WKRP In Cincinnati: The Complete Series Review (See Posts #218 & 356 for Info) (3 Viewers)

[Doris2k]

Any edited version I made would look pretty jarring... crystal clear master tape-sourced episodes spliced with scenes burned to DVD from washed-out, fluttery homemade VHS tapes from (I believe) the late 80's.

The results would be pretty psychedelic, to put it charitably.

The vast majority of the time you will just be replacing the audio.

 

[Skywalker79]

If my math is correct then so far out of 126 songs(maybe a few more) played (or sung) only 18 music cuts on the first 2 seasons. That means at least 85% of the music is included in the first 2 seasons. Much better than I expected!

 

[classictvfan40]

If my math is correct then so far out of 126 songs(maybe a few more) played (or sung) only 18 music cuts on the first 2 seasons. That means at least 85% of the music is included in the first 2 seasons. Much better than I expected!

And didn't I read somewhere that 70% is present in the whole set??

 

[Skywalker79]

And didn't I read somewhere that 70% is present in the whole set??

Yeah, amazon.com.

Please note: Where possible, original music from the series is included in this release. Over 70% of the original music is contained in the set. Missing music is due to inability to obtain rights for some content.

 

[kentmccord]

Last winter I spent a few weeks going through all the episodes of the show and listing all the rock (and other) songs used. I put it all together in a handy spreadsheet and now, thanks to all the reviews here, I've started marking all the songs that are present on the DVD set (and those not present). So this is a work in progress, and all help finishing it off will be very much welcome. (I received my set yesterday and haven't had a chance to dive into it myself yet.) Here's the link:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jWiewI2fp1l9gxrIXXhbWWT1a_L4kvASk4UFYLFl4Hw/edit?usp=sharing

AWESOME !!! an idea to enhance it, could you put in the far right column after the 2 that shows what song is and IF it is subbed, what song is in the sub, artist song OR if unknown, put generic music

for each episode where there is missing scenes and/or dialogue, could this info be included there too ?


in the ORIGINAL POST is there anyway once you have done your complete review to make 1 super long post that says episode ? - season ? - title of episode - and list every edit - then 2 lines between eps so is easy to read + so that way people can find the info in 1 post not several

 

[Hasslein]

I just hope the Shout master for Turkey's Away doesn't replace the syndicated version, where Pink Floyd's Dogs was licensed for an indefinite run.

 

[Desdinova]

"She's So Cold" can be heard here, at about 2:30 in (While Bailey talks about the "dancing ducks" promotion).

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4l2ef_real-families-part-3

It's possible The Stones were replaced with Jackson Browne sometime during the 80's syndication run (as The Beach Boys "Surfin' USA" was).

A ha! Thanks for the link. The only version I remembered hearing was with Browne and I saw no mention of that song on the edits list. Though I watched the show religiously during it's first run (as well as subsequent syndications), this switch slipped past me.I find it interesting that instead of switching the original song with a generic cut, they used something by Jackson Browne which I'd assume would cost them more especially since (to the best of my knowledge) the song doesn't appear in any other episodes. But I'm certainly not complaining.Thanks for the clarification!

 

[Brian Himes]

Here are all of the episodes on disc one of season 3.

The Airplane Show: There are three music edits. Devo's Whip It has been replaced but the original dialogue has been kept with no overdubbing. The same for Deep Purple's Space Truckin' since there was some dialogue over this song. The very brief snipit of Debie Boone's You Light Up My Life is gone as well. She is still mentioned during the long roster of other stations announcing their call letters but the actual part of the song is gone. Since the song was at a low volume, it may have been dubbed over with another radio station call letters, but I didn't match each and every bit of this montage with the original version. Sorry folks. I just listened for the song. Everything else sounded correct but it all goes by so quickly that it would take just too much time to pick that minute of the episode apart. Running time: 24:13. The bumper before the tag scene is there.

Jennifer Moves: There are no music edits as there is no music in this episode. Running time: 24:53. The bumper before the tag scene is there.

Real Families: There are some music edits as well as a couple of other edits to this episode. First Johny Olson's voice as the announcer of the Real Families show has been replaced. Also the theme music for the Real Families show has been changed. This was probably done at the same time that Olson's voice was replaced. The Talking Heads song Once In A Lifetime is gone. The dialogue over the song has been kept with no overdubbing. Ok, the Rolling Stones song She's So Cold has been replaced by Jackson Browne's That Girl Could Sing. The original dialogue has been kept. No overdubbing. Running time: 24:50. The bumper before the tag scene is there.

