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A Few Words About While we wait for A few words about...™ The Rodgers & Hammerstein Collection -- in Blu-ray

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Robert Harris, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. Jon Baker

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    I wonder why mine still says pre-order. Did anyone else request free shipping?

    ...and for those of you who receive yours today please let us know what is there as far as extras.
     
  2. Garysb

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    I have Amazon Prime which includes 2 day free shipping. My order also says preorder. However if you click on the tracking button it says it is being prepared to be shipped. Still says estimated delivery by 8 PM on Tuesday.
     
  3. Brian Kidd

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    Came home from a doctor's appointment to find a UPS envelope sitting on my doorstep. Going through each disc now. I'll update this post with a list of the extras as I go. So far, all supplements are standard definition. The only one of the bunch I own is Sound of Music, so I'm not able to compare the extras to previous releases.

    State Fair

    Commentary by Richard Barrios and Tom Briggs
    Sing-Along
    Music Machine (Jump straight to musical numbers.)
    From Page to Screen to Stage: State Fair
    Theatrical Trailer
    Still Galleries

    Oklahoma (Todd-AO)

    Film Restoration (Menu pop-up letting you know the film is 1080i due to the 30fps frame rate.)
    Commentary by Shirley Jones and Nick Redman
    Sing-Along
    Music Machine
    Cinemascope vs. Todd-AO (12:06)
    The Miracle of Todd-AO (11:41)
    The March of Todd-AO (17:00)
    Vintage Stage Excerpts
    "Oh What a Beautiful Mornin'" performed by Gordon MacCrae
    "People Will Say We're in Love" performed by Gordon MacCrae and Florence Henderson
    Still Galleries
    Theatrical Teaser
    Theatrical Trailer

    Oklahoma (Cinemascope)

    Commentary by Ted Chapin and Hugh Fordin
    Sing-Along
    Music Machine

    Carousel

    Commentary by Shirley Jones and Nick Redman
    Isolated Score
    Sing-Along
    Music Machine
    Liliom (1934) (1:57:00)
    Turns on the Carousel (22:36)
    Vintage Stage Excerpt "You're a Queer One, Julie Jordan" and "If I Loved You" performed by Jan Clayton and John Raitt
    Additional Songs
    "You're a Queer One, Julie Jordan" performed by Barbara Ruick and Shirley Jones
    "Blow High, Blow Low" performed by Cameron Mitchell and Chorus
    Movietone News: Carousel Opens at N.Y. and Hollywood in Cinemascope 55
    Theatrical Trailer
    Still Galleries


    The King & I

    Commentary by Richard Barrios and Michael Portantiere
    Composer's Isolated Score
    Sing-Along
    Music Machine
    Something Wonderful: The Story of The King & I (21:43)
    The Kings of Broadway (10:42)
    The King of the Big Screen (5:04)
    The King & I Stage Version (17:07)
    The King and I Royal Archives (2:24)
    Anna and the King TV Pilot (includes commentary by Samantha Eggar) (26:04)
    Vintage Stage Excerpts: "Getting to Know You" and "A Puzzelment" performed by Patricia Morison and Yul Brynner
    Additional Songs: "Shall I Tell You What I Think of You" performed by Anna
    Restoring Cinemascope 55 (7:07)
    Movietone News (A bunch. Too many to list right now.)
    Trailers
    Still Galleries


    South Pacific

    Appears to just be the same discs as previously-released.

    The Sound of Music

    Here's where the set falls down. It's simply Disc One from the previous release. If you have that, hold on to Disc Two. If you don't, you're missing a lot.

    There you go! I'm happy to take a look and answer any questions that folks may have. I'm off all day today and am at your disposal for the next few hours.
     
  4. Mike Frezon

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    Thanks, Brian.

    Sounds like you're all set up for a fun afternoon! :D
     
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  5. Brian Kidd

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    Watching the Todd-AO Oklahoma right now. It's gorgeous. Clean, sharp, colorful, and with appropriate grain. I'm interested to hear what Mr. Harris has to say once he gets his copy.
     
