Why do Top Actors Appear in Lousy Films?

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  1. Jim Sentry

    Jim Sentry Stunt Coordinator

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    appear in lousy films.

    I just watched Million Dollar Hotel starring Mel Gibson.

    He played an FBI agent investigating the murder/suicide of some young guy.

    All the main characters were weirdo's who resided in this seedy hotel. This movie totally sucked and I can't why Gibson would bother with it. And he didn't direct or produce it either. It was a freaky movie.

    Why would a guy who could get his choice of roles with his choice of co-stars waste his time on some crap.
     
  2. Jason Harbaugh

    Jason Harbaugh Cinematographer

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    Needed money?
    Favor for a friend?
    Thought it was actually good?
    Picking different, interesting projects?
    Family held ransom?

    Lots of reasons. [​IMG]
     
  3. Jason Seaver

    Jason Seaver Lead Actor

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    I believe Gibson wanted to work with Wim Wenders. Didn't turn out well (Gibson even called it boring in interviews), but, hey, if you don't try new things, you can get into an awful rut.
     
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    Directed by Wim Wenders. I'd take a chance on the man who made Wings of Desire, too. I haven't seen Million Dollar Hotel, though.

    edit: yeah, what Jason said
     
  5. Colin Jacobson

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    The original thread seems to assume that those involved know the movie'll suck when they start it. Some projects sound good at the beginning but end up as less than satisfying. It's not like they set out to make a bad movie!
     
  6. Joseph DeMartino

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    Really. I'm sure the script Mel read looked good on the page. Movie making is a strange alchemy as the talents of writers, directors, actors, lighting technicians, editors, et. al. blend their skills and talents. The whole process is so hard, the whole thing is such a crapshoot with so many factors not really under anyone's control that the wonder is that any good films ever get made at all. Quite apart from anything that happens at the writing or shooting stage, the entire film can be remade, in effect, in the editing room. A drama can be turned into a comedy with a few tweaks and a new musical score. [​IMG]

    And actors, in particular, tend to focus on their own roles. If a project seems shakey for various reasons, an actor may still take it if the part he or she has been offered is a juicy one, or offers the actor a chance to "stretch", or (very popular with younger women) change their image (especially when a former child star tries to move into adult parts.)

    Regards,

    Joe
     
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    Gibson's company, Icon, did produce this movie--which not only somewhat explains his involvement, but makes one wonder why Gibson would call a project he has a financial stake in boring.
     
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    Gibson did explain his "boring" comment. Apparently he tried his hardest to sell the movie but during the press junket, he just got really frustrated after doing nonstop interviews that he let his own feelings out. [​IMG]
     
  9. Shawn_KE

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    Actors do it all the time.

    People told Burt Reynolds he was a idiot for taking up on Smokey and the Bandit. But that movie went on to be one of the biggest money makers, the movie he is most remembered for and a America icon.
     
  10. Joseph DeMartino

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    I don't think Smokey and the Bandit is an example of the kind of thing Jim had in mind. While not exactly high art, Smokey didn't exactly "suck", either. It was a well-made, very funny bit of low humor and it found and audience as its prodcuers expected it to. There's a difference betwen an actor "slumming" by doing a "commercial" film that some people perceive as "beneath" them because they need the paycheck and doing a picture that just plain turns out to be bad.

    Regards,

    Joe
     
  11. Lynda-Marie

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    Sometimes, it also depends on the timing of the movie in the performer's career, too.

    If the film takes place early on, while said performer is trying to get his/her big break, then you can write it off to doing what had to be done in order to get the big break.

    Sometimes, after the performer has become a "star" (whatever that means anymore) it could be a vanity project, something done because he/she wanted to work with a particular director, or maybe something for a change of pace. A "star" best known for action movies, might want to do a light comedy, so he/she can take a break from being dangled off the side of cliffs, or constantly having stuff blown up around them.

    And, like Colin and Joseph pointed out, sometimes a project that has "winner" written all over it might turn out otherwise, for a variety of factors.

    Too, there is one other thing you might want to take into consideration; even if you don't like a change of pace from a star, it does not mean that everyone is going to agree with you. There might be those out there who say, "Wow, I didn't know he/she could do comedy/drama/action/etc."
     

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