The Baby: There is one music edit. The Pointer Sisters song Could I Be Dreaming is gone and has been replaced with something I don't recognize. There was no dialogue so nothing is affected with the replacement of the song. The mellow jazz music that Venus is playing at the beginning of this episode is there and it is the original piece. Johnny singing Peggy Sue is there as well. Running time: 23:50. The bumper before the tag scene is there.

Hotel Oceanview: No music edits. Running time: 24:14. The bumper before the tag scene is there.

A Mile In My Shoes: The Rolling Stones song Get Of Of My Cloud has been replaced with a generic song. The original dialogue over this song has been kept with no overdubbing. Running time: 24:58.

Bah, Humbug: No music edits. Running time: 24:03.

Baby, It's Cold Inside: No music edits. Mrs. Carlson singing Someone To Watch Over Me is there. Running time: 24:55.

Ok, off to do more season 3 episodes.

 

[derosa]

Looks like the runtimes are short on the beginning of season three.
Almost 4 minutes if you add up what appears to be missing from the first 8 episodes.
Are some of these syndicated versions?

 

[AndrewCrossett]

Wow, they were able to keep the Gershwin!

Seems like the music edits are starting to grow in frequency the deeper we get into the series. It looks like things are tending toward Amazon's estimate of 70% original music.

 

[Jaime_Weinman]

Looks like the runtimes are short on the beginning of season three.
Almost 4 minutes if you add up what appears to be missing from the first 8 episodes.
Are some of these syndicated versions?

No, syndicated versions are about 22 minutes.
Some episodes of WKRP, like "Fish Story," originally timed out at a little under 24 minutes. In the first half of season 4 all the episodes were that length, so I guess the network cut the running time by a minute for a while.
If there's an episode that's near 24 minutes, it's probably just an episode that ran short or had to squeeze in a couple of extra commercials.

 

[Brian Himes]

Here are the next four episodes of season 3. This puts us over the halfway point of the season.

The Painting: No music edits. Running time: 24:55.

Daydreams: No music edits. All of the music (instrumental or vocal) used in the dreams are present. Running time: 24:55.

Frog Story: No music edits. In fact, The Kinks (song You Really Got Me) were not on Shout's list and they are present. Running time: 24:55. The bumper before the tag scene is there.

Venus & The Man: No music edits. Both artists, Candi Staton (song Looking For Love) and Della Reese (song Being Green) were not on Shout's list and they are present. Running time: 24:54. The bumper before the tag scene is there.

I'll be back tomorrow with more of season 3.

 

[lj01]

Brian - just want to thank you again for your awesome work here - thanks for taking the time to do this and report it back for us - much appreciated!!!

 

[johnnyelectron]

My question is on the episode: "Baby, If You've Ever Wondered" when a disappointed Andy is walking into his office, the outro of "Get It Right Next Time" by Gerry Rafferty is playing, then the WKRP jingle, then Supertramp starts before he shoves everything off of his desk. Is the trio of song/jingle/song intact?

 

[bryan4999]

Daydreams: No music edits. All of the music (instrumental or vocal) used in the dreams are present. Running time: 24:55.

I'm so excited about Daydreams; I can't even remember when I have seen Bailey's dream, it has been many years.

 

[classictvfan40]

Here are the next four episodes of season 1.

Mama's Review: No music edits. Running time: 25:08. The scene with Venus is intact and it seems to have the original music. I don't know what the song is, but Venus talks through the entire scene and there is no overdubbing. So, since Fox cut the scene on their season 1 set, I can't help but assume that this is the original scene as originally aired.

This episode does have one small imperfection. At the end, it fades to black (like it should) but then you hear the ending credits music, but Loni Anderson's credit is missing. You just see a black screen. The picture pops back in during Richard Sanders credit. This imperfection might be present on the original master tape and can't be corrected. It's just a minor thing but I thought I'd mention it.

A Date With Jennifer: No music edits. Running time: 25:07. There is an original generic bumper before the tag scene. Also there is a slight video imperfection during the scene in Andy's office just before Jennifer comes in with the new memo. It only lasts a brief moment but I wanted to mention it.

I gotta say here that having Hot Blooded back in the episode sure makes this episode so much better. Brilliant scene.

The Contest Nobody Could Win: No music edits. Yes, the original contest songs are all there. Running time: 25:08. An original bumper is used before the tag scene.

