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Theme park attractions. Extremely large billboards and commercial applications. Giant screens for touring acts who play 80,000 seat stadiums.
Like 4K?At times I wonder if the 8K "marketing" has more to do with something being a "status symbol", than anything technical based or practical reality. Basically something to attract first adopters for bragging rights among other technical nerdy/geeky types.
Ha, well my 68 (soon to be 69) year old eyeballs certainly aren't 4K, I'd be surprised if they were even 2K by now.
Yeah, there's a ride at California Adventure that would benefit greatly from 8k, especially at 60 fps. It was a virtual flying tour of the state. I see that it was changed to a world tour. I have to admit, though, 8k might give me vertigo!Theme park attractions. Extremely large billboards and commercial applications. Giant screens for touring acts who play 80,000 seat stadiums.
Where did you read this? The reviews I’ve read say it was finished at 2K.What really kills me is when they upscale 1080p content and release it on UHD, like Captain America: The First Avenger. Literally all of the "improvements" are artificially created after the fact.
It was filmed with Panavision Genesis cameras, which are 1080p cameras.Where did you read this? The reviews I’ve read say it was finished at 2K.
Really? I’m surprised @Robert Harris hadn't mentioned this.It was filmed with Panavision Genesis cameras, which are 1080p cameras.
These are real 4K, of course. Actual detail can vary from shot to shot depending on how it was shot. Kubrick films are technically top so detail will usually be as good as 35mm allows under the shooting conditions.I'm curious, the examples he gave is for films that had their DI done at 2K and finished at the resolution. What about older films that were scanned at 4K (The Shining, 2001) and then delivered on a 4K Blu-Ray. Are those "true" 4k images or we still talking about a 2K DI that was upscaled to 4K for release on disc?
So then it’s (Captain America TFA) 2K upscaled to 4K and NOT upscaled 1080p correct?All that matters, is the resolution in which it was completed.
2k.
And it didn’t need more.
2K is the source. But depending on how it's done it can be 1080p or not (a 1080p crop of the 2K or the whole 2K with non integer scaling factor). In any case it's >= 10 bit full colour data and and not to be confused with BD's 8bit 4:2:0 1080p.So then it’s (Captain America TFA) 2K upscaled to 4K and NOT upscaled 1080p correct?
Older films don't have DIs. Anything that was shot on film prior to the year 2000 was entirely completed on film, so the negative can be scanned at any resolution. They could go back and rescan at 8K or higher, but in the case of 35mm, it's not going to yield results any better than 4K.I'm curious, the examples he gave is for films that had their DI done at 2K and finished at the resolution. What about older films that were scanned at 4K (The Shining, 2001) and then delivered on a 4K Blu-Ray. Are those "true" 4k images or we still talking about a 2K DI that was upscaled to 4K for release on disc?
Not sure where you're getting that from. It's a 4K camera.It was filmed with Panavision Genesis cameras, which are 1080p cameras.
https://www.panavision.com/sites/default/files/docs/documentLibrary/Genesis One Sheet.pdf❚ 12.4 mega pixel, true RGB sensor (not Bayer pattern)
The movie was shot at 1080p (with the exception of some of shots that couldn't be accomplished with the Genesis, which were shot on film). The live action footage was then upscaled from 1080p to 2K for post-production. The visual effects elements were presumably rendered at 2k. The 2k DCI was then upscaled again to 4K for the UHD release.So then it’s (Captain America TFA) 2K upscaled to 4K and NOT upscaled 1080p correct?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a beautifully shot movie. I just don't know that it needed the UHD treatment.Captain America: The First Avenger still looked great on my LG OLED!
Of 664 titles I looked at about five months ago on one of the "Real vs. Fake" 4K websites, 313 titles were real and 351 were upscaled.