Worst transfer that should be great! - Men In Black

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  1. Paul_D

    Paul_D Cinematographer

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    Theres been a lot of talk about how 'The Grinch' was filmed in a very 'soft' style, which has meant that the DVD transfer looks really washed out with really pale-greyish blacks. It reminded me of my disappointment when I popped in the 'Men In Black' DVD to discover a really washed out, pale transfer with really, really weak blacks. For me, color strength and balance is the most important aspect of a transfer, aside from digital artifacts of course. Edge enhancement is a dream compared with a pale grey DVD image!

    Personnally, I thought 'The Grinch's' tranfer was quite nice - fit the material!
     
  2. Richard Kim

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    If there is any Columbia/Tristar title that deserves a Superbit version, Men In Black is it.
     
  3. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

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    I agree that MIB was a bit soft, but I don't recall it being washed out. Which version are you watching (there were three, as I recall)?

    M.
     
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    My problem with MIB is that it looks like they dusted off an older DVD transfer with sub-par compression (probably made around late 96 or 97 when Sony first thought MIB could be released to DVD) and a less than pristine print rather than pony up the dough, when the DVD was finally greenlighted by Spielberg, for a brand new HD master and use the latest compression techniques.

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    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

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    Oh please.

    Sony's HD transfers from late '96-'97 have held up just fine. The MIB transfer was supervised by Barry Sonnenfeld himself, according to the notes on my 2-disc LE.

    And it should be obvious that the compression was done at or near the time of release, because they released three different versions, each with different features that would have necessitated separate authoring.

    M.
     
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    Evolution would get my nod.
     
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    I've heard the DTS version looks worse than DD version - anyone compare the two?
     
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    Dave,

    The DTS version had about the same sound mix as the DD. The pic was too yellowish as I recall. I swapped the DTS and ponied up the dough for the LE which was fine.

    Im sure someone else can give better info than me but thats pretty much how I felt about it.

    MIB was the only DTS disc I was disappointed with.
     
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