who makes the best decoders??

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  1. Ben Hanrahan

    Ben Hanrahan Stunt Coordinator

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    Any of you have opinions as to who makes the best DD/DTS decoders? Also, do you know who incorporates certain decoders in their gear? I am looking for a dvd player with a built in decoder, but I want it to be top notch, and although the rp-82 meets all my needs otherwise, I've only read negatives about it's dd/dts decoder. The Denon 1600 has a built in decoder, does anyone know if it's the same as the Panny, or even the Yamaha for that matter?

    Thanks,

    Ben

    PS So far in receivers I quite like the decoders that are in HK's and Rotel gear, while I really dislike anything Yamaha...any suggestions?
     
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    If you use the receiver's DAC's then it shouldn't matter what's in the DVD player.
     
  3. Ben Hanrahan

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    Good point.

    But the thing is I can trade up my receiver in for a Rotel RB-985 and a Rotel pre amp. The pre amp has a 6 channel input but no processor, which is exactly what I want. Now I need to find the dvd player with the best processor, so if any of you know of a player with a particularly good audio section, let me know.

    Ben
     
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    Until early last year I was in the same boat using a 5.1 ready system with external decoders. Unfortunately, high quality DD/DTS decoders don't appear to be a real priority to the manufacturers. FWIW I think my Technics DVD-A10 (Precursor to the ubiquitous 91) sounds better in the 5.1 ins for dd/dts than my Sony DVP-NS500V SACD/DVD player. Both sound pretty good, I wouldn't have any complaints about wither if I was stuck with them. It's tough to get good information on this subject.
     
  5. Michael Reuben

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    While there may be an exception or two out there, you probably won't find top-notch DD/DTS decoding in a DVD player. Manufacturers include it as a convenience for people who don't yet have an external decoder. Anyone with a demanding ear will probably spring for a DD/DTS-capable receiver or pre/pro; so there's no incentive for a player manufacturer to increase its costs by investing heavily in the decoder circuitry.

    As for your initial question, I'm still very partial to Lexicon processors.

    M.
     
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    Is it possible that HK receivers have Lexicon processors? I believe they're part of the same company...anyone?
     
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    HK bought Lexicon some years back, which is why you'll find versions of Lexicon's proprietary Logic7 in some HK receivers. But AFAIK, Lexicon still operates independently; so I doubt the actual circuitry is the same. Lex has its own approach to design, and they have never made a receiver.

    M.
     
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  9. Ben Hanrahan

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    From what I've observed, there seems to be something with using analogue outs ang getting better sound. Perhaps it's the fact that no re-clocking has to occur to the digital stream, I'm not sure but I think this is the way I want to go.
     
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    Thanks for reminding me, Phil. I always forget about DVD-A. And you're right -- if any player's going to have good decoding circuitry, it's a top-notch DVD-A machine.

    M.
     

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