Wonderful discovery: Argento's SUSPIRIA

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  1. Kenneth English

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    One of the things I value most about DVD in general is that this format has allowed me to experience films that I probably would have never otherwise seen (or very likely ever given a second thought).
    Latest case in point: SUSPIRIA. I'd heard for years that this was one of the foremost "must-see" horror films of all time but, based on descriptions, had never built up much enthusiasm to do so. Well...
    Bought it on impulse last night and this was one wicked movie! I'm not sure it made a hell of a lot of sense but I loved it anyway. Glad that I waited so I could see it in full 2.35:1 widescreen. I can't imagine what it must be like P&S'd.
    I'm going to check out the supplements tonight. Great stuff!
    BTW: Dig the 3-disc Alpha case (I can live without the whole tin thing, thank you very much) and the Goblin soundtrack CD is pretty cool, too... [​IMG]
     
  2. Dome Vongvises

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    Welcome to a cinematic classic in the horror genre. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I've come pretty close as to why this movie is popular and endearing to so many people. This movie, properly classified as horror, does just that. With the late 90's release of teeny-bopper slasher flicks (no bad mind you, but getting out of hand), this movie serves as a refreshing experience for many to revisit and for others to first discover. It's eerie music, eerie atmosphere, and gruesome murders are only part of the reason of its wide appeal.
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  3. SteveGon

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    Kenneth, Suspiria is definitely one killer horror flick - even though, as you said, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense sometimes. But what the film lacks in plausibility, it makes up for with atmosphere - very important for a horror film. I must also say that the soundtrack helps out immensely - it's one of Goblin's best. Anchor Bay did a heckuva job with the L.E.
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  4. Seth Paxton

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    I'm planning on renting this very soon based on the numerous recommendations I've heard.
     
  5. Kenny Goldin

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    I ordered the single disc version...looking forward to receiving it! (I have never seen it).
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  7. Matthew_Millheiser

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    Umm...
    I had a completely opposite response to Suspiria. I felt it was too over-the-top, too silly, too gory-for-gore's-sake, and most of all, BORING.
    In the film's defense, I will say that it mixed the worlds of ballet and horrific, sheer Satanic terror better than any film since Powell and Pressburger's The Red Shoes. But...
    Suspiria moved way to slow to sustain interest. The garish, overblown set design - rich, psychedelic neon colors and heavy reliance on shadows -- made the entire affair seem more cartoonish than atmospheric. There was absolutely no character interest whatsoever -- most were poorly defined caricatures. Granted, I rarely watch horror films for character development, but I found myself unable to feel anything towards anyone in the film.
    The gorier aspects (close up shots of a knife slowly entering a beating heart, etc..) brought about the same reaction as much of the gore in Hannibal. Repulsive, for sure, but not scary or particularly horrifying.
    In fact, I was reminded of Hannibal more than once while watching this film...
    There were two scenes I did enjoy in this film (SPOILERS, of course):
    Spoiler:The exact moment when the dog turned on the blind pianist. I didn't see that one coming...
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    Spoiler:When the undead girl pops out from behind the door. Reminded me of a wretched song by mid-80s progressive-metal band Zebra...
    I loathe slasher type films -- Screams, Friday the 13th, Halloween, etc. I like films that establish mood and atmosphere and build toward something, but Suspiria brought about an indifferent reaction from me. After all of the accolades this film had received, I bought the single-edition disc sight unseen at Best Buy ($14.99, not bad). I didn't hate Suspiria, but it really didn't do anything for more either...
    All in my opinion, of course.
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  8. Ken_McAlinden

