Apple TV+ You owe it to yourself to watch DISCLAIMER (1 Viewer)

[Ronald Epstein]

This is a series that could easily be overlooked. I had no idea it existed on AppleTV+ until my girlfriend urged me to watch it.

Her selling point: "It's only seven episodes, easy to get through, and Kevin Kline's performance is outstanding."


I was hooked from the first episode and easily finished it within two days. And you know what? I found DISCLAIMER a masterpiece and one of the best shows I have seen all year.

I don't want to talk about the story as I think it best that the viewer goes into this blindly. Stick with the first two episodes, as the storytelling is purposely disjointed. What I will warn you, however, is that this show contains the most sexually explicit material that has ever aired on Apple TV+ (which is warned about at the top of each episode).

This is a great series for anyone watching with Dolby Atmos. The sound mix is exceedingly good.


WARNING: SPOILERS IN REPLIES BELOW. PLEASE DO NOT READ BEFORE WATCHING

 

[Joe Wong]

Agreed, Ron!

I was going to initiate a thread but glad you beat me to it.

Sarah and I have been watching from the opening week and finished it last Friday.

Overall, a very compelling story, with a couple of logical inconsistencies (for dramatic effect, I'm sure!), and top notch acting from Oscar winners Cate Blanchett and Kevin Kline.

Spoiler

I love how my perspective of Cate and Kevin's characters change over the course of the show.

Initially, I felt sympathy for Kevin, and some hatred for Cate... but as Kevin's schemes get more nasty, even before the truth is revealed, I felt more sympathy for what Cate is going through, and disagreed with Kevin's methods and the lengths he goes to. Glad to see he finally accepted the truth.

One more scene I would have liked: Kevin's son's girlfriend's family confirming what an abuser the son is.

The main logical inconsistency related to the final act for Kevin's character: going to the hospital to kill Cate's son. Why didn't Cate call the hospital with a warning?

 

[Ronald Epstein]

Joe,

I was so happy to see that you, of all people, responded and confirmed my love for this series.

And, regarding your spoilers, agree on all points.


I, too, wondered why Cate didn't call the hospital to warn that Kevin Kline was on his way there

The truth of this series was in front of us the entire time. We, as the audience, took that book, The Perfect Stranger, as the truth of the situation when it was concocted from a few bedroom photos and a police report. I even questioned myself a few times as to how Kevin's dying wife could have known exactly what occurred.

 

[JPCinema]

I disliked Blanchett's character at the beginning and despised her at the end. She destroyed so many lives by not telling the truth at the beginning.

 

[Joe Wong]

I disliked Blanchett's character at the beginning and despised her at the end. She destroyed so many lives by not telling the truth at the beginning.

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I think she was trying to tell her husband, but he was so blinded by his jealousy he would have none of it.

And then she was trying to reason with or explain to Kevin ("You've won"), but he hid from her when she first visited his house.

Remember, it was a traumatic episode in her life that's suddenly resurfaced... and she's portrayed as the "evil" one!

 

[Wayne Klein]

I found the sex unnecessary in really telling the story (no, I'm not a prude) and it went on too long in the film. It felt like it was done just because they could do it. Blanchett's character was soooo unlikeable (which made sense) and came across as selfish and privileged. I felt for Kline's character and Cohen's character early on. Overall, it was quite good but not a show that one will (for me at least) watch again.

 

[Ronald Epstein]

I found the sex unnecessary in really telling the story (no, I'm not a prude) and it went on too long in the film. It felt like it was done just because they could do it. Blanchett's character was soooo unlikeable (which made sense) and came across as selfish and privileged. I felt for Kline's character and Cohen's character early on. Overall, it was quite good but not a show that one will (for me at least) watch again.

At first, I thought the sex was unnecessary.

I have changed my mind since.

Spoiler: SPOILER

I think the sex needed to be exaggerated. It was the act that drove the lie. It was an act concocted by Kline's wife, based on a few photos, and amplified in the book to evoke hatred toward Cate Blanche's character and sympathy toward the boy.

Sex was also the driving force behind Cate's husband's emasculation and all the feelings that followed.

I believe those scenes had to be emphasized to drive the narrative and the truth that is eventually revealed.

 

[Greg.K]

We correctly guessed what the twist would be pretty early on. Apple's own viewer discretion disclaimer at the beginning of each episode was a pretty strong hint.

 

[Wayne Klein]

At first, I thought the sex was unnecessary.

I have changed my mind since.

Spoiler: SPOILER

I think the sex needed to be exaggerated. It was the act that drove the lie. It was an act concocted by Kline's wife, based on a few photos, and amplified in the book to evoke hatred toward Cate Blanche's character and sympathy toward the boy.

Sex was also the driving force behind Cate's husband's emasculation and all the feelings that followed.

I believe those scenes had to be emphasized to drive the narrative and the truth that is eventually revealed.

i had not thought of that.

