Michael, the dongle method has promise. An R2 PAL to NTSC second player isn't all that bad of an idea. Have you confirmed this yourself or someone you trust?
You can only plug in 1 dongle. Anyone who says they've plugged in 2 and had it work is lying. Once you choose a region, it's hard locked to that region
So, if I've not plugged any dongles (I have two stand-alone DVD players, a PC DVD player, and the remote for the PS2, so I didn't need the X-Box player), I could buy a Region 2 Dongle, and make it a Region 2 Player?
Although being European, i have the US XBox. A friend of mine brought his US R1 DVD dongle to me yesterday. We don't have a R2 dongle, but all the dongle does should be related to 'region codes' and not 'video formats' like NTSC and PAL.
The motivation behind our test was to see how the 'NTSC' US XBox handles 'PAL' DVDs (regardless of the region code issue). Since we didn't have non-R1 capability, we had to organize PAL R0 (codefree) DVDs, which should have and did play fine on the US box.
The problem, as i expected, was that the output was not PAL for those PAL discs. The US box converted it normal NTSC, which resulted in a jerky mess in pans.
Since we didn't find any options to change between different output modes (like PAL, NTSC-50, NTSC-60, etc.) our experiment ended right there.
So the problem is not merely 'region code' problem, but also an 'video format' problem.
This isn't really surprising me, though. DVD players and such from the US have almost always been NTSC only, while their european siblings were multiformat (PAL, NTSC). Making an US DVD player 'region code free' usually results in a player that can play R1-NTSC (US) and R2-NTSC (Japan), but not european R2-PAL or australian R4-PAL DVDs, simply because the unit can then play all 'regions' (R1-R6), but NOT PAL.
Anyone actually gotten a PAL signal out of their US Box.
The next test would be if a PAL US Box actually outputs NTSC with US DVDs or at least PAL-60 (judderfree).
Bjoren,
Could it be that along with the Region coding it instructs it to lock to NTSC output (and PAL/NTSC conversion) ?
WHy not wait until you have an R2 dongle to play with before reaching a conclusion in your little experiment
Oh, good point, Jeff. That could be possible, although i rather doubt it. But you are right, we should try a R2 dongle on a NTSC box before we jump to conclusions. Problem is, i don't know anyone here who has interest in the european XBox, let alone that dongle. We all already have NTSC boxen.
I have a US Xbox and I am living in Japan. Every time I go to a DVD store here (Japan) and ask the storekeeper if I can watch Japanese DVD's on my US Xbox, I get a "no, sorry." I hope someone can help me to find a way to purchase and watch DVD's in Japan on my US Xbox. This region coding is really frustrating. THe only other option I have is to have friends mail me DVD's from the States. Help anyone?
Go to Akihabara and pick up a region free player (Assuming you're in Tokyo, every city has an electronics Mecca in Japan tho)
Otherwise you just have to wait for someone to crack the region coding.
Is DVDRegionX out in the US yet? They are selling it on Amazon.co.uk for European Xboxen. Has anyone seen it shipping for US systems yet? I keep checking lik-sang and they don't have it yet...
I am living in Tokyo, yes. Maybe I will try this experiment as well by purchasing a Japanese Xbox dongle (R-2 I assume)and then plug it into my US Xbox. I already have a US dongle, so I guess I would have to unplug that first. I don't know if this will work and I don't want to blow about $30 if it doesn't.
Jeff & Michael, are you sure that the Xbox region is locked once you plug your first dongle in? Do you have any other sources that confirm this?
Thanks for the other suggestions, but I don't think that I can buy a Japanese PS2 without my fiance getting pissed off and I don't want to have to spend more money on a region free DVD player.
I have a theoretical question. If the all Xbox's are the same, and it only changes when you plug in the dongle, then the Xbox should able to play games from other regions. I have heard that the Xbox can not play games from other regions, so there must be something inside the intital hardware. If it is in the hardware already, then there probably would be no need for this "region stamping" thing. Maybe buying a different region dongle would work then. Why are you guys so sure that it would not work and that there is this stamping thing?