Yamaha's Response is even better than Onkyo :)

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  1. Kevin Parker

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    After a week they replied:
    We are sorry for not responding sooner. Please call our Customer support line directly for answers to your questions. You can reach us Monday through Friday, 8a-4p Pacific Time at 1-800-292-2982. If you feel that your question can be answered by one of our many FAQ's, please click on the following link to our FAQ page: http://www.yamaha.com/yec/customer/faqhead.html-ssi
    what can I say except grrrrreatttttt [​IMG]
     
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    My email:

    Hi,
    I am interested in buying Yamaha A/V receiver RX-V630, and I almost bought it, then I see all those reviews about it that claiming that this receiver puts out only 27w per channel while all the channels are in use. They claim that they tested this receiver in their lab.

    I am just wondering that is it true? yamaha rated this receiver 75x6. So how it is possible that its putting out only 27W? Can you please explain it, so I can feel free to buy this receiver or otherwise.

    Sincerely,
    Kevin
     
  3. Nick V

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    Maybe if you would have used spell-check they would have given you an honest reply.[​IMG] (joking)
    That is a very weak response, and it seems to me that they aren't going to try really hard to keep your sale.
    Also, just wondering what the RXV-1200 is rated, for all channels driven??
     
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    The RXV-1200 is rated at 50w per channel simultaneously driven. Not so bad given that it's only 80w but still, this line is a bit more upmarket than the rx-v830 and below...

    T.
     
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    This seems to be a generic response,generated by a computer,bravo!
     
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    So Kevin, planning on giving Yamaha a call? [​IMG]
    I have a feeling their sales staff isn't trained to deal with well informed customers like ourselves. [​IMG]
    - Mike
     
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    do you think would it be worth it to call them??
     
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    Kevin,
    Would it be worth it? Might be worth a good laugh. [​IMG] We already know what they'll say. If anything it will let them know that people are starting to educate themselves and they won't be able to fool us all quite so easily. Okay, I'm being optimistic if not foolish, but what the heck!
    - Mike
     
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    ok then I will call them on monday, what the heck [​IMG]
     
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    >I almost bought it, then I see all those reviews about it that claiming that this receiver puts out only 27w<
    Was this review in Sound & Vision?

    Bob
     
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    Bob,

    No, I had it tested in a lab in NJ along with the Onyko 600, and the Pioneer 811s.

    600 = 34w 5-channels
    5560 (630) = 27w 6-channels
    811s = 74W 6 - channels

    I am waiting to test the Denon 1803 which I believe will be a loaded unit. I was told it will be like the 2802 with even more features at an MSRP for $499.
     
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    Bob,

    If you like the way any of these sound and you have speakers that are rated 10 to 20 minimum watts you will be fine.

    !!!!!!!!!Enjoy a unit but match the speakers!!!!!!!
     
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    Norman:

    Are you looking for a new receiver now because the Onkyo damaged your B&W's or has the all-channels driven wattage thing become a pet project?

    Regardless, thanks for the information. Its making me hesitate to jump on the RXV-630.

    One of my local dealers carries Kenwood, Pioneer, Yamaha, Marantz, and NAD. I plan to do a little comparison listening. Unfortunately they won't have the Pioneer 811s for a couple of months.

    Are you planning on doing any more testing of receivers other than the Denon when it arrives?


    Jeff
     
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    And now you guys see why I bought a Yamaha DSP-A1. Its rated at 110W x 5 and was tested at 116W X 5!!!!!
    Mike
     
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    I got the same generic response when I emailed about:
    1) Will they ever do a pre/pro?
    2) When will they change their receiver's firmware/software to allow variable crossovers?
    Now, I would also add:
    3) When will bass management for the 5.1 analog input be added to their receiver line?
    Or even,
    4) When will the DACs be upgraded to 24/196? (The 1200, 2200, and 3200 are all 24/96 at the moment.)
     
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    Jeff,

    I bought the Denon 2802 and fixed my speakers.
    I am looking for a receiver for my masterbedroom, low end.
    Will wait for the 1803 and check it out.
    Norman
     
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    After reading about the low tested wattage of the RX-V630, I decided to fire off a question to Yamaha's Canadian web site. The response was most interesting. Here is my original message:

    I have recently purchased a Yamaha RXV-630. Based on information from this web site, my dealer, and Yamaha's US and international web sites I was led to believe that this was a 75Wx6 receiver. I am concerned about numerous reports that this receiver only tests at 27Wx6! I almost expect this sort of deceptive advertising from some companies, but Yamaha has always had a good reputation for honestly reporting their products capabilities. Are these reports in error, or is your advertising false? I look forward to getting your response via e-mail.
    Thank you

    And here is the response:
    Dear Mathias
    I sure would like to see these reports that say we are only 27 watts x 6 In fact in all cases if you were to test our products on the bench with a scope you will find our specs to be quite conservative. If you could email me this information maybe we can clear up this misconception.
    Sincerely Yours
    Daniel Dame

    Is there any published report of this 27W spec. The RX-V630 isn't on the list from S&V, so I think we only have info from this (and other) forums. While I respect that, I would like something to send back to Yamaha in my reply.

    Of course, this is all academic. I love my 630, the sound is great for both movies and music, and it is plenty loud. I just don't like the misinformation.
     
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    Mathias,
     

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