Why is Planes Trains and Automobiles Rated 'R'?

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  1. Andy_S

    Andy_S Second Unit

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    I was telling my 12 year old about how great this movie is (he LOVED Uncle Buck) so I purchased it and I was surprised to find it was rated R. I don't remember anything in it that would give it such a strict rating. Was it the scene where
    Steve Martin is cursing at the rental car lady?


    Is there a sex scene or something extremely violent that I don't remember?
     
  2. SteveGon

    SteveGon Executive Producer

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    It was the cursing scene. Funny as hell, too!
     
  3. HenrikTull

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    This could be a reason:

     
  4. Jeff Kleist

    Jeff Kleist Executive Producer

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    Drop the F bomb over 3 times and it's R

    As if every 6yo in the country doesn't know that word
     
  5. MikeEckman

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    Yeah. Stand By Me got an R-rating for language only. Although some of the language might seen inappropriate for a young kid, I first saw that movie when I was 8, and my parents let me watch it with them and I very much enjoyed it. I think that is a movie that every young boy should see.

    As for Planes Trains Automobiles, the rental car scene has to be the reason. I mean, theres other adult humor in the movie too that by itself probably would have given it a PG-13 rating, however, Im sure all the fucks pushed it over the limit.
     
  6. Andy_S

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    Great. Thanks guys. He's heard the word already so I think it'll be okay if he watches to movie. Besides, this will teach him that the only time it's okay to use the word is when it's funny as hell [​IMG]
     
  7. Adam Lenhardt

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  8. Prentice Cotham

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    I think because of the two pillows and Steve Martin's hand. [​IMG]
     
  9. Timothy Alexander

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    "Where's your other hand?"
    "Between two pillows..."
    "Those aren't PILLOWWWWWWWWWWWWS!!!!!!!!!"
     
  10. Michael*K

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    The Score was another movie that easily could have been a PG-13 if not for language. Like anyone under the age of 17 hasn't heard any of that language before. Ridiculous.
     
  11. Brian Perry

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    Maybe the word "fucking" should only count for 1/2 the value of "fuckin'" as it is the more humorous variant. [​IMG] (Although that would still leave PT&A way over the limit.)
     
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    F*ckin' Aye!
    [​IMG]
     
  13. george kaplan

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    While the use of the f word as an automatic R is silly, I least I know why those films get an R. What's perplexing is what in Father of the Bride parts 1 or 2 get those films a PG rating. There's not even a hell or a damn as far as I can tell.
     
  14. Brian_J

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    Well, I'll be the lone dissenter here because I don't want to see a bunch of f-bombs in PG-13 movies. Its already tough to tell what qualifies as a safe PG-13 versus a hard PG-13 (one that I would not take my son to).

    Brian
     
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    Great movie...but any movie that uses the F word should be rated R, whether a 6 yr old has heard it before or not.
     
  16. Adam Lenhardt

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    I haven't raised any children, so forgive me if this is a stupid question Brian and Dave, but why? It seems like such an arbitrary distinction. The word shouldn't cause anyone psychological harm. As long as they know better than to run around going "Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!" I really don't see why it's such a big issue.
     
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    The joy of the English language is that there are slight but meaningful nuances to words. For someone who treasures using the correct word at the right time to convey precisely what one means, one can only use that particular word. Sometimes that word will be offensive to others who do not appreciate the concept of concise vocabulary.

    BFD
     
  19. Adam Lenhardt

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    If the ratings standards were more clearly defined then they are, and if they were simply guidance rather than limitations, I would agree with you. Certainly, that is how ratings SHOULD be. But a (pre)teenager (in my opinion of course) should be able to see a film without having to drag their parent along if the only thing that puts it in that 'Restricted' limitation is the extended use of that single word (especially if it is used in a non-sexual context). I respect your beliefs on the matter, and while I don't share them in this matter as I would with for instance violence, I agree there should be a standardized system which advises what one can expect from a film.

    The problem with this is twofold:
    1) The ratings standards are far from standardized. Those who are respected in the industry or who have the support of the big studios get much more leeway than, say, and independent filmmaker. This alone invalidates them are a compass for what content can be expected in a film.

    2) By imposing these guidelines as admission restrictions, the entire public is held to the moral standards of the MPAA.

    There are many films otherwise perfectly acceptable for youth consumption except for minor things like language and drug use (even in a way that shows how bad drug use is). Almost Famous comes to mind. Then there are films rated PG-13 or less that contain no foul language, onscreen violence, or drug use that contain suggestive themes and/or dramatic elements that are totally unsuitable for younger people.
     
  20. Jeff Kleist

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    I personally would have given The Score a PG

    Nothing offensive in there, except Brando says Fuck too much
     

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