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Windows 10 News and User discussion

Discussion in 'Computers' started by Sam Posten, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. Stan

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    They send updates constantly. Depending on my mood, usually do the "remind me later" thing. Sometimes I'll let them run, but wow, they take hours to install, so good luck if you need to use your laptop. And it's not like I've got some old putt-putt computer, it's only a year old, runs fine, but MS updates, go and take a nap waiting for them to install
     
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    Unfortunately, that's going to be standard going forward. MS plans 2 "major" updated per year. The one you got is likely this year's fall update which is starting to be rolled out to users. If you look at your "C" partition you'll see a "windows.old" folder. That means you got a major upgrade of Windows. That folder is what will allow you to roll back the update for a short while. Those updates can take an hour or more to install. They'll also contain new "features" MS adds to the OS (and remove stuff they deem unused/unnecessary).

    Looking over the latest list of new features I saw nothing that will be of use to the way I use a computer. Much of it is aimed at further integrating "cloud" services with the OS - something I neither want nor ever plan to use. The rest seems to be "fluff" junk aimed at non-power user types. In addition to being a IT professional I participate in their "insiders" program. Very little of what I complain about ever gets changed and many of the higher rated complaints/requests seem to be ignored in favor of mostly cosmetic changes. They still think the WIndows 10 menu is the best ever. I beg to differ. They are slowly putting back functionality they've stupidly removed. They don't seem to get that people who use Windows don't want an interface stripped of functionality - that's what Chromebooks are for. They also continue to leave in place defaults in settings that are huge security issues (for example: disabling showing file extensions).

    One thing they seem to be leaning towards is adding tabs to Explorer. I just don't get that one and don't see the point. They're wonderful in a browser but what use are they in Explorer? If I have multiple instances of Explorer open it's because I'm comparing folders/files or moving/copying folders/files between them. Tabs do not make that "easier" by any stretch of the imagination. I fear they'll become like Apple and make it difficult to impossible to actually work with the file system in a multitasking manner.
     
  3. DaveF

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    Set the time for updates to be at night or whatever time you don't use your pic. I think this keeps it from happening as you're using the computer.
     
  4. Stan

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    Okay, probably sounding like a complete newbie nerd, even though I've been doing this for 25 years. Where do I go to set the update times? And how do I keep my laptop from "timing out" and going to sleep other than hitting a key every 20 minutes or so? :blush:

    I'd love for things to run at night, just wake up to all the new updates, but seems like I always have to be involved.
     
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    In Windows Start menu search for "updates" to get to the updates control panel. From there you can set hours. I never have to interact with updates except to find my pc rebooted while I was away (not my favorite thing, but so it goes)

    Search for energy saver or screen saver to set sleep options. My Winpc is set to never sleep.
     
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    What Dave said for update times. You can set "active hours" to prevent them from attempting to install while you're working. Unfortunately, you can't set "active hours" to less time than it would take for updates to install (IIRC the maximum is 18 hours).

    You may also want to set your wifi connection to "metered" to better control updates.
    Go to: Settings > Network & Internet > Wi-Fi. Click the name of the wifi you’re connected to. In the next window enable the “Set as metered connection” option.

    With the latest update you can also do this with wired connections. BUT you have to do it separately for every connection (a pain - it should be universal).

    I also recommend disabling the sharing of updates. This is under 'Advanced options" on updates - scroll to "Choose how updates are delivered" and on that screen disable "Updates from more than one place." If you chose to leave this on I'd at least select the "PCs on my local network" option. This disables the peer-to-peer functionality and prevents your bandwidth from being used by MS to update and/or push applications to other computers on the internet.

    For your power settings:

    Open Settings and search for Power. Select "Edit Power Plan" from the items offered. Change "Turn off Display" time to keep it on longer and "Put the computer to sleep" time to one that suits you better. I set it for "never" for desktops and a couple of hours for laptops.

    There are other items you can tweak with "Advanced settings." I always disable hibernation/hybrid sleep as when I shut down the system I want it to actually shut down and not go into hibernation mode. I also set the power button to "shut down" rather than hibernate for the same reason.
     
