Why do liquor/beer web sites make you enter your age?

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  1. MarkHastings

    MarkHastings Executive Producer

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    What does surfing a beer (or liquor) site have to do with legal age? I mean, porn sites only say "Are you sure you want to enter" without 'age verification'.

    And even if you are underage, is it somehow illegal to surf a web site? Kids can go in liquor stores and bars, so what's the deal with the web sites???
     
  2. Christ Reynolds

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    probably the same as a liquor store. the only time you need to show your ID is at time of purchase, i'm guessing.

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  3. Jason Hughes

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    Their lawyers made them do it.
     
  4. Jeff_CusBlues

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    Here in Indiana, kids (people under 21) absolutely cannot enter a liquor store. They are asked to leave immediately.

    Of course, in Indiana, you also can't sell cold pop at a liquor store and you can't sell cold beer at a grocery or convenient store. We have some very strange laws.
     
  5. MarkHastings

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    It's funny; last night I went to one of those 'chain' restaurants (like Chilis) with my parents and my mom saw a small kid sitting at the bar. She said "I thought kids aren't allowed in the bar area?"

    I didn't think it was a law, so I argued that it was ok. She goes "but they serve alcohol there!" and I said "but they serve alcohol at the tables..."

    she shut up, but it did raise an interesting point...
     
  6. Eric Peterson

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    This is one of those things that drives me crazy. I forget which beersite it was, but one of them actually made me enter my birthdate twice (Then gave me some crap about making sure that you are over 21). What the hell can I possibly do on this website except read about the damn brewery or buy a T-Shirt? It's absolutley pointless.
     
  7. Jeff_CusBlues

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    Well, another liquor law here in Indiana is that in a restaurant, bar areas and "family dining" must be separate areas. If you don't have a separate area that doesn't have a "bar", you are a bar and cannot serve people under 21. This is relaxed from the previous law which said bar areas must not be visible to the family dining area. Now it just has to be separate, but can be visible from the family dining room. It is actually nice because if you are out without kids and want to sit in an area without kids, the bar is definitely your place. In Ft. Wayne, you also cannot smoke in a restaurant so you don't have to worry about smoke in the bar either. Of course, if you are a smoker, you won't like that part of it. I'm not sure, but I think if you don't offer family dining, you can allow smoking, but I'm not totally sure on that one. Again....Indiana is a weird state when it comes to our liquor laws.
     
  8. MarkHastings

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    I totally agree that kids shouldn't be in the bar area. I just thought it was funny (if it was a law) that the reason would be "because they were serving alcohol in there" while you could order drinks at your table. [​IMG]

    Speaking of a no kids area, I was at another 'chain' bar area and there was this family (with their kids) eating at the bar area. My friend said "shit" and the father got all in her face because his kids were present. [​IMG]

    So while it's probably not a law, they should really keep kids out of the bar area. I mean they can't view beer online, so why let them view it in person! [​IMG]
     
  9. Seth=L

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    I live in Fort Wayne, the law states that no restaurant can have any smoking in any section of the restaurant within city limits unless it is completely separate from all other parts of the restaurant, like a glass room at an airport. If the place is considered a bar, such as Hooters, smoking is allowed. Go the www.dumb.com for a complete list of insane laws in different states. There is even a law in South Bend, IN that states it is illegal to make a monkey smoke a cigarette. And don't even think of crossing the Minnesota state borders with a duck on your head.
     
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    A lot of this stuff started after the initial tobacco lawsuits. I believe the industry wants to be perceived as not advocating alcohol to minors. This token of responsibility gives them an added perception of we don't cater to minors imo.
     
  11. Bryan X

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    Nothing irritates me more than asking for non-smoking and being seated mere feet from the open smoking section. Having a non-smoking area in a restaraunt is like having a no-peeing section in a pool. Just doesn't work. If it were up to me, there'd be no smoking at all in restaraunts (or any other public place for that matter). I guess that's why it's not up to me. [​IMG]
     
  12. MarkHastings

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    In CT, they banned it from restaurants, bars, cafes, coffee houses, etc. etc. - It's SO amazing how much nicer it is not to have to breath in smoke. Like you said Bryan, there is this SMALL restaurant in my town and they're "Non-Smoking" section was just three table along the wall. WTF? I know they were only there because the law said they had to have a non-smoking section, but what good does that do if they can't also control the air flow? It's nice to have smoke-free because "non smoking" sections were a joke.
     
  13. Seth=L

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    like I said some restaurants have completely closed off areas with glass walls and doors with smoke filters in the ceiling so they aren't a nuisance to non-smokers. Though it seems they only do this in areas were smoking is in fact not allowed unless certain provisions are made to make void problems for the non-smokers in a restaurant
     
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    Short answer, to cover their asses, in case some numbskull "parent" files a lawsuit, on the grounds the website "encouraged" underaged drinking, or did nothing to "prevent" a minor from drinking.

    Pretty sad, huh?
     
  15. MarkHastings

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    Especially considering Fast Food places (and other junk food sites) not only don't require age verification, but ENCOURAGE kids to visit their sites with cartoons and animation!!!

    So why do parents think it's bad for their kids to view liquor sites? Have you ever seen kids at McDonald's? They go NUTS! It's like crack to them! If they haven't had fast food in a week, they get all pale and shakey.

    Parents are definitely fucked up.
     
  16. Bryan X

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    Let's not paint with such a broad brush. I'll give you that some parents (maybe even most) are messed up, and I am just as quick to blame bad parenting for kids' screwed up behavior. But there are also many of us out there doing a darn good job of it.
     
  17. Lynda-Marie

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    Bryan, the reason I used the quotation marks, because I question whether these lawsuit-happy types claiming to be parents should be honored with such a title.

    Hence, "parents."
     
  18. MarkHastings

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    But I didn't. I didn't say 'all' parents. I am referring to those who go out of their way to protect their kids, yet have no problems harming them in other ways.

    And if you want to talk broad strokes, just look at the TONS of fat kids at McDonald's and the parents who have no problems letting them eat there. That's definitely a BROAD stroke....perhaps not all, but DAMN!
     
  19. Holadem

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    Is there is really any ground for comparison between alcohol and fast food as far as children are concerned? If that doesn't define apples and oranges, I don't know what does.

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  20. MarkHastings

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    I think that's my point though. Why are they seen as apples and oranges? Why do parents go to such extremes to keep alcohol away from their kids (because it's bad), yet find it perfectly acceptable to let them eat fast food (which is also bad)? I understand that alcohol is probably worse, but what about those kids who LIVE off of fast food?

    I know parents who allow their kids to eat fast food several times a week, but heaven forbid they take a sip of beer! [​IMG]


    p.s. This was actually more to the tune of web sites where alcohol sites (which is bad for kids) are forced to keep kids out, but fast food sites (which is also just as bad for kids) do everything they can to entice kids to log on...
     

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