X-Box kiosks crashing...

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  1. Todd H

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    Well, thanks to this article, my choice is now reduced to either a PS2 or Gamecube. I was willing to give the X-Box a chance even though I knew of Microsoft's past concerning stability, but it looks like you just can't teach an old dog new tricks.
     
  2. Gary King

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    Yes....
    A couple of kiosks crash (out of thousands shipped), and it's big news.
    Never mind the fact that the kiosks are poorly ventilated, the Xbox is a machine that prefers breathing (the P3 and NV2A need space to dissipate), and the kiosks are run at least 12 hours a day. Sure, some boxes are guaranteed to be DOA (that's a rule of manufacturing), but the sky is not falling. And then there's the whole issue of unfinished software (PS2 and Gamecubes at E3 were hardly models of stability).
    PS2 kiosks crashed quite a bit, too, for the same reasons. In fact, lots of original Playstations (1000 series) would overheat if placed on carpet and played for more than a couple of hours in a stretch.
    The Gaming Age article doesn't even really begin to qualify as a story... let alone a story worth reporting.
    [Edited last by Gary King on October 23, 2001 at 09:43 PM]
     
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    I think I'm going to take Gary's side on this one. That article is complete BS. If that sad excuse of a news article changed your mind about the Xbox I don't think you were truly serious about it in the first place. Try covering the side of a game cube and see what happens [​IMG]
    The media is jumping on every little shred of bad news they could possibly manipulate into a story. Last one was the "launch shortage" and the one before that was the "hardware problems with the mother board". when are these people going to bring some REAL news to the table. Oh and name one piece of HARDWARE that was released by MS that every unit was DOA out of the box.
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    I wouldn't read too much into this news. The systems will be fine. They better be or MS will be in for a big backlash from the gaming community.
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    For what it's worth, I've seen four Xbox kiosk units, and they were functioning perfectly.
    Also, Microsoft has released a statement regarding this rumor:
    "With over 10,000 playable Xbox kiosks at retail over a month before launch, there are bound to be a few issues that crop up. Microsoft representatives are currently following up with retailers across the country to insure proper functionality of kiosks. Overall, the displays are working great and we are on track to achieve our goal of having 100% of the Xbox interactive displays working correctly and demonstrating the Xbox difference."
    If there are 10, or even 100 Xboxes malfunctioning, that is still a 1% or less failure rate, and in a fairly hostile environment with pre-release software. I also heard that kiosk units do not include hard drives. This is unconfirmed, although it would explain the slow load times I experienced on the Munch demo.
    I do think it's cool that the Xbox kiosks have sound systems that include decent speakers at ear level and subwoofers that kick! The Playstation2 kiosk sound (and video) is absolutely anemic in comparison. It will be interesting to see what the GCN kiosks are like, if they have any.
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    Ok, got to hold and play with a final unit at a local store before they put it in the case.........these things are solid. I would have to say best built console that I have ever held. I remember opening the PS2 and being like, is this it??? Not with this unit, i was amazed at how well it felt holding it.....wonder what the GCN will feel like.
     
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    This is the company that brought us Windows ME, I should think that you almost can't be surprised by this. I've learned my lesson with Microsoft. Wait and see. If the X-Box is stable and has a steady stream of good games then I'll get one. Otherwise I think I'll wait.
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    If I do ever get an X-Box, I'm going to use the Microsoft rule: Wait for Service Pack 3 (or bios revision 3).
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    If the PS2 is as powerful as it is and only takes up a little amount of space, I would call that a benefit.
    The only thing with this story is that many people will be putting XBs in their HTs, which means it might not have the best ventilation, so their consoles could crap out. Even if its a few of all the consoles they have out, its still more than none, which in itself would raise a small issue for me. It won't hinder my decision to get one, but I will be pissed if it happens when I get it.
    If MS had designed it better, it wouldn't need so much ventilation. I've played my PS2 for hours at a time with it in a relatively small space and it never froze or crapped out on me (except for that badly programmed Jampack demo, but that was a software problem).
     
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    If my experience is at all typical, I'd be more concerned by the lacklaster kiosk quality (based on the kiosk at my local Circuit City).
    The only playable demo was Abe's World (whatever it's called) -- snoozer! Let's get that Halo demo going! And the video connection to the TV was horrendous. My N64 looks better than the XBox in that kiosk.
    The XBox will certainly have some great games and killer graphics, but my first experience was not positive. On the plus side, the controller didn't seem too bad.
    Of course, when I told the dept. lackey that I was waiting for the GameCube, he grabbed his XBox comparison tech sheet, to show me why the XBox kicks GCN and PS2 butt. More gig! More hertz! More poly-thingies! [​IMG]
     
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    Most people with HTs are very accustomed to providing ventilation for their equipment.
     
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    I bought a PSX on 9-9-95 (launch). The defect rate was phenominal. When my CD mech died after 4 years, I was the only person I knew who still had a 9-9-95 unit that had not already broken. I'd say at least 10% of the units they shipped at launch failed within a year and a half. A friend of mine who does electronics repair told me that the CD transport was cheaper than the cheapest discman transport he'd ever seen.
    God, don't you remember people playing their PSXs upside down, on their sides, and without cases to try to get them to work?
    Since I sold my PS2 last xmas I don't have much feedback about those, other than the vertical design is defective. It scratches discs, and not just on mine!
    [Edited last by Michael St. Clair on October 24, 2001 at 03:14 PM]
     
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    The SCPH-1000 was a pile of steaming turds.....I think we had almost ALL of our shipment come back to us at some point within that first year(this was when i was working at a particular toy store that is in malls during high school). Anyone remember the huge drought of PlayStations during the summer of 96 or 97 can't remember, but it was when they were switching from the 1000 design to the 3000 design?
     
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    Yes, the problems with the PS2 raised an issue with me, but like the XB, they didn't hinder my decision to buy it or not. They just made me aware of what could happen. Then again, there weren't as many problems with the American kiosks with the PS2 as there are with the XB ones.
     
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