Which is the better reciever?

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  1. Tan_U

    Tan_U Stunt Coordinator

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    Harmon Kardon AVR110:
    Warranty:Months
    Labor/Parts 24/24
    Front Power (Watts) 40 x 2
    Center Power (Watts) 40 x 1
    Surround Power (Watts) 40 x 2
    Bandwidth @ Rated Power 20Hz - 20kHz
    THD% at Rated Power .07
    Dolby® Pro Logic YES
    Dolby® Pro Logic II NO
    DTS YES
    Dolby® Digital YES
    THX NO
    # DSP Modes N/A
    # Digital Inputs 6
    # S Video Inputs 1
    Subwoofer Output YES
    # AM/FM Tuner Presets 30
    Remote Type A/V Universal
    Video Display of Receiver Audio Settings NO
    Brand HARMAN KARDON
    Other Features VMAx® Virtual Surround, MP3 Decoding, DTS, Universal Remote
    Or the Pioneer Elite VSX-21:
    Dolby Digital and DTS Decoding (Motorola DSP56362)
    Cinema Re-EQ
    DSP with 6 Simulated Sound Fields
    4 Mode Advanced Theater --Musical --Drama --Action --5-D Theater
    Midnight Mode
    Digital Noise Reduction
    Crystal 20-bit A/D and D/A Converters
    Power
    Stereo: 80 watts per channel (20 Hz to 20 kHz, @ 8 ohm, 0.09% THD)
    Surround: 80W x 5 (20 Hz to 20kHz, @ 8 ohm, .09% THD)
    Convenience Features
    6 Channel Input
    Pre-Programmed Heads-Up A/V Remote Control : -DSS Control --CDFile Control--VCR Control --TV Control
    Pre-Amp Output (All Channels)
    4 Digital Inputs and 1 Digital Output
    4 Audio and 5 Video Inputs
    S-Video Switching
    Banana Speaker Terminals (All Channels)
    Pioneer SR Input and Output for System Integration
    Front A/V Input
    Electronic Bass and Treble Controls
    Loudness Curve
    Direct Switch
    FL Dimmer (3 Steps)
    1 Rear Panel AC Accessory Outlet
    Tuner Features
    AM/FM Stereo Tuner
    Random Presets for 30 AM/FM Stations
    3 Speed Tuning
     
  2. Gregg_C

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    The H/K AVR110 is a great receiver. If you want DPL II, use the VMax mode, it accomplishes the same thing and sounds great. It has plenty of s-video inputs, and has 3 digital outputs. The power rating is modest; it fills my large room with plenty of sound, crystal clear with no hiss. The DTS mode is the best I've heard.
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  3. Nicholas A. Gallegos

    Nicholas A. Gallegos Stunt Coordinator

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    Ooops!!
    Double post.
    [Edited last by Nicholas A. Gallegos on September 22, 2001 at 01:52 PM]
     
  4. Nicholas A. Gallegos

    Nicholas A. Gallegos Stunt Coordinator

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    quote: If you want DPL II, use the VMax mode, it accomplishes the same thing and sounds great.[/quote]
    I think you are talking about Logic7 (also included on H/K's current models). VMax actually achieves somewhat the opposite of what Logic7 does. It uses an algorithm to simulate a surround effect using two physical speakers (similar to QSound, SRS, Spatializer, etc.).
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    [Edited last by Nicholas A. Gallegos on September 22, 2001 at 01:52 PM]
     
  5. Marc H

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    I like the HK.
    I really like the sound of the 192kHz DA converters.
     
  6. Gregg_C

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    Yes, sorry, Logic7, which makes it sound very similar to DPL II.
    Gregg
     
  7. Chuck C

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  8. MarkO

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    Id go with the HK. I just love thier amps. Cant beat em for the price IMO.
     
  9. Tony Genovese

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    When will the 20 series HK receivers be available?
     
  10. Tony Genovese

    Tony Genovese Supporting Actor

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    Just spoke to Onecall and tney said that the 20 series HK receivers were "at least two months away".
     
  11. Brad Newton

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    How does it compare to the Denon 3802 or 4802?
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  12. Richard Travale

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    This probably doesn't help, BUT, Don't you find the newer H/K's ugly as hell? Just my 2cents worth.
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  13. Tan_U

    Tan_U Stunt Coordinator

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    Chuck C, don't you mean AVR110 not AVR120?
    And Ive heard a lot of raving for the Onkyo witch is about the same price, I'm almost sold on the HK but I wanna know what you guys think of the Onkyo compared to the HK?
     
  14. MarkO

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    I wouldent call them ugly. There kinda retro 70s style in a way. I do like the older 25 35 45 series better as far as looks, but to me its the sound that really matters.
     
  15. Chuck C

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    Tan_U...no way baby, all new 20 series, but like Tony G. said, they're a ways off [​IMG]
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