why only 2 sith?

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  1. Jeremy Illingworth

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    In Episode 1 Yoda says there are always only two Sith, one master and one apprentice. Why? Their enemy is the Jedi (why?) who number in the hundreds if not thousands. How are two men going to bring them down? Or when the apprentice gets cut in half won't it take years for the master to train a new one? Doesn't seem practical.
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  2. Shayne Lebrun

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    I more got the impression that he meant 'if we found this one, there's one more, who is either a master, or an apprentice;' i.e. they work in pairs.
    But that having been said, Luke was supposed to kill Vader and take his place, maintaining the 1:1 ratio.
    And you have to figure that the only reason Maul didn't kill Sideous is because Sideous was more powerful; that tends to be a problem with being evil: "not a team player."
     
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    Its been mentioned that at one point there where many sith but they all fought amongst each other, so you cut down the number of sith to reduce fighting.
     
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    I think Shayne is correct.. he isn't implying there are only 2 sith in existence.. just that they arrive in pairs. Which one was Maul, the master or the apprentice? Cue pan to Palpatine.
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    It's still a really really dumb story, IMHO. But ah well, Lucas can write his story anyway he likes, even if it does suck. [​IMG]
    I'll just add this to the plethora of inanities in Episode I that, again IMHO, really drags it down.
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    Are there only 2 sith at the time of TPM? I had thought that those 2 were only one of many pairs.
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    Sometimes I get the feeling that Lucas makes this stuff up as he goes along.
    Heres something that you may have seen before:
    There's apparently going to be an extra scene included in the DVD release of EMPIRE STRIKES BACK coming up next year! Basically, it expands on the scene where Vader reveals his fatherhood to Luke, and ties up some loose ends created with the release of Episode 1...
    THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK EXTRA-SPECIAL EDITION
    INT BESPIN GANTRY - MOMENTS LATER
    A furious lightsaber duel is underway. DARTH VADER is backing LUKE SKYWALKER towards the end of the gantry. A quick move by Vader chops off
    Luke's hand. It goes spinning off into the ventilation shaft. Luke backs away. He looks around, but realizes there's nowhere to go but straight down.
    DARTH VADER: Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father.
    LUKE: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
    DARTH VADER: No, Luke... I am your father!
    LUKE: No! It's not true! It's impossible.
    DARTH VADER: Search your feelings... you know it to be true...
    LUKE: NO!
    DARTH VADER: Yes, it is true... and you know what else? You know that brass droid of yours?
    LUKE: Threepio?
    DARTH VADER: Yes... Threepio... I built him... when I was only 7 years old...
    LUKE: No...
    DARTH VADER: Seven years old! And what have you done? Look at yourself, no lightsaber, no hand, no job, and couldn't even levitate your own ship out of the swamp...
    LUKE: I destroyed your precious Death Star!
    DARTH VADER: When you were 20! When I was 10, I single-handedly destroyed a Trade Federation Droid Control ship!
    LUKE: Well, it's not my fault...
    DARTH VADER: Oh, here we go... "Poor me... my father never gave me what I wanted for my birthday... boo hoo, my daddy's the Dark Lord of the Sith...waahhh wahhh!"
    LUKE: Shut up...
    DARTH VADER: You're a slacker! By the time I was your age, I had exterminated the Jedi knights!
    LUKE: I used to race my T-16 through Beggar's Canyon!
    DARTH VADER: Oh, for the love of the Emperor... 10 years old, winner of the Boonta Eve Open... Only human to ever fly a Pod Racer... right here baby!
    (LUKE looks down the shaft. Takes a step towards it.)
    DARTH VADER: I was wrong... You're not my kid... I don't know whose you are, but you sure ain't mine...
    (LUKE takes a step off the platform, hesitates, then plunges down the shaft. DARTH VADER looks after him.)
    DARTH VADER: Get a haircut!
     
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    Answer, Lucas doesn't want to show us the coolest scene ever in a Star Wars movies, 10.000 Sith vs 10.000 Jedi in battle! He would rather show us Bounty Hunters & Clonetroopers!
    Another Flaw in Lucas's two Sith only rule is the fact that he says, the Sith are so evil than there can't be more than 2 because then they may destroy each other. But I say what's to prevent the apprentice from destroying the master without any help, anyway. Infact if I were the Master I would always want aleast 3 around, so I can turn the apprentices against each other.
    Infact there's no real need for Light Sabers, when there's no one to duel with, except for an occasional Sith every thousand years or so, and I thought falling to the dark side was so tempting. If the darkside was so tempting and easy, there should be more Sith than Jedi!
    Sorry, but as a big Star Wars fan , I just needed to vent, I'm somewhat unhappy with the direction Lucas is taking the series!
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    SOMEWHAT unhappy? It's not even the same series. If the Clone Wars is anything like Episode 1, the series will have turned into COMPLETE garbage.
     
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    Thanks for the pic...
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    Ah, the ol' expanded Darth/Luke in the Cloud City air shaft scene.
    That was first posted here a little over a year ago, I think.
    Still very funny though. [​IMG]
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    [Edited last by Joel Fontenot on October 23, 2001 at 12:48 PM]
     

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