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Which technology - DLP or D-ILA? Finally saw them both in person. (1 Viewer)

Chad_R

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Well, I've now come full circle (again).

Originally, I was looking at the Sammy DLP's then I got turned on to the JVC D-ILA, and now I can't make a decision.

I'm looking at the JVC 52" D-ILA and the Samsung 56" DLP (HLP I believe). I think the only thing that really makes me shy away from the DLP is the rainbow effect/eye strain issue and what most people consider poor SD content. The D-ILA has the not so great blacks, but otherwise seems to do a very good job (once tuned and provided you didn't get a bad batch).

I'm mostly concerned at how standard definition looks between the two (have yet to see SD on either in stores). I say this because for my eyes, DVD and HD content seems to look stunning on either and the fact that I don't have an HD feed yet (and probably won't for a few months after I take delivery of whatever I get).

It also appears that the relative price difference between the two is only ~200ish so that's pretty much a non-issue.

I've read that the JVC does SD pretty well with all the digital processing turned off. I'm pretty certain I'd watch SD in the typical 4:3 format rather than the stretch. I've also read that the DLP's do pretty well with a SD feed.

My SD feed is D* satellite. I'm going to be sitting ~12-13 feet back from the TV.

Friday I saw the JVC and it won hands down over the DLP, however Sunday the DLP won my eyes but they were two different stores I viewed the TV's so signal probably had something to do with it.

Sorry for the ramble, but I need some help in my decision.

What would you do if it were your money?

TIA
 

Tim Jin

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Rainbow issue is a big problem with DLP's. I would not get a DLP because of rainbow. It's not safe for your health. In 10 years or so, people will have vision problems because of it.

I really like the new JVC. If I had the money or was upgrading, I would get a D-ILA set.

For me, I would not get a DLP because I get bad headaches because of the rainbow effect.

I much not screw up my vision because of a TV.
 

Mort Corey

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Take in a video tape and have them hook up the set with a VCR and then you'll have a pretty good idea as to how SD TV is going to look. 'Course, depending on the store, you may have to provide your own VCR and cables.

Mort
 

Max Leung

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There is no evidence whatsoever that DLP "damages your vision". None. Zip.

With that said, some people experience headaches and excessive eyestrain and others can see the rainbows (sometimes both, sometimes only one or the other). However, the vast majority do not see them. Nobody gets lasting damaged vision or any other health problems when not exposed to DLP. Also, keep in mind that people get sick watching regular TVs too...

Since most (all) DLP RPTVs have a 5x speed color wheel, rainbows are not a significant issue for over 90% of the population.

I am a rainbow-sensitive person, but I own a Benq 8700+ DLP front projector. I hardly ever see any rainbows because of its fast color wheel and the modest brightness. In fact, I can see CRT "rainbows" on CRT RPTVs - the green phosphors on a CRT set decay slower than the other ones, giving a brief greenish afterglow in moving images. :)
 

Leo Kerr

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I think it's a little strong to say that a single-chip DLP display will cause actual harm.

That said, the rainbows are d****d annoying!

I've actually wondered a bit why I didn't see rainbows on CRT FPTVs... I can see a 'shimmer' on a standard speed CRT projector, and I can see the frame-strobing if something moves in front of the screen, but I haven't really seen the green after-glow... or the image 'tearing' if you move during the frame (after all, the projector is only really illuminating one spot at a time..)

Maybe I'll have to go and look sometime...

Leo Kerr
 

Tim Jin

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From my personal view, I would not buy a DLP RPTV because I get headaches. For some reason, it effects my brain in a negative way. 90% don't see it, but I'm in the 10% that does.

My suggestion is to go in a showroom, and watch a DLP display, like you would do at your home, and if you can't see the rainbow or if it doesn't bother you, by all means, go for it.

DLP's produce a great picture and its something to consider.
 

Max Leung

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I had headaches and eyestrain when I had an NEC LT240K DLP projector. Ouch, it hurt! It only had a 2x color wheel though and it is 50% brighter than most of the HT projectors, 1500 lumens compared to the typical 1000 lumens or lower.

I've never seen a D-ILA TV set or projector. JVC has rolled over and played dead in the digital display market - I doubt I'll ever see one in my lifetime, the dealer network here is so poor!
 

Jaimin

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Hey,

I was making a similar choice recently, but instead looking between the JVC and the Panny DLP. You should determine yourself about rainbows by just watching the TV for a good half hour in a dark setting, and try hard to look for rainbows, if you don't see them don't base your decision on rainbows, cause its a non factor. I guess you should make sure that anyone else using the TV feels the same. One thing you may also want to consider, especially cause you think the TV's are similar in pic quality, are the connections the TV's provides, the Samsungs have both an HDMI and a DVI connection which can be useful. I chose the Panny DLP because of price and I couldn't be happier. SD is only bad when you compare it to HD, otherwise its tolerable, and the good thing with both your choices is that you can watch SD in 4:3 without worrying about burn in. Good luck in your decision.

Jaimin
 

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