Who Says Tobacco Companies Arren't Tarketing Their Product At Teens?

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  1. Peter Kline

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    It's difficult to successfully market a product as "uncool". Since the cigarette packs look like flasks, can we assume that they are targeting "teens" who also purchase hard liquor? I was expecting a purple dinosaur on the packet from Peter's description. [​IMG]
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    You know what would be really cool? An H.R. Giger-designed cigarette package! Now THAT would be cool! I'd get one just to show off to people!
     
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    Cigarette companies-the only companies we don't want to advertise or sell any product, but think they shouldn't be illegal-they're too much of our economy.
     
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    Those have a nice NASCAR and WWF style to them, don't they. And who are the biggest fans of both of these sports?? Teenage boys?
     
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    Here, here Mike. At some point, we're going to have to realize that at this point, it's the consumer's responsibilty, and that some people can make their own choices. No one can say they don't realize now that cigarettes can cause cancer.
     
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    Of course, it's also not simply a matter of "letting the smokers kill themselves," since we also have the matter of secondhand smoke effects on others' health. The smoker indeed chose to smoke, knowing full well the potential health risks, and that's fine (it's a free country after all, and what is freedom if not the ability to do something utterly stupid if one chooses?). But the five non-smokers standing nearby didn't choose to inhale tobacco smoke, and to effectively force them to do so involuntarily is wrong.
    If smokers all walked around in sealed helmets, then maybe we could reduce the issue to one of simple personal choice. But they don't, so the non-smoking rest of society still has a vested interest in whether or not they choose to smoke.
     
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    There is no real evidence linking "second-hand" smoke to cancer.

    Unless you're constantly exposed to a lot of smoke for a long time (like living with a smoker or working in a bar for many years), second-hand smoke is no more harmful than industrial air pollution and car exhaust.
     
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    Maybe I should be more scared of second hand smoke, but those poor bastards standing outside in the freezing cold getting their nicotine fixes just don't look scary enough anymore.

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    I'm all for big tobacco reimbursing the government for medical costs that the states spend on treating smoking related incidents. However, I think the notion that consumers can sue tobacco companies for damages is ridiculous. It was their choice. No one put a gun to their head. Accept some responsibility.
     
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    Personally i think the only reason smoking is legal is as someone said: 'it's such a big part of the economy'. It's not an issue of personal freedom because if it was then things like marijuana and lsd would also be legal. Tobacco companies represent a fairly large source of income for the government and consequently smoking will not become illegal despite it's health risks to both smokers and those around smokers.

    I also don't know how a product can be marketed to adults and not marketed to teenagers merely by it's packaging. The Winstons S-2's are shiny, so are we to believe that only adults, or only teenagers for that matter, are attracted to shiny objects?

    O, and a plain white box with cigarettes marked on the side would not sell as well because of competition. Tobacco industry marketing schemes like making shiny cigarettes are not designed to convince people to smoke, they're designed to convince people to choose their cigarettes over the box of cigarettes sitting next to them on the counter.......

    just my $.02
     
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    The cancer issue aside, how about the many asthmatics walking around, as well as the many COPD sufferers (emphysema and/or chronic bronchitis)? Granted, the vast majority of those COPD'ers got that way as a result of their own long years of smoking, but for the contingent among them that managed to quit to preserve what little lung function they still have, is that secondhand smoke doing them (or their ravaged lungs) any favors?
     
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