Ok, this is going to take some explaining. I'm not sure what happened here. There are some major edits to this episode. In the original version, just after the whole suits versus dungarees speech between Les and Herb, the scene cuts to Carlson's office and he's talking with Jennifer about the whole suits/dungarees thing. Then Andy comes in and says Johnny wants to pay back the $5000. The conversation between Andy and Carlson continues with mentions of putting Herb back in charge of promotions and Les back in charge of station publicity, Andy is to just program the music and also that the prize will be given out in cash and it's been promoted on the air all morning long. Herb and Les come in with the money. Jennifer then comes in and says the winner will be coming in early. The scene then changes to the lobby and the winner (Vincent Schiavelli) is there. He gets the money and meets Johnny just before he leaves. Johnny escorts him to his car. The real winner enters and the deception is revealed. Johnny then comes back with the cash and tells Carlson that he owes Johnny $12.50. Then the tag scene ending credits with Nicolette Larson's Lotta Love is heard and the next contest (underwear) and prize (lip gloss) is revealed. After that you get the standard ending credits with the usual ending credits music.

On the new set, after the suits versus dungarees speech with Les and Herb, the next scene is in Carlson's office and it's between Herb, Les, and Carlson. Lots of the dialogue is different then the original versions, but the points are basically the same. Herb and Les will be resuming some of their previous responsibilities, and the prize will be in cash. There is no mention of Johnny wanting to pay back the money. Andy leaves the office when the fake winner arrives. The fake is played by a different actor (John Wheeler). The fake doesn't meet Johnny nor does Johnny escort the winner to his car. The real winner comes in (in this version Jennifer is present during the reveal of the fake). Johnny does not get the money back. The next scene is the tag scene in the booth between Johnny and Venus. Johnny is borrowing money from Venus. It is revealed that Johnny has to pay the money back and it is not $5000 but $10,000. He plays a public service announcement asking for donations to help pay the winner his $5000. Johnny then announces the new contest (guess his underwear) and the prize (lip gloss). Standard ending credits with the usual ending credits music.

The only thing that I can speculate is that Shout used alternate scenes so they could edit out Lotta Love at the end and still preserve the underwear/lip gloss joke. It seems a bit of over kill to totally alter half of the second act of the episode to eliminate just one song. And a song that plays over the ending credits of the tag scene at that. Even more puzzling is the fact that the original scenes are on the Fox DVD. Very, very odd to say the least. I think that someone needs to have this addressed by Shout. Like I said, I'm not sure exactly what happened here.

Tornado: No music edits. Running time: 25:09. There is a bumper just before the tag scene. Les does play the Star Spangled Banner and not America The Beautiful. So, that scene is as it originally aired.

I'll be back later with the next four episodes.

The Contest episode on Hulu runs under 24 minutes...it must be the syndicated version but has the ending seen on tv and not the Shout version.

 

[Obtuse]

Just watched:

Doctor Fever And Mr. Tide:

Presented in it's original single episode format (like "Filthy Pictures") Running time 47:35. Lots of music here, so (in order):

Wilson Pickett-"Land of 1000 Dances" present.
Chuck Berry lyric spoken by Johnny present.
Olivia Newton-John-"Xanadu" present.
Rolling Stones-"Sympathy For The Devil" replaced by generic music. No overdubs. (can hear Stones under dialog).
Chic-"Le Freak"-replaced by generic disco music.
Alicia Bridges-"I Love The Nightlife (Disco 'Round)" present.
The Police-"De Do Do Do..." present
Carl Perkins-"Blue Suede Shoes" present
Stone City Band-"Strut Your Stuff" present (thanks, Soundhound for identification).
Little Richard-"Ready Teddy" present.

Not too shabby, Shout! Factory.

Ask Jennifer: No music edits (no music). Running time 24:56.

 

[AndrewCrossett]

If I was Shout, I would have put both versions of "The Contest" on the set and made a big selling point about how it included a super-rare alternate version of an episode. But maybe they didn't even realize there was a version other than the one they were given?

 

[The Obsolete Man]

If I was Shout, I would have put both versions of "The Contest" on the set and made a big selling point about how it included a super-rare alternate version of an episode. But maybe they didn't even realize there was a version other than the one they were given?

IIRC, these were supposed to be the original broadcast masters, correct?

I can't fault them for not realizing that a chunk of the episode was quietly reshot for syndication and reruns and the original broadcast version is different. In fact, this seems to be a surprise to even hardcore fans.

 

[classictvfan40]

IIRC, these were supposed to be the original broadcast masters, correct?

I can't fault them for not realizing that a chunk of the episode was quietly reshot for syndication and reruns and the original broadcast version is different. In fact, this seems to be a surprise to even hardcore fans.

Im interested to see the Shout version one now that I have seen the syndication one.