  6. bryan4999

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    So South Pacific got two discs but Sound of Music just got one? I am thrilled about this release but that is a big omission, especially at that list price.
     
  7. Jake Lipson

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    Mine shipped!

    I wonder why Fox didn't just include the second disc of The Sound of Music. It can't add that much to the price to repress a disc that is already available. I will keep the original, but it would have been nice to be able to unload it. Oh well.
     
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    I thought early on in this thread someone mentioned that a "fake" 1080i flag is sent to the player to trick it into thinking it's an interlace signal, but that it was actually 1080p. According to the menu pop-up on this disc that Brian referenced, I'm not sure that is the case. Is it truly an interlaced presentation, and if so, is there any downside to doing that? Apologies if this is a dumb question...just trying to understand how Fox is handling this whole Todd-AO thing on Blu-ray.
     
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    I use prime after a long discussion on a thread with Ron E several years ago. I usually get deliveries day before or day of release. Not sure if that makes a difference.
     
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    Nice to hear about the isolated scores for Carousel and King and I. Sorry it is not available for all films in the set.
     
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    Could the interlacing just be converting from pure 30fps to 29.97? That would mean an interlaced frame every 30 seconds or so. Not a heck of a lot.
     
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    I have Amazon Prime but my delivery date is May 2-6 and it's still "preparing for shipment." I'm not eligible for 2-day shipping because it's going to my PO Box. However, most titles reach my PO Box only one day after release date. I'm still hoping that I might see something on Wednesday, but I suspect I might have to wait until the weekend.
     
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    My package hit my local post office at 5:31am this morning. Depending on when my carrier starts sorting his route, it's looking possible that I'll receive my copy today. Mail usually arrives between 10am and 3pm (never consistent).

    From the press release photos, it seemed pretty obvious there would only be one 'The Sound of Music' disc. My plan was to figure a way to move the 2nd disc from the original release to the set and then give my 'The Sound of Music' disc (from the first release) to my daughter.

    Mark
     
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    My player shows the Todd-AO disc at 29.97fps frame rate and my TV confirms 1080i. Honestly, it still looks just lovely to my eyes.
     
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    I'm with you on that and also move the second disc of STATE FAIR with the 62 version in to the package too
     
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    Excellent! Thanks!
     
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    I have seen the other version in DVD.
    Is the Todd-AO the best version of this film?
     
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    Well, I know a certain young man on HTF who will be VERY happy to hear that!!
     
  19. Brian Kidd

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    As far as image and sound quality? Yes. It's an unusual situation in that, since the film was essentially shot twice, there are subtle differences in performances throughout the film. I don't know that either version is better than the other, film-wise. You should definitely see the Todd-AO version if you haven't, though. It was the one that likely mattered more to the filmmakers as it was the "prestige" version.
     
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    Just went through the set.

    Some thoughts (some controversial).
    State Fair - looks and sounds good.
    Oklahoma Todd AO What a massive improvement
    Only odd thing is that beginning with the dvd era, alltransfers inlduing both new ones here, get the opening of Act Two wrong. It is supposed to be day for night. Not completely night but dusk, including the carriage charging along a train. the train has its bright front light on, and the passage car is completely lit inside. Now every dvd transfer has it aa a straight day scen. Looks almost like high noon from the shadows.

    Carousel, looks like its transferred a bit dark.
    King and I - not sure what to make of this. Sarting with the scene where Anna is unpacking her clothes and sings Hello,Young Lovers, it looks as if it has been dipped in blue.
    The music only track has the songs minus vocals, except for We Kiss in a Shadow which has the vocals up till Moreno enters and it sounds like Ritas voice, BEFORE she got duebbed in the film.
    South Pacific - just the old blu set - everything is there.
    Sound of music, same old Blu ray which I do not loke because -
    A. the sound is not as good as it should be
    B. The color is wrong. Both Julie Andrews and some of the kids had their hair died blonde for this film -- but it never looks blonde, looks more like dark red through the entire film.
     

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