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  7. Stan

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    Thanks guys
     
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    Today, after using the Free Version of AVG Anti-Virus on my PCs for almost exactly 13 years, I've decided to uninstall this once great, but now increasingly annoying, Pop Up laden program.

    The good news for Windows 10 users is that the built in Windows Defender Anti-Virus software is reported to be much improved over the versions on previous Windows OS's.

    Here's an article, in which it is recommended to use Malwarebytes (Which I have for many years, now!) in conjunction:
    https://www.howtogeek.com/225385/what’s-the-best-antivirus-for-windows-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/

    CHEERS! :)
     
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    For Windows users, I have always recommended Malwarebytes in conjunction with a capable AV (Windows Defender for 90% of consumers) and smart browsing (stay off porn sites, don’t open suspicious emails, etc...). For those whose browsing habits are a little more risky and they need extra protection, I generally point people to McAfee or Trend Micro.
     
  10. Tony Bensley

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    I've also very recently discovered the importance of keeping the Adobe Flash Player up to date on our Windows PC Laptops. Since performing that update (Along with Adobe Reader) the other night, everything seems to be running much faster than it had been, of late! After this, I'm keeping the update setting for the Adobe programs on automatic.

    CHEERS! :)
     
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    I don’t even run Flash or Java on my Mac (not even on the Windows partition) because they’re just malware attack vectors waiting to be exploited. While my browser allows JavaScript content (not the same as Java), I don’t visit any sites which require Flash or Java.
     
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    Unfortunately for me, Adobe Flash seems to be a general requirement, on Firefox, at least! :rolleyes:

    CHEERS! :)
     
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    It is on the others too. Safari, Chrome, and Edge include Flash but generally keep it updated internally without the requirement of a separate dl/install as with Firefox (and its forks). Even though Google pretty much deprecated it in Chrome, it's still available and they keep it updated with the browser. Same with Safari. At least for now. In spite of that it needs to just go away.
     
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    Not only does Safari keep it updated internally, it also keeps it disabled by default. :)
     
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    I was going to grumble about the Fall Creators Update removing my desktop image...but I'm too happy for the new Edge extensions to be annoyed! Ghostery and 1Passworld on Edge! Woohoo!

    Also, a new feature that lets me share websites from iOS to Win10 Edge! I've been wanting something like this for a while. I wish I could roundtrip from Win10 to iOS. But still, this is something useful.
     
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    I finally took the plunge from XP to Win 10 Pro. It could be worse. But I hate that Win Defender chimes every other day to tell me it found nothing wrong with my computer. Can I turn that off and only be notified when there is something wrong? It's the chime that's bugging me. Also, I call BS on quiet time being from midnight to six am. I should be able to have quiet time any freaking time I want it--and the Quiet Time doesn't even work from midnight to six--I am still getting chimed. Any help? It would be appreciated. Thanks.
     
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    I don't use Win10 daily, but that's not been my experience to date. WinDefender for me has been mostly in the shadows, only infrequently asking for attention. I don't know that I changed any settings and looking I can't find anything about frequency of notifications.
     
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    Thanks for looking. I felt like I thoroughly exhausted trying before I pleaded for help. As someone who intentionally skipped a decade of Windows iterations, it seems like there's less customizing for users now and more control for Big Brother. This is one reason I put off coming into the 21st century for so long.
     
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    In order to stop my wife's Facebook from crashing on her Google Chrome, I had to physically uninstall/reinstall GC, and I also updated Adobe Reader and Adobe Flash Player. While I'm not certain which act did the trick on her Windows 8.1 setup, after applying the Adobe Reader and Flash Player updates on my Windows 10 setup, things sped up considerably on my Firefox Browser without having to uninstall/reinstall that Browser.

    It's too bad that in 2017, running things smoothly on a Windows PC remains such a complicated affair, but it is what it is, I suppose!

    CHEERS! :)
     
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    I just bought a new PC with Windows 10 (previous PC had Windows 7), and my experience with Defender has been similar. It just runs in the background doing its job. So far, I haven't found anything with Windows 10 that annoys me. It's not much different than Windows 7.
     

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