to shoot using my camera and two flash units...I would need two sets of two of those devices, plus two flash stands and maybe some umbrellas and/or those cool "mag" softbox set-ups. Is that right?
     
  6. JohnRice

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    Mike, keep in mind that you'll probably use the flashes in manual. I admit I haven't tried it, but I'm skeptical about how well TTL will work in those situations. So, you have to adjust the output of the flash from the flash, which is where the Yongnuo system comes in, because you get a controller that triggers and adjusts the output of the flashes from the camera. Their big speedlights are only $60 for the full manual ones, and I think the ones that also have TTL are about $80.

    There's a possibility your camera might not close the basic flash connection on the hot shoe if it doesn't sense a flash being used, but I kind of doubt it. Still, it is possible, which would mean this stuff might not all work.
     
  7. Mike Frezon

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    Thanks to you all for the input. I'll be doing some research.

    I've been wanting to suss out this flash situation for a while and those "Mag" gizmos might get me started thinking seriously about it.
     
  8. Sam Posten

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    OK, I should have been way more clear above. I answered the question correctly but didn't handle the -intent-.

    Your flash does not have a PC sync trigger built in. as others have noted you can add that via a shoe mount, you can add on wireless adapters, you can even make it work in response to other flashes going off. I don't have the Yongnuos so you are on your own there.

    If you go the wireless route, I recommend Pocket Wizards. They are expensive because they are worth it. They are just triggers tho, they do not set flash output. I prefer that.

    I have no idea what camera you have so no idea if it has a pc sync port.

    Anyway, it's a whole rabbit hole from there.

    My own new GAS item:
    http://philipbloom.net/blog/djironin-s/
     
  9. ManW_TheUncool

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    Hey, Mike.

    Did you ever figure out your flash situation?

    I have an old Canon 420ex ETTL speedlight that's been collecting dust -- only used it for a couple years back before I switched from an old Canon Powershot G3 to Nikon DSLRs (starting w/ the D70). It's probably a bit lower powered (w/ guide number at 138?) than your Opteka EF600DG, but it should be wirelessly triggerable (as slave flash) by Canon compatible triggers AFAIK.

    I'd gladly give it to you for free if you want -- and I can include a matching Stofen Omnibounce I think. Not sure though if it'll be useful for what you're looking to do, especially since I have no easy way to test out all its functionalities now -- I can probably only test fire it manually at full power since I no longer have any other Canon stuff.

    Let me know if interested.

    _Man_
     
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    You've got PM, Man!
     
  11. ManW_TheUncool

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    So Sam, do you have the RRS rig mentioned here?

    https://www.slrlounge.com/the-best-tripods-according-to-slr-lounge/

    Kinda creepy weird this article sprang up at the top of my Google Now list this morning and includes the Manfrotto video rig I just ordered on major bargain (like almost half) price the other day -- should arrive tomorrow. Had another chance a little while back, but didn't pull the trigger in time.

    Wonder if Google's now not only trying to get us to buy stuff, but also trying to get us to keep our purchases and not have buyer's remorse (too soon), LOL...

    _Man_
     
  12. Sam Posten

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    I saw that deal, it's a good one. No I don't have RRS legs, just heads. I have:
    Manfrotto Carbon fiber
    Manfrotto heavier steel
    Manfrotto heavy duty with video camera sized fluid head

    assorted table top tripods including a Joby Gorillapod

    Platypod and platypod Pro
     
  13. Scott Merryfield

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    So, I guess it's safe to say you like Manfrotto legs? ;)

    I owned one set of less expensive Manfrotto legs, but they came with an integrated Manfrotto head. I disliked the head and release plate so much that I never really looked at their legs-only solutions when I upgraded to something better. My current legs are carbon fiber from Feisol, paired with a Photo Clam head. I also have an Induro carbon fiber monopod with a Manfrotto monopod tilt head, but it has a Kirk Arca-Swiss compatible clamp (B&H used to sell this head combo as a kit).

    I have always coveted a RRS setup, but I just do not use my tripod enough to invest that much money into their products.
     
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    Scott,

    I also use Feisol carbon fiber for my still photo legs (paired w/ a Giottos MH3300 ballhead)... also for monopod as well (w/ a Manfrotto tilt head) -- I did previously own a Manfrotto carbon fiber monopod a long while back, but lost it.

    This Manfrotto rig purchase was primarily for video use... although that article seems to claim it works well for stills as well. IF that Nitrotech head really does well for stills, I might consider swapping the legs to make it lighter for duo purpose (although I'll probably lose the video-oriented bowl config unless I get new legs for that). But for video, I probably won't care much about the travel weight.

    I might try getting a arca-swiss style QR adapter for the Nitrotech head -- I saw one or two suggestions for that. IF that works out, I'll probably finally switch all my QR needs to arca-swiss (from old Manfrotto one I'd been using).

    _Man_
     
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    Man,

    I definitely prefer the arca-swiss QR system to Manfrotto's. It's so much easier for me to use, plus there are more accessories for the AS system. I bought a Kirk tripod foot for my Canon EF 100-400mm Mark II that has an integrated AS connection to replace the tripod foot that came with that lens. It makes for a much smoother connection between the lens and tripod or monopod, as there is never any worry about the mounting plate coming loose and twisting.
     
  16. Patrick Sun

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    I forgot to update this thread with a new lens acquisition near Halloween, picked up a slightly used Sigma ART 85mm F/1.4 lens from a local tog I met recently. The price was too good not to pick it up. Upgraded from the older Sigma non-Art 85mm lens, which did me well for a good 4-5 years, but it was time for some new glass. So the new lens is much larger and heavier than the older one, so there's been a bit of adjustment in handling the body/lens when shooting, but so far, so good.
     
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    Daughter begged Santa for the Rebel T6 bundle so he brought it. Will be curious if she latches on to this kind of photography or goes back to the teen method of iPhone photos only.
     

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