I went to BB the other day looking at camcorders. I only had two criteria that I wanted met.. It had to be Mac compatible out of the box without jumping through hoops, and it had to have a decent picture while filming indoors. I don't think I was asking for too much. Well the salesperson immediately directed me to the Sony hard drive camcorders. And I stopped her right there and told her a little slower so she could understand that it Needed to be mac compatible. She says it's Mac compatible it's a Sony. I told her that the hard drive camcorders record in MPEG2 and not MPEG4.. Mac cannot decode MPEG2 and can only decode MPEG4. She then said it will do it. So I proceeded to say "hold that thought" I went out to my car and grabbed my macbook. Came back in and said prove it. Well long story short she couldn't get it to work. I then packed up my macbook and went to circuit city and was in and out in 5 minutes with a JVC miniDV. The salesman there seemed to know what he was talking about and actually listened to me. Sorry for the wordy post.. I just had to vent my frustration with that store.. I hate going to BB, for that very reason.