What's the best 'active servo' sub on the market for the money?

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  1. KyleT

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    I need a recommendation on something that will sound as natural as possible. Accuracy and 'tightness' of bass is more important than being able to rattle the walls.

    Also... any reasons why I should consider a non active-servo sub besides price?

    I'd like to keep the price under 2k.
     
  2. PaulT

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    I haven't heard the Velodyne Servo, but I do own a Paradigm Servo-15. Since I listen to 50/50 Music/Movies I was also looking for a Sub that was 'tight'. I have been extremely happy with my purchase in that regard. It also kicks some serious butt with SPL levels on movies should I decide to crank it up.

    Here is the Velodyne 12 review on Secrets - I have to believe the price has come down since 1998:
    http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...dynehgs12.html

    The Velodyne 18 is a giant but above your price point:
    http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...subwoofer.html

    Here are some reviews on the Paradigm site:
    http://www.paradigm.com/Website/Site...rvoSeries.html

    I'm not sure where you are located but I paid 1300CDN (975US) plus tax for my Servo-15. I believe price in the US would 'probably' be around 1200 out the door, YMMV.
     
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    Paul hits the nail on the head, and in fact, I don't know of any other servo subs other than Paradigm and Velodyne. (I had an HGS-10, then a 12 for a while.)

    Price is a big deal though. I went from the HGS-12 to a Vandersteen V2W. I get the equivalent of a 15" sub (3x8"), but at a cheaper price than for the HGS-12. (Vandersteen uses Feed Forward Error Correction as their technological solution to distortion at high outputs and low freqs.)

    Don't "discount" [​IMG] SVS and Hsu Research though. They just use genuine long throw drivers to more or less accomplish the same thing.

    James Loudspeaker also has a new tech solution to distortion, but again, not cheap. Getting very good reviews too.
     
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    How about a ContraBass (Real Servo....) Mark Seaton can fill
    you in with the details.. I forget the name of the company
    that he works for that makes the Contra but Mark posts here
    on the forum.
     
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    Servodrive is the company and I was just gonna mention that.


    They are made for COMMERICAL applications though.


    I can vouch for the Servo15, it just kicks ass.
     
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    I can vouch for the Servo-15 too [​IMG]
     
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    As far as I can tell, all that servo subs do is limit distortion at high volume levels. As the overall sound gets louder the sub stays at the same level above a given point. If you intend to listen at ear-bleed levels then a servo would probably be the right choice. OTOH if good clean low bass at normal levels is what you want, you could save some money with a non-servo model. Just my two cents.

    Greg
     
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    Kyle- No, I think you are on the right track. [​IMG] Just that servo's are only *one* way to get good clean, deep, bass output.
     
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    Kyle:

    The Velodyne HGS Mk.II-10" goes for $1,899. I can vouch for the Mk.I. Beautiful, tight bass! Look, Kevin Brown hinted at the James Speakers Sobwoofer. It is the latest rage (for those in the know, that is) as a truly musical and potent sub. The smallesr model goes for $1,795, I believe. Try to audition it, if you can (I haven't), if not the Velo will make you more than happy.

    JaimeB
     
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  15. Brett DiMichele

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    I think the idea setup would be a folded bass horn in your
    foundation running 12 18" Pro Subs on a couple killowatts
    of power [​IMG]

    I agree though a properly built sub using quality components
    throughout won't need Servo Technology to sound fantastic.
    (Not the type of Servo that Velo or Yamaha uses anyway..
    Servo-Drive is a completely different story!)
     
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    I'm with Jack on this one. I think NASCAR is a good analogy when thinking of servo controlled subs. Imagine putting a 1000 horsepower motor in a car and then adding a restrictor plate to limit the car's full potential.

    Or in terms that Brett can understand, buying a Corvette and not driving it over 55MPH! [​IMG]
     
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    Hey I don't drive over 55 sorry I meant 155 [​IMG]
     
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  20. Brian Bunge

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    Jack,

    I'd imagine that would be quite possible too. It doesn't matter much what the quality of the driver is as long as the servo keeps it in check.
     

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