WTB DVL-919 CLD-99 HLD-X9 or ld-s9 etc...newby help?

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  1. Lee_H

    Lee_H Stunt Coordinator

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    Hi there I am new to the world of laserdisc, as George Lucas forced me to recently purchase his original trilogy on CAV Definitive Collection LDs

    I purchase a faulty LD player and now wish to replace it.

    I have found out that the DVL-919 CLD-99 HLD-X9 or ld-s9 pioneer's are the ones to get, however I am not 100% on all the tech stuff.

    I have a receiver that does 6.1, and a 6.1 bose system, all runs at 24 bit 192. I was hoping to find an LD unit that used 24 DAC? if that makes a diff, and does dolby, RF, DTS etc. I don't care at all about the dvd portion, as I have 3 state of the art models of dvd players.

    I am prepared to get a RF demodulator as i think it's necessary for the 5.1 surround from ld's? (im guessing you plug the rf RCA out into the demod, and the rca from that into something in the back of my amp? i dont know which to plug it into when i get it though. I always thought like my dvd players, i could use an optical cord and the player would autodetect the 5.1 or whatever and work that way? and help is appreciated on these units.

    I guess the units with the 3d comb filtering are best pics, so cld-99 or the hld units would be great, but they seem hard to find and expensive. The dvl-919 seems like it has a great audio setup, and 3 line comb filter, which would be good i think...

    I have the option to get an elite dvl-91, but i think the sound isnt as good on it, by reading it's description. and it seems the 909 is a step down from the 919

    with these units, is it only the rf mod that matters for sound quality on my theater?

    anyways...im new here so hope im not breaking any rules, and would love some LD help from you experienced people here. Im already out hundreds of dollars on this unsatisfactory kenwood unit i bought [​IMG]

    let me know if you guys have these unites for sale....and help me decide which one to get!

    sound is very important to me, and would assume the 24 bit would be best on the 919, and if its impossible to find 3d comb filter, just the 3 line is ok.....

    thanx....

    Lee
     
  2. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

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    You should read the laserdisc section in our Beginner's FAQ (link in my signature). It's an excellent in-depth treatment of the world of LD.

    And just so you know: The CAV "Definitive Collection" does not have 5.1 sound. It was released about two years before any 5.1 formats were available in home theater. So for that, you needn't bother with a demodulator.

    M.
     
  3. Lee_H

    Lee_H Stunt Coordinator

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    oh ya i know the star wars isnt...but some ld's are....just for the future's sake ya know?

    sure ill check it out
     
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    Grant B Producer

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    If you want great sound get the Japanese Box....It rumbled my gizzard
     
  5. Lee_H

    Lee_H Stunt Coordinator

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    ya i found a place that had the japanese hld-x9 for sale , but theyre all out of stock....

    trying to determine if in the meanwhile, i can find a 919.....i have the option right now of picking up a 909, or an elite 91, but i think those may be a step down....at least in audio processing....

    btw this board and the FAQ roxx...cleared up my demod hookup brilliantly!
     
  6. Lee_H

    Lee_H Stunt Coordinator

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    i see alot of people leave for sale things up, and i replied to some, but theyre old, ill make sure once i purchase something, and anything in this thread becomes irrelevant with regards to wanting to purchase these LD players, ill take this down, or post my successes!

    thanx in advance guys...anyhelp is sooo appreciated...i want to watch these star wars discs correctly before the 30 day ebay protection period is up. i think on one disc there was a section that the disc showed the colored artifacts over the entire screen and latterbox but the picture is wobbly a little and horrible on this faulty piece of crap i bought..is it possible its NOT laserrot>?

    at any rate, i hope someone is selling or knows somewhere that is selling a dvl-919 or one of hte other units i listed above... thanx again
     
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    Contact Kurtis Bahr for a CLD 704. It is the best bang for the buck. It's not close to the Japanese players, but it is great for the money.
     
  8. Glenn Baumann

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    Lee_H,

    How much do the Pioneer HLD-X9 players sell for?

    Glenn
     
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    Lee_H Stunt Coordinator

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    As for the Pioneer HLD-X9, the site that used to have them in stock was selling them open region 1-6 with step down transformer for US and demod for 3,400 US...theyre all out of stock now though.

    I researched many stores online and auction houses, and found a few in completed past archives that sold for 1500!!! I have not found any currently available. I think I found an ld-s9 but it needed repair so i didnt invesstigate.

    as for the LD thats for sale on the site here, the cld-d704, it sounds really nice but ive just gotta do a comparison and or find a site that will show me what it does and doesn't do compared to the LD portion of the DVL-919.

    I just want to make sure the 704 has all the same audio capabilities, options and outputs, and the same bitrate transfers, eg. the 919 has 24 bit DAC.... and do a comparison with comb filtering etc...... searching that out right now.....thanx for the heads up
     
  10. Glenn Baumann

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    Lee_H,

    I have sent you an e-mail!

    Glenn
     
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    alan halvorson Cinematographer

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    I have an LD-S9, mint with step down transformer, box and manual, that I might - that's a mighty big might - be willing to sell. Whether I will or not depends on what you're willing to pay and my mood at that moment.
     
  12. Lee_H

    Lee_H Stunt Coordinator

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    does the ld-s9 have the 24 bit DAC, and all the dts, rf etc outputs etc?

    ill look up its specs, was out this evening
     
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    greg_t Screenwriter

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    The LD-S9 does not have a 24 bit dac, it has the same 1bit DAC as in the Elite 99. I'm not sure if any LD player does. Even the HLD-X9 has a 20 bit DAC and I believe the X0 also had a 20 bit DAC. But if you hook up via a digital connection, the dacs in the LD player are not even used, and since you are asking if they have DTS outputs and such, I'm assuming you already have a modern DD/
    DTS reciever. I would not be too concerned with what dac is in the player since it sounds like you have a modern reciever.

    I also sent you a PM.
     
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    what were you trying to get out of your ld-s9?
     
  15. Gregg Loewen

    Gregg Loewen Video Standards Instructor, THX Ltd.
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    hi guys

    I have a DVL919 in very nice condition. $400 shipped. Please email me at [email protected] if you would like to purchase it. It will be properly boxed / packaged and comes with remote control.

    I also have a yamaha ADp-1? demod for $110 shipped.

    Regards

    Gregg
     
  16. Lee_H

    Lee_H Stunt Coordinator

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    gregg just emailed you as soon as i read your post....have a couple questions.....
     
  17. Lee_H

    Lee_H Stunt Coordinator

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    i have one last newby question....
    i will get an ac3 RF demodulator for sure.,,

    my question is...i take the rf shielded cable as described in the FAQ, plug it into the input of the demod, then the output of the demod is what? a digital signal passed through an RCA or optical? which one...

    if its rca, where do you plug it into on the back of your receiver.... eg...i THINK my receiver accepts rcas (left right video) s-video cable and one optical input per video input...although there may be other inputs on teh back, maybe one that says just digital or something? im using a Yamaha HTR-5660


    i figure on the LD player i buy, ill have one optical hooked up to one of the video inputs, the left and right rcas of the same input and the s-video of the same input....thats where i get lost....the output from the demod goes where? what do i look for on the back?

    thanx for teh newby help, this is all very new to me....
     
  18. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

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    The output from a demodulator is a digital output, just like any other. Most demodulators offer both coax and optical outputs.

    M.
     
  19. Lee_H

    Lee_H Stunt Coordinator

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    thanx thats what i needed to know...
     

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