 

[Ronald Epstein]

We correctly guessed what the twist would be pretty early on. Apple's own viewer discretion disclaimer at the beginning of each episode was a pretty strong hint.

Yes, that would be a huge hint of what is to come.

I found a huge flaw in the story:

Spoiler: SPOILER

When Kevin Kline's character goes to the morgue. He questions the cross-cut pattern on his dead son's arm. It is quickly dismissed by an autopsy technician.

When Kate Blanchett finally tells her side of the story at the kitchen table in his home, she reveals the reason behind his cut. This would be something only SHE knows, Kline would identify with and would prove her story is truthful. Yet, Kline overlooks this, claiming her story to be a lie.

 

[jayembee]

So, I just watched the first episode of this. Excellent, compelling drama.

I would've watched more, but there seems to be something wonky with our A+ account; I still got to watch Ep#1 free.

My wife deals with the streaming accounts, so we'll fix things during the day. I want to finish this, and even more want to be able to start watching S2 of Silo on Friday.

 

[Ronald Epstein]

So, I just watched the first episode of this. Excellent, compelling drama.

I would've watched more, but there seems to be something wonky with our A+ account; I still got to watch Ep#1 free.

My wife deals with the streaming accounts, so we'll fix things during the day. I want to finish this, and even more want to be able to start watching S2 of Silo on Friday.

Is SILO worth watching? I am about to start a new show. It was going to be FROM (from the people that did LOST), but I could be persuaded to watch something else.

 

[jayembee]

Silo is terrific. The only downside is that Harriet Walter has too small a role.

 

[Josh Dial]

Is SILO worth watching? I am about to start a new show. It was going to be FROM (from the people that did LOST), but I could be persuaded to watch something else.

I don't think From is made by Abrams/Cuse/Lindelof or anyone else connected with LOST. I think the Russo Brothers' studio produces it in part, though. I have heard great things about it!

Silo is top tier.

 

[Ronald Epstein]

I don't think From is made by Abrams/Cuse/Lindelof or anyone else connected with LOST. I think the Russo Brothers' studio produces it in part, though. I have heard great things about it!

Silo is top tier.

I got this from a Google Search:

Two of the executive producers of "Lost," Jack Bender and Jeff Pinkner, are reuniting with Harold Perrineau — who played the castaway Michael on the show — for the new Epix series, "From."


Will be starting Silo in a few days. Thanks for the recommendation

 

[Greg.K]

Silo is great. Looking forward to season 2.

Yes, that would be a huge hint of what is to come.

I found a huge flaw in the story:

Spoiler: SPOILER

When Kevin Kline's character goes to the morgue. He questions the cross-cut pattern on his dead son's arm. It is quickly dismissed by an autopsy technician.

When Kate Blanchett finally tells her side of the story at the kitchen table in his home, she reveals the reason behind his cut. This would be something only SHE knows, Kline would identify with and would prove her story is truthful. Yet, Kline overlooks this, claiming her story to be a lie.

Regarding your spoiler,

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Perhaps that is one of the things that ultimately clicked with him to make him realize she was telling the truth. I found his abrupt change from murderous psychopath to apologetic a bit too unconvincing based on what we see.

 

[jayembee]

I got this from a Google Search:

Two of the executive producers of "Lost," Jack Bender and Jeff Pinkner, are reuniting with Harold Perrineau — who played the castaway Michael on the show — for the new Epix series, "From."


Will be starting Silo in a few days. Thanks for the recommendation

Marketing people tend to try to associate a new project with something popular from the past to get people interested. With all respect to Harold Perrineau (I most strongly associate him with the HBO series Oz rather than with Lost) he was just one actor from an ensemble cast (and, if memory serves, was the first relatively major character to be written out of Lost). Those two producers have worked on some good shows -- including Lost -- but they certainly aren't ones who come to mind when thinking about those shows.

 

[Mark Mayes]

The sex was NOT gratuitous. It helped the audience understand the initial frustrations beautifully, because it's easy to get carried away with nature over reason. Maybe I'm just too young...
I have been hauntes by this series, even though I wasn't initially impressed at the end by the writing, but it grew.on me over a few days.

 

[Ronald Epstein]

Marketing people tend to try to associate a new project with something popular from the past to get people interested. With all respect to Harold Perrineau (I most strongly associate him with the HBO series Oz rather than with Lost) he was just one actor from an ensemble cast (and, if memory serves, was the first relatively major character to be written out of Lost). Those two producers have worked on some good shows -- including Lost -- but they certainly aren't ones who come to mind when thinking about those shows.

Listen, I didn't want anyone to think I pulled that information out of my arse. Whether the names are important to anyone or not, they were involved with the original show.

The sex was NOT gratuitous. It helped the audience understand the initial frustrations beautifully, because it's easy to get carried away with nature over reason. Maybe I'm just too young...
I have been hauntes by this series, even though I wasn't initially impressed at the end by the writing, but it grew.on me over a few days.

Agreed!