Why do you seldom see nude people in american movies?

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  1. Jens Raethel

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    In sweden even tv series for children or comercials may have naked bodies.

    It's not unusual for a guy to show his whole package on TV.

    So what?

    Aren't we all nekkid under our clothes?
     
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    Yeah we need more NUDES[​IMG]
     
  3. Scott L

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    Americans have a strict standard of showing nudity on public television. That's just the way it is. We can show drug use and killing but no nakedness. Not a BIG deal but I'm sure some of the replies here will disagree.
    FYI- American men yield the highest sperm counts in the world. Maybe it's because we leave more to the imagination. [​IMG] I actually believe this is true so I can stand seeing it only in real life!
     
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    The MPAA has decreed that violence is ok, nudity and sex is bad.
    Unfortunately, this is the norm for most of North America, except for Quebec. There is almost a shocking lack of censorship here in television and film. Must be because we're French. [​IMG]
     
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    Nakedness is just so unnatural.
     
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    Jens,
    Short answer :
    POLITICS
    This is O.K.:
    [​IMG]
    But this isnt?
    [​IMG]
     
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    The short answer:
    Between about 1500 and 1800, Europe shipped many of their arch-conservative religious types over to the US (Our history books paint them as horribly picked on, but having met the modern day versions, I don't feel so bad for them [​IMG] ). You know, the ones who think dancing and any kind of happiness is the road to hell? So here we are, 400 years later, and they're still running our lives through their ancestors
    That's the short answer anyway, I hope I didn't violate forum rules with it [​IMG]
     
  8. Morgan Jolley

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    For TV, you can show butts and the actual body, so long as you don't actually show anything from the front naked.

    In movies, female nudity above the waist is OK. Anything else and male nudity is pretty much absent (though Any Given Sunday, one of the best films of the year it came out, has full frontal male nudity).

    We can't even get away with using all the dirty words on TV. It sucks.
     
  9. Sarah S

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    I think it also has to do with body image; if you don't have the perfect supermodel/athletes body, then you had better not display it. Otherwise people will laugh at you. And since most people don't....

    Of course, the Puritans and the Victorians didn't help any.
     
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    What I don't understand is you can show most of the female breast even on regular TV (like a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Special) but you can show the nipple. They show all the breast meat but then they cover up the areaola and the nipple, which in most girls is just about 10% of the total breast. Is the nipple somehow designated as the defining point for nudity?
     
  11. Evan S

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    Americans remove any form of nudity from regular TV broadcasts and limit it in the movies so as to repress the American public and drive up the demand for XXX pornography, creating and fueling a multi-million dollar US porno market.

    Just my skewed hypothesis.
     
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    Duanne, I believe the nipple is the difference between what is and isn't allowed. The reasoning, I figure, is because you can always show cleavage, which is nothing but exposing some breast. It's impossible to decree exactly how much breast is good and how much isn't, especially when some dresses show the part between the breasts, some are low-cut, etc, all of which are perfectly acceptable in public.

    In Europe, they are as uptight about violence as we are about nudity. I always find it funny when one makes fun of the other for it.

    Though I'd rather broadcasters have more freedom, if I had to pick one to have, violence or nudity, I would choose the violence, so I don't complain too much. Nudity doesn't really make a show or movie better in terms of plot and such, wereas a violent car chase or shoot-out can be a major part of the story.
     
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    My girlfriend got very upset last year on her first trip to the USA, when she discovered that she had to cover up on those lovely Cape Cod beaches.....
    Are there any topless beaches in the States.....? I'm not with her any more so would be interested in any relevant locations. [​IMG]
    Needless to say topless is allowed, no almost mandatory, on most European beaches...
     
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    Because most Americans are incapable of viewing the nude human form in any context other than sexual. And Sex=Bad, so therefore any full-on Nudity=Bad. If we were able to separate the sex from the simply nude, there'd be less of a problem. Americans are notoriously prudish and uptight about nudity. Nonsensical, but that's the way it is.
     
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    I don't understand it either.

    the whole normal word vs. swear word comcept is also beyond me. but that's a whole other thread.
     
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    There have been several lawsuits here in Austin claiming that anywhere a man can go topless a woman should be able to as well. Most, if not all, led to the charges against the woman being dropped. I don't know how high this question has made it in the legal system.
     
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    Morgan Jolley wrote:
    You all do know that it used to be illegal for men as well as women to appear topless in public in some jurisdictions in the country? They don't wear those one-piece bathing suits in those old movies for nothing. That too, was part of the "Hayes code", was it not?
    Is it time for us to start asking about "crazy Swedish customs" yet???
     
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    Jeff nailed it. Culturally, we're about a century behind.
     
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