WOW, Separates RULE!

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  1. Dennis B

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    There is just no good way to describe the amazing difference in sound quality with the introduction of a Rotel amp in my system. I am using a RB-1070 borrowed from my dealer for evaluation which I'll return next week when my RMB-1075 arrives.
    Sound is soooo much clearer, when I turned the amp off it seemed everything was 'blurred', 'foggy', if you get the picture. It really made my speakers come alive. And keep in mind I'm using a Marantz 7200, which may not be top of the line but is in no way a bad receiver!
    A special thanks to Legairre, Larry B, George King and everybody else who pushed me into this move. Separates DO rule![​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  2. george king

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    I am really happy you like the 1070. Given my experience with the 1075, you are going to love it.
    Glad we could help[​IMG]
     
  3. Legairre

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    Glad to have helped. That's why I love it when people say "there's no difference between seperates and a receiver". If they could only hear what their missing.
     
  4. Graham Perks

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    > ...when I turned the amp off it seemed everything was 'blurred', 'foggy'...

    I don't get it. Why did you get any sound at all with the amp off???!!!
     
  5. Dennis B

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    Graham,

    You're probably kidding, but anyway I meant with the amp off and the receiver on.

    Rgds.
     
  6. Graham Perks

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    Sorry I am still confused :)

    You had the speakers connected to both the receiver and the amp? So you could a/b by switching the amp on and off?

    I'm not trying to criticize your results, just trying to understand as I could soon be hooking up a receiver & amp combo :)

    I would have thought the speakers are connected only to the amp, hence turning off the amp would mean no sound, even if the receiver's on!
     
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    I was wondering the same thing. How are you getting sound with the amp off and the receiver on. Are your speakers connected to the amp or receiver?
     
  8. Legairre

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    My guess would be that he disconnected the speakers from the amp. Reconnected them to the receiver and listened to the differences.
     
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    Dennis,
    What speakers are you driving with the Rotel? I have a Marantz SR7000 driving Paradigm Monitor 9s and with the recent upgrade of my speaker cables I'm thinking I need a warm-sounding amp to tame some of this treble. Plus I'm getting the separates itch [​IMG]
     
  10. Dennis B

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    okay, let's see...

    Graham and Tom, I had (1) the pre-outs of the receiver connected to the amp and from there to the speakers and (2) the speakers connected directly to the receiver main outs.

    I alternated between (1) and (2), of course they were not wired at the same time, the receiver doesn't even allow that, and didn't take more than 1 minute to realize something big was happening. By the way, I had all levels adjusted to read the same SPL for a fair comparison.

    Yohan, I'm driving B&W 602s. To quote George King, "better electronics made my good speakers sound great" - couldn't put it in better words.
     
  11. Legairre

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  12. Bill Kane

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    Perhaps I can tag on to this thread for a response to the phenomenon I found when I introduced my new Anthems MCA5 amp into the system yesterday. I described it in my post yesterday on this topic forum...

    to wit, the main thing I first discovered is that the receiver's volume gain had been "improved" by -10 to -12 dB from previous calibration setting for 75dB reference. A CD that played at -40dB previously from the AVR now produces the same sound level at -50 or -52dB. Hey, I'm not complaining about this sensitivity. But have y'all found the same thing?

    bill
     
  13. Legairre

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    Bill,

    I haven't checked the difference with my SPL meter yet, but I definately did have to re-calibrate all my levels. I have noticed that music that I use to play at -10 is now REAL loud as -10.
     
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    Legairre,
    Thanks for the compliment, but I just got "lucky". If my friend had not blown the speakers, I would never have made the observation. Dumb luck doesn't qualify for smarts :b .
    Dennis, I am glad to have some confirmation of what I heard. I was beginning to think I had joined the Lunatic Fringe.[​IMG]
     
  15. Larry B

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    George:
     
  16. Dennis B

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    LarryB is right, the 7200 is now my pre/pro.
     

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