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    I am not crazy about this film, but recognize the gruesome ingenuity of most of it. I also think I understand why some people have a problem with the pacing although I don't exactly agree with them. The thing I like about it is the sustained dread that the film maintains and builds, punctuating it with moments of gore, but not losing track of it.
    That being said, and without spoiling it for anyone, the ending is a tremendous let-down to me. I feel almost betrayed, asking myself the question "This was what I was waiting for?" It needed something mind blowing like the great payoff scenes in Rosemary's Baby or Psycho (No, I don't mean the lecture in the police station about schizophrenia. [​IMG]), and I think it fell short of those standards. The journey, while scenic, seems kind of tedious when you realize what the destination is.
    Of course, that's just my opinion, and, as they say, 50 million Elvis fans can't be wrong. [​IMG]
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    [Edited last by Ken_McAlinden on September 13, 2001 at 03:39 PM]
     
  9. Matthew_Millheiser

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    Here is where I thought the film was heading:
    Spoiler:The main character (forgot her name) was doing all the killings, while she was hopped up on the wine (blood?) they gave her to drink... That the infamous head witch (forgot her name too) was either controlling her, or perhaps she (the main character) was the witch reincarnated. You never did see the killer's face, after all..
    The payoff, as Ken mentioned, was mindblowingly anti-climactic. To each their own, I suppose.
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  10. Ken_Pro

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    I LOVE this movie! I saw it in a theatre a couple of years ago and it was one of the few times I've been in a jam-packed crowd at a great 70s flick...and in the end it got huge applause. Argento is a maestro.
    I also picked up the beautiful 3-disc set yesterday and can't wait to plunge in again.....
    "Witch!!!!"
     
  11. Brett Hancock

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    Just like to chime in here and say that this is a great flick and I am very happy with the dvd. Just got the 3 disc limited edition today and I must say it is great. Also matthew that is one of the funniest signatures I have ever seen. Peace
     
  12. Matthew_Millheiser

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    I'll give the film another try. I think I was expecting too much due to all the hype... Incidentally Brett, if you like my .sig you must read the articles I pulled it from. There is a link in the sig...
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    [Edited last by Matthew_Millheiser on September 13, 2001 at 09:12 PM]
     
  13. Kevin M

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    And your saying that Halloween doesn't establish mood & atmosphere? Well that's your opinion and you certainly have a right to express it....and I have a right to disagree with that opinion because IMO damn near the first hour of Halloween is used in the set-up of mood & atmosphere.
    But then again that's just my opinion. [​IMG]
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  14. Sean Patrick

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    i love this 3 disc set...only thing that bugs me is the way the gift cards were cramped into the front case. with those in there, it's hard to close the set back up. plus, mine seem a little misaligned and some of the corners were bent.
    no big deal though. great set. this has been my most-wanted Argento title, but after watching it i think still like Tenebre, Phenomenon, and Deep Red more.
     
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  16. Michael Caicedo

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    So, should I get the LE or SE? Looks like the SE is an excellent value (DD, DTS, Anamorphic) with some places carrying as low as $14.99. Are the extras on the LE must have?
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  17. Wes Ray

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    I love the 3-disc LE of this classic horror film. Suspiria has always been one of my all-time favorites. To those who can't get past the lapses in logic...what business do you have watching horror films, especially Dario Argento horror films. Horror films don't have to be "well written" or "well acted". Tell me, how many thespians were in the group of teens in The Texas Chainsaw Massacre? None if you ask me, but it was a damn scary film. Horror has to shock, horrify, and create and unpleasant atmosphere and/or feeling in the viewer. Suspiria does this in spades. I highly recommend it!
     
  18. Kenneth English

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    Michael,
    Short answer: Absolutely.
    The LE is worth getting for the nearly hour-long documentary alone! It's one of the best "making-of/rememberance" documentaries I've yet seen on a DVD. The Golin soundtrack CD is pretty cool, too.
    And: You can get the LE right now at Best Buy for $27.99! A great deal for a 3-disc set.
     
  19. Wes Ray

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    I definitely recommend the LE, but if you must get the single edition, I'd go to K-Mart. I just got back from my local K-Mart and they had an incredible sale on all their Columbia/Tristar and Anchor Bay DVDs. Halloween 5, Halloween, Maximum Overdrive, Suspiria, The Wicker Man, Evil Dead II, Children of the Corn...all for just $12.99 each!
     

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