Which of the following plagued with "Chroma Bug"?

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  1. David Susilo

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    a. Toshiba 1800 (low end, interlaced)
    b. Panasonic DMR-E50 (low-end DVD recorder, progressive)
    c. Pioneer 363 (low end, interlaced)

    or is it all of the above?
     
  2. Stephen Hopkins

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    B. is Chroma Bug Free. I have a brand new one for sale for $400 if you're interested.

    Thanks [​IMG]
     
  3. Brajesh Upadhyay

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    The DMR-E50 isn't chroma-bug free like the RP82 & CP72.
     
  4. Stephen Hopkins

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    All progressive-scan panasonic players are chroma-bug free because they all use the same mpeg-decoder.
     
  5. David Susilo

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    Stephen, I beg to differ. The current players from Panasonic (I don't know about the recorders) are ridden with chroma-bug.
     
  6. Stephen Hopkins

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    No panasonic player since the RP32 3 model years ago has has chroma bug when used in progressive mode on a porgressive scan tv... the old RP32, S35, S55, and F65 all have chroma problems when used in interlaced mode, but NOT in progressive (the RP32 had no progressive mode, it was interlaced only).
     
  7. Don Munsil

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    Stephen,

    I don't know of any Panasonic RP32. RP was their prefix for progressive models, and the 32 wasn't progressive. The RV32 has no chroma bug. No Panasonic models have had chroma bug up until this year's models, which changed to a new line of MPEG decoders that have chroma bug.

    There is no player that has chroma bug in interlaced, but not in progressive. There are a handful of players that have chroma bug that are masked by the deinterlacer in progressive mode, but none of the Panasonics are in this group.

    The S35, S55, and F65 are current models, and do have chroma bug.

    The DMR-E50 does have chroma bug.

    Trust me on this - I wrote the first article explaining chroma bug, and I've checked the players myself.

    As for the original poster's question - all of them have chroma bug.

    Don
     
  8. David Susilo

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    Thank you, Don! [​IMG]
     
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    But the Pioneer probably has it worse than the others. [​IMG]

    REgards
     
  10. Brajesh Upadhyay

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    Thankfully the new Pioneer DV-563A is chroma-bug free (at least I couldn't see it using the "Toy Story" & "Monsters Inc." DVDs).
     
  11. David Susilo

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    It's there albeit extreeeeeeemely minimal. You'll have to basically stick your eyes to the screen and try very very hard to find it.

    but it's there.
     
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    Don,

    Do any of the Panasonic recorders lack the chroma bug? Or do they all have it?
     
  13. Don Munsil

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    All the current models of Panasonic DVD recorder use the new MPEG decoder that has the bug, to the best of my knowledge. I've only personally seen two of the recent models, but it would be very strange for them all not to share a common design. Their first model or two from the previous model year may not have used that decoder, but I don't know.

    Don
     

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