Why do these NON-16x9 DVD's appear to be 16x9??

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  1. JohnS

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    I decided to watch a couple of movies I haven't seen in a LONG time. Plus finally watch these on my 16x9 tv finally.
    Something About Mary
    Wargames
    Now, both of these are not listed 16x9. And I know they aren't 16x9. When I watch them, they both fill up the screen as if they were 16x9.
    What's the deal. They both look all right too, not like the other NON-16x9 DVD's(all pixeled and looking different on the tv)
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    It's interesting because according to the sites the US release is non-anamorphic. However my R2 version is anamorphic.
    I dunno how it is filling up your w/s telly, though. Definitely on 'wide' mode? It's not your TV automatically switching to 'zoom'? I guess not.
    Maybe it's always been mislabelled.
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    well, just because a movie isn't 16x9 enhanced doesn't mean it won't fit your 1.78:1 ratio (16x9)screen. Your tv has a zoom mode which allows you to fill the width of the screen (for non-enhanced dvds) as well as a full mode which unsqueezes a 16x9 enhanced dvd to fill the width of the screen. Enhanced 16x9 dvds are almost always better because of the extra vertical resolution but, there have been a few non-enhanced (letterboxed) dvds that look quite good just by zooming to fill the 16x9 screen.
    **note: a 2.35:1 ratio movie (enhanced or non-enhanced will fit the with of your 16x9 tv but, you will still have small black bars on top and on the bottom, this is normal**
    hopefully I understood your topic correctly.
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    Some DVD's have aspect ratio coding which your TV can sometimes figure out and switch to zoom automatically. If it is a good quality LBX, it will look OK zoomed.
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    If your TV can figure it out for you, that's a nice feature for all of those early Fox and Paramount non-enhanced titles with enhanced for 16:9 menus.
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    There's Something About Mary has one of the best non-anamorphic transfers I've ever seen.
     
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    Are you watching on a new JVC progressive scan or Panasonic RP91??? If you are talking about the quality of the picture then this could be what's going on. If the 2.35:1 picture is filling your screen then it's the TV's zoom function. Switch it to standard or full. On 1.85:1 laserdiscs I use the "expand" mode on my TV to get the proportions correct. My DVD player will "expand" the non-enhanced discs to the correct proportions. They look great too.
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    Turn on your subtitles. If you can't read them all your picture has been zoomed.
     
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    Wargames-Ok, the subtitles are being cut off. So this is obviously not 16x9
    Something About Mary-The subtitles are NOT being cut off and the picture fills up the screen/when other non-16x9 movies are distorted on the screen.
    and the back of the packgae says 1.85:1. Is this a mis print? b/c people are saying it's 2.35:1
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    It's probably because these are 1:85:1 movies. My W/S does the same thing and I have to adjust the scroll to center the picture.
    Trace
    [Edited last by Trace Ahlers on August 30, 2001 at 05:58 PM]
     
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    I think people are just referring to 2.35:1 to point out you still get black bars even with anamorphic 2.35:1 films.
    Something About Mary should be 1.85:1. If you are zooming on such an image you will probably get tiny black bars top and bottom as your TV is 1.78:1. When you use the 'wide' mode on your TV, however, it will 'overscan' and you will get the screen filled on 1.85:1.
    Sounds like the picture on that title is indeed anamorphic. Makes sense as the R2 is anamorphic (and identical I believe). R2 WarGames is non-anamorphic. Seems to make sense. I'd just be happy if I were you but I guess you already are!
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