Why am I seeing a red Halo on the left edges of people/objects in Grease?

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  1. Cris K

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    Sorry if this is the wrong forum, I could not decide if this was better to post here or in the equipment forum.

    I have a Sony Grand Wega 60" (not calibrated, just out of the box) and have been noticing an annoying red halo around the left edges some high contrast areas lately. It is in "normal" picture mode, but does not go away in pro mild or vivid.

    I see it in "Grease" most prevelently, but I also saw it in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas Criterion and Daredevil. I also see the dim white/grey halo on the right side of some of the same things, which I assume is "edge enhancment."

    I have a Sony 7000 player and can see it in both composite out and also component out. I do not have an Svideo cable to try that option. I am also using CHEAP cables, but since I see it in composite, I am not sure that that is the entire problem.

    SO: Has anyone else seen this? I did not see any mention of it in Ronald's review so I am wondering if it could be something else...

    edit:here are some crummy pics, but even in these you can see it!

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    thanks!


    -cris
     
  2. Chad R

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    sounds like your set needs to be aligned.
     
  3. Christopher a

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    Cris, Chad is right. Sounds like you need to adjust your convergence. If your brave enough, you should be able to do a search on some of the other forums and find instuctions on how to enter the service menu and adjust. If not, you may want to schedule an ISF tech to do it.

    Chris
     
  4. Cris K

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    Thanks [​IMG]

    Is there still "convergence" on the LCD sets?

    -cris
     
  5. Mitch Stevens

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    Chris, I have the EXACT same problem that you do with my Sony 700P DVD player. I'm thinking that maybe it's our Sony DVD players.

     
  6. Cris K

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    Thanks, Mitch.

    I called Sony today, and even though I told them ALL of the trouble shooting that I had done, they still walked me through their innane script.

    Are you watching it on Sattelite? Yes, I also see it on DVD and VHS, composite or component...

    Can you change the channel? Yes it's still there...

    Do you have a DVD player? Yes, like I said I see it on component and also on the composite input, and on multiple DVDs.

    Is the DVD player connected directly to the TV? Yes, and I also see it through the composite input which goes through the reciever...

    Can you put in a different disk?


    ARGH! you get the picture... The kicker is that I see this stupid halo now even in the MENU. I just noticed this last night.

    Oh well, I guess it's the TV. Sorry about posting in the wrong forum. At least it is still under warrantee. The payments are killing me though. I wish it would work correctly. Hopefully the service call will not cost anything.


    Thanks for the help everyone.


    -cris
     
  7. Cris K

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    There is a serviceman coming tomorrow! Hopefully it will be something he can fix fairly easily.

    I know it looks small in those pics but it is at least the width of my finger and itis very annoying!


    Thanks again for the advice.

    -cris
     
  8. Max Leung

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    Maybe...just maybe...those cheap cables are the culprit.
     
  9. Cris K

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    Maybe! It would be nice if it were that easy, but it does not explain why I can still see it around text boxes when I have a neutral backgound, like a blue screen, and just the TV's setup menu on screen.

    I thought maybe it was the recent discs I had been watching, but it seems more and more like a recent "problem" that has developed with the set somehow.

    crossing my fingers for tomorrow...

    -cris
     
  10. Christopher a

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    Let me know how it works out. Looking at those pictures now, it doesn't look like convergence. I'd probably have to see it in person to tell you for sure.

    Chris
     
  11. Max Leung

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    Hmmm...it may still be possible that cable interference is a culprit, even though you see it with menu items. When the TV superimposes a menu item onto the screen, it may still be using the signal timing from the video output of the DVD player. If this timing is corrupt, it will affect your menu item display. At least it seems that way on some analog TVs...for example, if you change the channel to a nonexistant station (the white static), you'll notice that the TV text is corrupt - like when you press MUTE and the MUTE text becomes corrupt and wavy.

    Of course, this likely doesn't happen to all TVs - I doubt it is a problem on digital TVs and projectors.

    You got a Grand Wega...so um...that's probably not the problem. Oops. [​IMG]

    My LCD projector would have a similar problem as yours if I don't have the video output timings on my HTPC set just perfectly, however. Hmmm.

    What kind of cables are you using for component? I hope it isn't those yellow/red/white cables - they suck!
     
  12. Mitch Stevens

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    Now that I've just seen the pictures, I can honestly say that even though my set does almost the exact same thing, it's not nearly as bas as that! Those halos are HUGE on my tiny 14" computer monitor....I can't imagine just how big they would look on my 65" Widescreen TV. When I said that I saw the same thing, I do, but the halos are MUCH thinner than the ones you're seeing. I checked both shots on my Grease DVD, and sure enough, it's at the same places as you're seeing, but like I said, they are VERY thin.

    I told you that I thought it might be our DVD players, but now I'm not so sure. I was watching cable TV, and I noticed the EXACT same thing. In fact, the lines were much thicker than normal on cable than they were on my DVD player. They pictures that you displayed, is how my cable looks. I see these halos in all my DVD menus as well.

    I don't know what it could be. I have convergence just about perfect, so I have no clue.
     
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    It's quite simple: You're watching Grease in Fullscreen. Get the WS version, and all will be well [​IMG]
     
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