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A Few Words About While we wait for A few words about...™ Lawrence of Arabia -- in 4k/UHD Blu-ray

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Robert Harris, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. Worth

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    That and the fact that the average filmgoer isn't going to notice a difference - 2K holds up pretty well even on an IMAX screen.
     
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    Makes sense. I do wonder why Black Panther was done 4K and the only one. But it does make sense especially for making the release dates.
     
  3. OliverK

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    We can be VERY grateful for the occasional title like Black Panther as obviously not too many people care that much about 4k DCP's on either the viewer or the studio side.
     
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    Michel_Hafner Screenwriter

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    Good real 4K UHDs: The Sony UHDs from 35mm negatives. Lucy, Mortal Engines, Greatest Showman, soon LOA.
     
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    Couldn't say. Whatever time and money was wasted on 4k certainly could have been put to better use fixing the lousy CGI and the terrible green-screen in that movie. The only Marvel movie with end-to-end 4k is the fakiest looking one of the whole bunch.
     
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    Very true.
     
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    That is the effect of the Vibranium ;) ...
     
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    There is more variation in quality in Black Panther and I would think this is one of the reasons that 4k is rarely used with CGI heavy movies - the difference between real 4k and less than perfect CGI gets more obvious than in cases where everything gets taken down to 2k. That being said state of the art 2k CGI can certainly look better than for example that fight on the rails in Black Panther.
     
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    Which is very slim pickings for people who appreciate higher resolution.
     
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    Honestly, the real problem with Black Panther is that, despite spending $200 million on it, they couldn't be bothered to shoot a single second of footage outside of a soundstage. All those outdoor scenes in green-screened "Africa" were embarrassing.
     
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    It is a bit hard for me to follow your line of argument here as there were location shots in North America, South America, Africa and Asia.

    I will leave it at that as even though Black Panther is not a perfect film I am still happy that it has been done in 4k, showing that 4k is possible even with a CGI-heavy superhero movie.
     
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    With actors in them? No, just background plates for the green-screen.
     
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    Donald Sutherland talks about Nicolas Roeg´s work on Lawrence:

    "Look at Omar Sharif on a camel, coming from the other end of the desert towards the camera. That’s Nic. Look at the Sahara’s empty foreground, and suddenly the smokestacks of a steamer crossing from left to right along the unseen Suez canal. That’s Nic."

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    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/dec/16/observer-obituaries-2018-nicolas-roeg-remembered-by-donald-sutherland

    Would you like to comment further on the above quote, Mr. Harris?
     
  14. Robert Harris

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    Not comfortably. I would presume these would have been considered second unit shots, but I’d not go there without consulting the camera reports. I do know that Freddie selected the mirage lens at Panavision. Heavy bugger...
     
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    They did shoot a lot in Atlanta and created a set for the battle scenes so not all of it was green screen.
     
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    Has Lawrence of Arabia been released in 8K yet?
     
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    Just a reminder, Lawrence on the big screen September 1 and 4.
     
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    Lawrence in 70mm at the Castro in SF on Aug 10 and Aug 11. It is pretty much an annual event in Aug or Sept.
     
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    What do you mean by released? So far we have not even seen a 4k UHD release so I would settle for that for the meantime :)
     
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    Remember the new 70mm/Datasat print is a 4K digital out , I do not think it looks as good as the 1989 version but the 5.1 audio
    is very good.
     
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