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Patrick Sun

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Was that Robert Patrick's real wife, Barb Patrick, who played Barbara Doggett, the ex-wife?
The whole "Sixth Sense" angle was sort of lame, that character was more than disturbing the way he's look at you, or hunch his shoulders.
So Brad's a dirty cop/agent. Wonder what made him think it was worth the risk to kill the guy with the threat of the story/video being sent to the newspaper?
At least Doggett was satisfied that he knows what went down, and his son was just collateral damage.
Next episode does seem like a hoot. Maybe Greg Brady or Bud Bundy will hit on Scully. :)
 

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Ok, I enjoyed this episode, but I've enjoyed Reyes and Doggett since they've come on board. But here's my problem: With only three episodes left, shouldn't Chris Carter be dealing more with wrapping up Mulder's abduction / alien conspiracy stuff? It just seems kind of a waste to have three weeks to wrap this series up and one week is used on Doggett's son and next week will be used on the Brady Bunch. So basically the entire series will get wrapped up in a two hour finale. Seems like a missed opportunity, but we shall see.

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So Brad's a dirty cop/agent. Wonder what made him think it was worth the risk to kill the guy with the threat of the story/video being sent to the newspaper?
Perhaps it occurred to him that he was getting payed off by a serial killer and child murderer that he previously thought was just a gangster.
The intuitive schizo guy seemed to be from a long continuum of actors who are directed to put their head down and look up at the camera with their eyes. Most of them are going for "creepy", but for some reason, George Clooney on ER was going for "flirty". :)
This was one of the better episodes this season and was a much more satisfying way of achieving some kind of "closure" for Doggett's loss of his son than the new-agey "I see dead kids" episode from mid-season 7 that was supposed to provide Mulder with "Closure" (the episode's actual title) w.r.t. Samantha. That episode also featured an intuitive character who loses credibility when it is revealed that he was previously institutionalized for Schizophrenia.
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I watched the episode but when that mob guy went into his rant, I was left confused. Could someone explain what he said to Dogett please?
 

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Zen Butler wrote:
professional said:
I agree, the Follmer character acted out of disgust; an association with gangsterism is one thing, one with pedophilia a whole 'nother thing. Besides, how could he be sure the mobster weren't in on the pedophiliac murder?
I guess Follmer also won't be in the movie, huh?
And didn't the "creepy-looking" schizo infiltrate the FBI a little too easily??? Well, I guess if anyone can walk into headquarters at any time of day or night, they'll let anybody in anyway, without the benefit of a thorough background check to uncover false credentials and history.
 

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It just seems kind of a waste to have three weeks to wrap this series up and one week is used on Doggett's son and next week will be used on the Brady Bunch. So basically the entire series will get wrapped up in a two hour finale. Seems like a missed opportunity, but we shall see.
Well, I predicted that this would happen. :)
My guess is that they filmed these episodes before deciding to cancel the series, all except the finale.
I only saw the last 20 minutes of this week's episode, but I think I got the gist of it.
Next week's looks really dumb. Don't know if I'll be watching or if I'll just wait for the last ep so that I can finally be done with this show and move on with my life. ;)
 

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So basically the entire series will get wrapped up in a two hour finale.
You can cover a lot of ground in a two-hour finale, especially if it's well-written (a big "if", I know). And I disagree that the "entire" series is being left to the finale. Recent episodes have eliminated a lot of loose ends that would have been hard to address in an episode focused on the main alien mythology:
  • Mulder's parentage
  • Follmer's backstory (there was always something creepy about him, but you didn't know whether it related to the conspiracy or something else)
  • the future of Baby William
  • Doggett's son
  • the future for Doggett and Reyes (the ex-wife virtually gave them her blessing to pair off)
  • perhaps most importantly, the array of messy issues left over from the early cancellation of The Lone Gunmen (those who followed the series can appreciate just how much was revealed and resolved in that last L.G. episode)
It's like the writers are paring away all the non-essential elements so that, by the time we hit the finale, we're left with just the main "supersoldier" storyline that's been doled out bit by bit for the last two seasons.
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Ever since "Kiss The Girls" Cary Elwes gives me the heebie-jeebies when he's playing a law enforcement dude.

I still contend the finale will end with Mulder getting into the shower, only to find Bobby Ewing in there already. Heh.
 

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My favorite scene last night was when Scully broke down and lamented the loss of her child, which she had despearately hoped for several years, and actually cared for almost a whole year. You know the scene, where she told her mother the reason she was putting the child up for adoption and her mother, who'd cared for the child herself whenever Scully wanted to traipse off on another adventure, didn't have her committed for it.

Oh wait...that didn't happen. That still pisses me off.

This was a fine episode except for the quick wrap up at the end with the easy confession and Follmer snapping.
 

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I got the impression that the "businessman", although a gangster, was not necessarily the gangster telling the story. Otherwise I could not see him telling Doggett.
 

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The mobster *was* the business man, because he was a cold hearted bastard who thought that merely knowing the fate of Doggett's son Luke would satisfy Doggett. He spoke in the third person, so even if it was brought to court, they couldn't prove anything. Plus, the mobster still believed he had Follmer in his pocket to prevent prosecution, not knowing he was waiting outside to kill him.

With the exception of "John Doe" this was by far the best episode all season. The acting by Cary Elwes, Robert Patrick and Jared Poe (the cadet) was spectacular. The direction, cinematography, and musical score were superb, and made the episode all the more enjoyable. This installment almost made it worth sitting through other disasters like "Scary Monsters".

Many fans have complained that these last four episodes aren't being used properly, but its really the standalones the series is best at. I'd take a thorough character study of Doggett anyday over a tepid mythology installment like "William."
 

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I have a problem with the interpretation that the business man killed Bob the Child Molester right then and there resulting in the need to kill the child. As I recall at the start of the show when John is going over the case he shows a mug shot of Bob TCM to his partner and says he was the only suspect but he was later killed in New Orleans in a car crash. I though the business man said he killed the child for seeing he associate with Bob TCM.

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I believe the child molester, Bob Harvey, actually died in a car accident a few days or weeks after the abduction of Luke. I believe this fact was referenced in last year's "Empedocles."

Since no one brought up Harvey's death, I think its considered accidental. Doggett always knew his name, but since Harvey died before anything could be proved, the case dried up without any new information.
 

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I have a problem with the interpretation that the business man killed Bob the Child Molester right then and there resulting in the need to kill the child.
The need was to kill Luke, who could identify the businessman. Bob Harvey wasn't killed, because he and the businessman were still doing business. As indicated, Harvey died in a car accident app. six years later.
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Anyone know why we're getting an abbreviated season this year? Counting the eps at the X-Files website, there appear to only be 19 episodes in this final season. I know they did a shorter season to allow for the making of the first movie, but don't know of any reason to shorten the current season?
 

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The final episode is a "twofer", so its more like a 20 episode season. That's one less than last year. Season Five was 20 episodes as well, and they haven't had more than 22 episodes since season four.

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